9 Year Old Girl Kills Gun Range Instructor

They'd have to prove negligence, and since they have it on video, pretty much not going to happen.

I suppose it'd be a bad time for the business to sue the girls' family for loss of income, since she kinda took out their instructor.

I still question whether it was actually fully auto, it seems a local paper put that out, and everyone is running with it.

For starters: it's a severe waste of ammo.

It's a gun range, all shots are a waste of ammo.

And posting on Forums is a severe waste of time. Yet here we are.

that depends if you're shooting for the heck of it
or actually trying to improve your aim

I learned that the terrorists won. If we can't teach our children to use the weapons of war or shoot an Uzi gangsta style, what can we teach them? The instructor was clearly in league with Obama and the Democrats to slander freedom in the name of security. He's probably not even dead.

I'm disgusted to be an American. We didn't dump tea into the sea for this.

waste =/= severe waste :P

I was wondering the same, but I know there are those ranges that have all the special permitting & such then have you pay extra money to be able to try out various fully auto weapons. the one I heard of was outside of vegas.

Gotta disagree there. You dont just hand someone a weapon without knowing anything. Its a lot like car, its a machine/tool that used incorrectly can kill. And in order to operate a car legally, you have to have a written/mental knowledge base before you are allowed to set foot behind a wheel, and even then it is supervised until its proven that you know what you are doing and can handle it. Learning to fire a weapon for the first time should be the same way. You need you base knowledge first. Only after that do you pick one up, and for a child, supervised! And much like you dont let a teens first driving experience be a tractor trailer, you dont give a 9yo a full auto uzi.


Changing policy for age wont fix anything. (as is usually the case with ban/restriction arguments) The instructor wasn't killed because the girl was 9. He was killed because the child was not physically able to handle the weapon. While there is a generalized correlation in age/growth it is by no means absolute. Ive seen many an adults 20-30-40-50 years old that are unable to physically handle weapons. The same exact thing could have happened with anyone of any age that could not handle the weapon. Restricting age only give the illusion of security and safety.

As for the ranges liability, that one is highly debatable. And im not sure that's states legalities on it. The instructor should have damn well known not to give a kid that kind of weapon. On the other hand it seemed to be within the rules for him to do so. And the parents apparently had no problem with this. He might be an instructor, but the parents have the final say as to what the kid can and cant use. So that can be argued a number of ways. Personally, id have told them the kid aint allowed to use that kind of weapon. Id rather risk my job then someones life.


Because one is responsible for all? I can say our right shall not be infringed... doesn't make me responsible for two idiotic parents that did something incredibly dangerous. You said yourself, "personal responsibility" you cant have personal responsibility count for everyone... its personal.
Now as much as i wish we could outlaw stupidity, it sadly cant happen.


One of the smartest things said on here. You never joke around with lethal weapons, and you never aim them at a life in jest.


Being in that kind of a war zone and witnessing the horrors of the nazis first hand, i can understand his standpoint. Tho i do find it a bit ironic. Seeing as the nazi actually did ban civilians from owning guns. And as they came to power/were in power, prevented german civilians from being able to defend themselves against their government. (Or course if your grandfathers argument was strictly targeting full autos, and not weapons in general, then that thought would be nullified.)

To buck the trend of denying it and arguing semantics, to use one of KN's favorite phrases, I'm probably just projecting.

Not in the greatest of moods in the real world.

Gaza Strip says hi

Link to video, no gore, it cuts off before the gun fully turns on him

Well I'll be, it does seem like it was in "full auto."

idk, the only "rule" I could think of possibly enforcing is making all rapid fire weapons that have a severe chance of recoil being mounted, but it would be costly to implement.

Also: boring.

Waste of ammo:

Needs more 3000 rounds a minute.

Fixed that for you, my friend.

The question is, am I referring to firing the gun, or Kari?

Both !

Nothing says America more then an attractive woman with a machine gun.

Obligatory:

Envious of her husband.
Still looking hot at 40.
Smart as ***.
And an atheist too!

Mythbusters must be on constant rerun in Hell lol.

I wanted to see her blow his brains out tho

Though she is a vegetarian and extremely squeemish about it.

Also, Tori, Grant, and Kari will not be back after this season. =(

Yeah they got fired ;;


Also, Tory nearly getting arrested for building a pipe bomb at 19. See? Young people do dumb ***, alot.

Nothing wrong with building a pipe bomb, as long as you don't use it on people, except according to you know: the atf/fbi, and probably various other alphabet agencies.

edit: never have been a big fan of that show, they use hack science and skip a lot of variables, and only come up with excuses to shoot and or blow ***up (which in that part I guess is ok, but the rest annoying the hell out of me).

I wonder if it was one of the parents who filmed it? I can understand why they would turn the footage over to the police, but how in the Hell was this video plastered all over the internet? Wouldn't the parents have to approve of this being released to media outlets?

This entire situation is simply FUBAR.

Who posted this picture of Natenn firing a gun on ffxiah!

The whole appeal of the show was basically Snopes with explosives. It's edutainment, designed to get some basic science across while keeping you interested by blowing ***up.

If you want real science, turn the TV off and take a college course. I think Mythbusters is one of the few shows left on TV that hasn't become a drooling pile of horsecocks and if it got some kids interested in real science more power to them.

I mean, how many people cite Scotty for getting into engineering?