this has to be one of the first things ive agreed with tht ya have said elanabelle lol
the loot system is ompleate crap and random <ive DCd at pop of Quilin and got back on 10 sec before the chest depopped and got a heavy metal pouch. but stayed on for 4 more pops and got total crap like wood and ores that didnt even noc over 5k total lol. so dont do crap and i got a pouch, work my *** off and get crap>
so yea they need a point system or something for em. so much crap i want from em and cant even make gil off of it to buy em. 1/60ish runs have i ever gotten anything worth selling -,-
[Dev] Voidwatch: Response To Feedback
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[Dev] Voidwatch: Response to Feedback
Yes, that's the complaint that LOTS of people have about Voidwatch's loot system, Moonlight.
You're definitely not alone. One's chance at receiving the super-rare loot from Voidwatch should be based on SOMETHING more than just total random luck. Right now, that's all that's required: show up, use a Voidstone, doesn't matter if you're highly-involved in the battle or just standing still picking your nose ... you get the same (pathetically low) chance to acquire the highly-desirable loot. That's W-E-A-K. I say everyone should just continue to complain about this regularly and frequently to S-E on the Official Forums. That way, even if they choose to ignore us, there will be PLENTY of proof of our dissatisfaction (plus simple suggestions on how to revamp and improve the Voidwatch loot distribution system!) right there staring S-E in the face. If they have a massive amount of legitimate complaints, all about the same identified fixable problem ... and they still choose to ignore the issue, then they'll have no one to blame but themselves when the rate of players quitting FFXI rises and their revenues start dropping off.
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Update on topic today:
So in other words.. we'r going to be starting the fight with capped lights, which isn't really capped meaning we still get logs? @_@
Zeyphr said: » So in other words.. we'r going to be starting the fight with capped lights, which isn't really capped meaning we still get logs? @_@ We'll get MORE logs now.
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I'm glad the Developers are keeping their ears to the ground regarding player feedback on Voidwatch ... but it still seems like they're listening, but with a LOT of earwax built-up in their ear canals.
They need to address the loot distribution system for Voidwatch. All these other adjustments are nice ... sort of, maybe ... but they don't improve the aspect of Voidwatch that is the most in-need of revamping. Bismarck.Elanabelle said: » I'm glad the Developers are keeping their ears to the ground regarding player feedback on Voidwatch ... but it still seems like they're listening, but with a LOT of earwax built-up in their ear canals. They need to address the loot distribution system for Voidwatch. All these other adjustments are nice ... sort of, maybe ... but they don't improve the aspect of Voidwatch that is the most in-need of revamping. 1 thing at a time is the motto SE follows. Fix the easiest/pointless stuff first, then tackle the big task at hand! But seriously, there starting to listen which is a good sign. /NINJA is making a comeback?
Otherwise I would explain the adjustment how "AoE abilities will deal the 95% dmg of your max HP" dmg reduced by xgear xsets etc? The light adjustment is great for lowman or low tier ***that dies fast.
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so you can walk in there now and not worry about proc? So all of the dead jobs that were just used to proc can go back to being dead? lol
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Good lord do you mean I will actually be able to tank Botolus Rex and Ig-allima without the support of fanatics spam in hopes they I don't get smacked for 2,000?
Yes, dead jobs stay dead unless the fight requires procs to survive.
Shiva.Viciousss said: » so you can walk in there now and not worry about proc? So all of the dead jobs that were just used to proc can go back to being dead? lol Seems to be that getting proc can still gives certain advantage, just not 100% needed if you want the items. So proc *** jobs is still nice to have to make fights easier, but if you can't find proc *** jobs then just zerg it to death you still gonna get red light capped. Quote: A specific adjustment we have planned is to set blue and red alignment at their maximum values at the beginning of the battle. HAHAHAHHAHAHAH. Way to NOT address the real issue.
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said: » I'm glad the Developers are keeping their ears to the ground regarding player feedback on Voidwatch ... but it still seems like they're listening, but with a LOT of earwax built-up in their ear canals. They need to address the loot distribution system for Voidwatch. All these other adjustments are nice ... sort of, maybe ... but they don't improve the aspect of Voidwatch that is the most in-need of revamping. Not sure if like..
This is throwing VW more to the casual side? They haven't explained what they really want by having proc'ing weakness as part of battle strategy? Are they going to make it less useful than currently what is it now (stunned for 5,20,30 secs) or make it more useful (I can't really imagine that). If they are to make it less useful, then I don't know how they can call the system has more strategical value. If they are to make it more useful, then I don't know what can be the more advantageous situation it will bring. Quote: ※With regard to battle balance, I would like to note that we do not assume that every player has the best armor, such as Aegis and Ochain, or Relic/Mythic/Empyrean Weapons. It is definitely advantageous to have the best gear, but we are making adjustments so that even players without the best gear are able to creatively finish all content. Given that my last three attempts to join random VW alliances have been declined since I did not have an Ukonvasara as WAR or an Ochain as PLD I like this comment best of all.
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VW is already easy with what it is, given 18 players taking the responsibility proc'ing what they could. I'm really baffled at people putting empy/relic weapon requirement in order to join a group.
Yay can't wait to see perle bst up in this event.
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So, I think an immediate drop in cells will be happening due to max values. Back to blinkers.
Also, it wouldn't be hard to fix the loot issue. Leave the drop rate as it is as a baseline for each NM, then every kill you get, the rare item drop rate for you goes up 1-2%. Once you get the item, the server tags your toon and you can no longer be elegible for that drop again, even if you drop it. Yea, some people will still get it on the first kill, but everyone will get within a reasonable time frame if they stay focused.
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from what i can tell void is just like any other BCM thing.
you got mostly random crap from them and if u got the good item it was pure luck isn't this just like void so whats all the crying about Shiva.Bigslank said: » from what i can tell void is just like any other BCM thing. you got mostly random crap from them and if u got the good item it was pure luck isn't this just like void so whats all the crying about You don't get out much, eh? They're not the same, or similar, at all. BCNM type battles have "groups" of loot, and an item may or may not drop from that loot "group" each victory, depending on the parameters S-E sets for that "group". For example, S-E might program a BCNM battle with three loot "groups". Upon victory, opening the Chest/Casket/etc, the player/party/alliance receives one 100% drop item from "group A"; it's the same item every time. They also receive a second 100% drop item from "group B", but from this group, the 100% drop could be any one of four distinct items. Lastly, the group has a 50% chance of receiving another specific item for "group C". If the 50%-rate item doesn't load for that particular loot pool, then the player/party/alliance doesn't get anything from "group C", and thus the Treasure Pool loads only two items. Even though only two items show up, the three loot "groups" are still there; just in this case, "group C" produced Null. Voidwatch, as it is now, is entirely different. Every single player gets a individualized Treasure pile, which almost without fail (assuming "full red/blue lights") loads 4-5 garbage items automatically ... and one slot capable of producing one amazing item, or any of one of about a dozen or twenty mediocre items. Now that sounds ok and all ... but the problem lies in the assumed fact that S-E caps the number of amazing items that can be dropped during each victory. THAT is what seriously blows. In other words, if every participant in a Voidwatch victory had the same equal/level reasonable chance to acquire the "amazing item", then in theory (however unlikely) it would be POSSIBLE for all 18 Members of the Alliance to get the item during the same kill. We know that's not how it works, however. Rather, each person has to ... First roll the opportunity to get something other than garbage in his/her first Treasure slot, then ... Roll the opportunity to get the amazing item, rather than one of the mediocre items that usually occupy the first Treasure slot, if you were lucky enough to not just get garbage, and then ... It seems there's a check in S-E's system to ensure that even if multiple people in an alliance happen to beat those difficult odds (with luck) ... the "amazing item" can only drop to 1 (maybe 2?) people in the alliance anyways. I'd take my chances getting the "drop" from a BCNM any day over my chances of getting the "drop" from a Voidwatch pool. Other than the Kraken Club, BCNM drop rate on "the drop" is generally 10-30%. In Voidwatch, you have like a 1% chance, maybe. It blows. Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: » Yay can't wait to see perle bst up in this event. I already see perle bsts in VW. They're just not wearing full perle anymore because they went 1/1 on toci's harness after asking what cells are and stating that they don't have any.
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I think this will likely be the new adjustment to lights.
1. start battle with capped light e.g. capped 525% red and slowly droping each time you proc. 2. Cell still useful for final calculation, so you get 150% lights to play with on proc before getting the bite on your final 525% calculation. 3. the downside to this is that we have to use blue light cell too ><. 4. Player will no longer zerg during a stagger because blitz will decrease your light value. 5. if the above is true, then we'll end up trigger the mob just for refilling temp items and spam fanatic to zerg again when it is out of stagger mode. I think what you meant to say was, if the above is true, then *** that because that's the stupidest idea in history.
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Chyula said: » I think this will likely be the new adjustment to lights. 1. start battle with capped light e.g. capped 525% red and slowly droping each time you proc. 2. Cell still useful for final calculation, so you get 150% lights to play with on proc before getting the bite on your final 525% calculation. 3. the downside to this is that we have to use blue light cell too ><. 4. Player will no longer zerg during a stagger because blitz will decrease your light value. 5. if the above is true, then we'll end up trigger the mob just for refilling temp items and spam fanatic to zerg again when it is out of stagger mode. lol no.
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Valefor.Prothescar said: » I think what you meant to say was, if the above is true, then *** that because that's the stupidest idea in history. yes I know its dumb, but this SE and ppl been complaining about VW being too easy because of fanatic spam and proc lock until the mob is dead. This way we'll not keep it locked and it'll automatically add more challenge to the fight, also with lights decreasing on each proc we'll have to rely less on temp item and develope better strategy to approach each fight. Now the million dollar question is will SE fix the god damn kill at will AOE spam *** or decrease the weakness timer on a real tanks(pld and nin), maybe lowering the weakness timer on pld and nin will increasing the desire to have these jobs tank again. /shrug. Lol are you serious? PDT MDT set... aoe shouldnt be 1 shotting you....
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