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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-10-19 13:42:10
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This "fix" doesn't fix anything at all as far as the current problems with Voidwatch go.

Reducing the length of the battles? Oooooh yeah that'll be fun when Pil is in a bitchy mood and keeps spamming that shield.

Upping drop rate? Won't help much when the same person keeps getting the same ra/ex item.

Keep drop rates as they are. Give us the option to add to treasure pool, or make the really rare ra/ex stuff a direct drop from the nm, or at the very least do something to stop the same players getting the same damn item over and over.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 13:43:49
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Add to Treasure Pool is a great idea.
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By Quiznor 2011-10-19 13:44:28
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Asura.Tamoa said: »
This "fix" doesn't fix anything at all as far as the current problems with Voidwatch go.

Reducing the length of the battles? Oooooh yeah that'll be fun when Pil is in a bitchy mood and keeps spamming that shield.

Upping drop rate? Won't help much when the same person keeps getting the same ra/ex item.

Keep drop rates as they are. Give us the option to add to treasure pool, or make the really rare ra/ex stuff a direct drop from the nm, or at the very least do something to stop the same players getting the same damn item over and over.

I understood reducing the length of the battle as making it easier,mobs with less def/hp/DT-%,etc

NMs with barriers and whatnot have them weakened/reduced or something
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-10-19 13:47:46
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In my experiences with voidwatch, its not the actual difficulty of the mob that is determining the length of the battle but simply trying to cap out different procs (mainly red and blue). I think Voidwatch was a great way to get every job involved but its seriously lame when its a very obscure ability of the only class you seemed to have forgotten about, otherwise I really see no issue with the length of battles.
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By Ragnarok.Alcarin 2011-10-19 13:50:05
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Ragnarok.Alcarin said: »
1 Year ago: Abyssea Only, Now: Voidwatch Only.. bored. they should focus to add more things.. not just VOIDWATCH..

They are... have you been living under a rock? TOAU adjustments are coming at some point and Neo Nyzul etc. They are updating the game very slowly because of FFXIV.
They just try to update old contents..
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-10-19 13:55:31
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Cerberus.Sevvy said: »
its not the actual difficulty of the mob that is determining the length of the battle but simply trying to cap out different procs

This.

The nms really don't need to be made easier to kill. The length of the battles don't need to be shortened. What's needed is for the treasure distribution system to be fixed. Oh and it sure as hell wouldn't hurt if they upped the drop rate on heavy metal plates...
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 14:06:49
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Or make it 150 Heavy Metal Plates. That's still double the last stage's required items, with equivocal difficulty and price.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-19 14:08:58
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SE dev team are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. This is proof of that.
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-19 14:09:12
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I get out of class to see this thread on the front page with the
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And you call me mean Kalilla, getting my hopes up and stuff :(
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By Cerberus.Sevvy 2011-10-19 14:11:26
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I'll agree that the 1500 is steep but remember relics and mythics when they came out? The price was also steep. It'll be interesting to see what S-E does about this because the drop rates of the plates are bad but you can continually fight the mobs as long as you have the voidstones.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-19 14:13:15
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-19 11:31:40
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I get out of class to see this thread on the front page with the
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And you call me mean Kalilla, getting my hopes up and stuff :(
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I'M SORRY...

Okay not really, I thought it was kinda funny.

*evil laugh*
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-10-19 14:14:01
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I'd like to see Neo ZNMs(It's sort of the system Abyssea had for NMs but bleh) I had so much fun doing those back in the day.
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By Asura.Wyattdoc 2011-10-19 14:15:06
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Adding to treasure pool is a dumb idea then you just bring cheats and ninja lotters into the mix when they sat there watching you work your *** off for a spell. But i do agree the distrubution of treasure does need to be fixed. as well as the drop rate
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-19 14:17:27
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SE said:
It was decided that there will not be any fundamental changes to the drop system to make it possible to add item drops to the treasure pool, as the team does not believe this is not where the main crux of the problem lies.

That's the only issue with the entire *** thing. The only reason they can possibly have for not changing it is to make vw have a forced time sink to drag out content by keeping this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE drop system.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 14:17:43
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Ninja lotting and "cheats" only applies when stuff isn't FL. If it's in Treasure Pool, in an event like VW, it's silly for it to not be FL.
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By Asura.Wyattdoc 2011-10-19 14:20:48
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I'd rather take my chances getting what im looking for than to watch someone else out lot me for it so they can sell it for gil
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 14:24:37
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How can you sell something that's rare/ex? Why would someone Add to Treasure Pool a gil drop? Are you seriously that pissed off when someone outlots you, fair and square?
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-19 14:25:09
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Siren.Kalilla said: »
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-19 11:31:40
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I get out of class to see this thread on the front page with the
"-Denied"
cut off

And you call me mean Kalilla, getting my hopes up and stuff :(
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I'M SORRY...

Okay not really, I thought it was kinda funny.

*evil laugh*
Why doesn't my guildwork button work :(
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oh god and it all just exploded
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By Asura.Wyattdoc 2011-10-19 14:27:52
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Ok for starters all the new spells drop out there are not rare ex for us blm's paying 1mil or more for a damn spell is crazy and if you added the treasure to pool then everyone if they needed it or not would lot on them. and for those that dont need would sell them
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-19 14:27:56
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Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
Why doesn't my guildwork button work :(
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Because.......... the icon is actually this:



and well, I was lazy and just used the top half as a background for the cell and made the width 20 and height 20 >.>
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-19 14:28:26
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Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
oh god and it all just exploded
That's what she said?
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2011-10-19 14:28:32
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I'd rather see 10 people beat me on a lot for an item I want than to see someone get it randomly who didn't want it, a mule to get it, or someone who can't use it get it. At least if I get beat 10 times trying to get an item that item is still going to people who will enjoy it and wanted it in the first place.
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2011-10-19 14:29:41
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Why would you add a 1-2+ mil item to the treasure pool in the first place?
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-10-19 14:29:42
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Asura.Wyattdoc said: »
Adding to treasure pool is a dumb idea then you just bring cheats and ninja lotters into the mix when they sat there watching you work your *** off for a spell. But i do agree the distrubution of treasure does need to be fixed. as well as the drop rate

Not really a problem unless you are forced to do voidwatch with shout groups. And is watching a clueless gimp in your shout group getting the ra/ex drop under the current system any better than said clueless gimp outlotting you on the ra/ex drop?

Lakshmi.Rearden said: »
I'd rather see 10 people beat me on a lot for an item I want than to see someone get it randomly who didn't want it, a mule to get it, or someone who can't use it get it. At least if I get beat 10 times trying to get an item that item is still going to people who will enjoy it and wanted it in the first place.

This.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 14:29:50
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I think you worded yourself poorly before. "Adding to Treasure Pool" is more along the lines of the Treasure Casket function in Abyssea. "Adding a treasure pool" is what you were thinking of. Yes, adding a treasure pool is silly. Adding to Treasure Pool, in my opinion, would be a safer direction.
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-19 14:30:42
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Zilart is too bot-dominated. Give us something you actually work for.

CoP is too hard. Give us something that's easy to keep us occupied forever.

ToAU is too much busywork. Give us something new.

WoTG is too stagnant. Give us something new.

Abyssea is too easy. Give us something harder.

Voidwatch is too hard. Give us something easier.

What?! More Voidwatch?! Its like you guys don't know what we want!!! Why aren't you listening to us?!
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-19 14:34:45
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Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-19 11:31:40
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I get out of class to see this thread on the front page with the
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And you call me mean Kalilla, getting my hopes up and stuff :(
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By Asura.Wyattdoc 2011-10-19 14:36:24
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So if im understanding you right what your saying is if the reward you recieve is not something your looking for then at it to pool for others ? am i understanding you right
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2011-10-19 14:37:34
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Correct.
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-10-19 14:38:59
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Asura.Wyattdoc said: »
So if im understanding you right what your saying is if the reward you recieve is not something your looking for then at it to pool for others ? am i understanding you right

That is what the majority of us want, yes. The option to add something from your personal reward chest to treasure pool. Would be especially nice in those cases where you get a ra/ex item you already have. Or a ra/ex item for jobs you don't have leveled and have no intention of leveling/playing.
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