Would like to see some sea's influence on VW personally.
An item from that NM as a possible loot from chests, not super common but a little less, like 1 in an alliance with a 15% chance.
Whoever pops can trade that item and instead of the normal NM a more difficult version or a copy of that NM (two of them) spawns and the rewards would be increased.
I think that would be fun and crazy for some things, as it stands now most of them you can defeat in under 15 minutes.
[Dev] Voidwatch: Response To Feedback
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[Dev] Voidwatch: Response to Feedback
Bahamut.Serj said: » You can't say HNMs were great because of a skill barrier. The same people who got face-rolled by HNMs are the same people who die in abyssea and can't complete VW. I'd argue about half the people who got face-rolled by HNMs are able to get by in Abyssea/VW due to Atma(cite), Temp Items, and other buff crutches. Sylph.Gredival said: » Siren.Kalilla said: » Sylph.Gredival said: » Sylph.Kimble said: » Why? Zerging is still a strat. It's a strat that removes skill barriers by removing many elements of play. It just promotes an unbalanced party setup and strategy in favor of overpowering the monsters stats and abilities. Really dedicated melee that zerg perfected their techniques and equipment for just doing that. I just think it's unbalanced and like the more traditional party setup myself. It's an innately less complicated strategy that requires much less skill. It's the exact reason why Voidwatch is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, only temp items make every melee good in Zerg not just well geared melees Time is money and making money is a skill. Valefor.Prothescar said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » One week to get a stupid powerful set of armor, one week to get a stupid powerful weapon, one week to mop up and get miscellaneous drops such as Epona's Ring and Zelus Tiara. Abyssea. If it took you two months to make an empyrean, then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're rather below average.
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So what you're saying is, you likely made it under an incredibly casual setting, which you are assuming a majority of the FFXI playerbase also subscribes to. There is no other explanation as to why it took you 2 months to build a weapon that it takes the most perle warrior you've ever seen a week to finish.
That's very cute and endearing, "I earned it and appreciate it", however that does not change the fact that 2 months is a below average timeframe for the completion of an Empyrean weapon. The difference between 2 months and 1 week isn't elite vs. non-elite. It's the difference between being dedicated to a goal and "*** it, I'll come back for it later".
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Sylph.Gredival said: » Bahamut.Serj said: » You can't say HNMs were great because of a skill barrier. The same people who got face-rolled by HNMs are the same people who die in abyssea and can't complete VW. I'd argue about half the people who got face-rolled by HNMs are able to get by in Abyssea/VW due to Atma(cite), Temp Items, and other buff crutches. It seems to me you have an incredibly high opinion of your self and probably not much better than the people you mock.
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Sylph.Kimble said: » It seems to me you have an incredibly high opinion of your self and probably not much better than the people you mock. No it's just that I can look around me and see a relatively high amount of the population with full AF3 and a near majority with at least an Empyrean. Nostalgia glasses aside, there's no way Adaberks were that common, much less relics. Oh and according to parses, in almost every shout group I've been in I'm at least 5-6% better than the people I mock. We see Pink Coruscantis and Pink Kannagis. You ever see a Ridill without a Haidate? How about an Amano without a haste setup?
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I remember when SAM had to work their *** off to get their (second best weapon, but still) Haguns. :C Now you just put aside a few hours for a week or two and have a Masamune, or a few hours for a couple of days and have a Keito no tachi.
Screw all of this ***. What I really want from voidwatch is random AF3 seals in my chest. That would make my day, SE.
DO IT. I DARE YOU! MAKE. MY. DAY.
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Valefor.Prothescar said: » I remember when SAM had to work their *** off to get their (second best weapon, but still) Haguns. :C Now you just put aside a few hours for a week or two and have a Masamune, or a few hours for a couple of days and have a Keito no tachi. Im hoping the hagun comment was sarcasm, lol. I've news for you brosef, your dreams have come true. I got about 7 seals that I don't need at all from some Hahava and Voidwrought runs earlier. :D\
He did a :C face, so I assumed it was.
Sylph.Gredival said: » You ever see a Ridill without a Haidate? How about an Amano without a haste setup? Plenty of times. Was doing a Pil run while posting. I still managed to outparse this Masamune by 6% while I spent the majority of the run alt-tabbed posting here.
While the original post was somewhat sarcastic, I am now intrigued. Since when was getting a Hagun easy? Gil wasn't always flowing from every orifice.
Yeah, ive seen lots of people like that, lol. Not everyone that had "rare" gear was smart, good players. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Also, parse on VW doesnt really impress me when its skewed based on who has to proc what. Valefor.Prothescar said: » So what you're saying is, you likely made it under an incredibly casual setting, which you are assuming a majority of the FFXI playerbase also subscribes to. There is no other explanation as to why it took you 2 months to build a weapon that it takes the most perle warrior you've ever seen a week to finish. That's very cute and endearing, "I earned it and appreciate it", however that does not change the fact that 2 months is a below average timeframe for the completion of an Empyrean weapon. The difference between 2 months and 1 week isn't elite vs. non-elite. It's the difference between being dedicated to a goal and "*** it, I'll come back for it later".
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just got my heka 1/17 , (with cells)
 i guess it's my lucky day, herald gaiters drop, full sandworm drop, and now this, on top of that i just got a toci like 2 days ago voidwatch it's so random lol
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Valefor.Prothescar said: » Sylph.Kimble said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » I remember when SAM had to work their *** off to get their (second best weapon, but still) Haguns. :C Now you just put aside a few hours for a week or two and have a Masamune, or a few hours for a couple of days and have a Keito no tachi. Im hoping the hagun comment was sarcasm, lol. Valefor.Prothescar said: » While the original post was somewhat sarcastic, I am now intrigued. Since when was getting a Hagun easy? Gil wasn't always flowing from every orifice. Noooo, Latifah post that somewhere else ; ;
Cerberus.Tikal said: » So 1 week was the average time frame to get an Emp right after 90 cap was released? Wow, it must only take hours these days. I lived in Tahrongi for that time. Probably one of the most stressful things I've done. My Mandau wasn't even that bad as far as stress goes. Very first Masamune and Caladbolg in my LS, both done shortly after the 85 stage with WS were released and it was confirmed that the new WS's were worthwhile, were both finished within four days together. Well not finished. We had the Lanterns and Gems. Sylph.Kimble said: » Also, parse on VW doesnt really impress me when its skewed based on who has to proc what. It's not the fact I won, it's the fact I won while spending more time posting here. That's how stupid this content is. Put on your buffs, use invincibility drink and spam WS. Don't have to pay attention past that. Whatever you thought of 75 content in an absolute perspective, relatively there is no way Voidwatch isn't easier. Sylph.Kimble said: » Yeah, ive seen lots of people like that, lol. Not everyone that had "rare" gear was smart, good players. Sorry to burst your bubble. And I already stated it wasn't perfect, but the correlation between skill and gear was relatively much stronger in 75 than today. Because today's content gives every retard all the crutches necessary to succeed. Cerberus.Tikal said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » So what you're saying is, you likely made it under an incredibly casual setting, which you are assuming a majority of the FFXI playerbase also subscribes to. There is no other explanation as to why it took you 2 months to build a weapon that it takes the most perle warrior you've ever seen a week to finish. That's very cute and endearing, "I earned it and appreciate it", however that does not change the fact that 2 months is a below average timeframe for the completion of an Empyrean weapon. The difference between 2 months and 1 week isn't elite vs. non-elite. It's the difference between being dedicated to a goal and "*** it, I'll come back for it later". Depends, if you play for 12~18 hours a day like a trog you can probably finish a Tahrongi/Attohwa branch weapon in 3 or 4 days based on how many people you have to hold KIs for you to expedite the process. At 90 cap, I'd say a week and a half to two weeks would be an adequate assessment of time it should have taken to build an emp, if that, if working only a couple hours a day. The only difference between 90 and 99 for empyrean weapons is the amount of people you have to coerce into helping you. 2 months for an empyrean weapon is not a decent amount of time. Siren.Kalilla said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » Sylph.Kimble said: » Valefor.Prothescar said: » I remember when SAM had to work their *** off to get their (second best weapon, but still) Haguns. :C Now you just put aside a few hours for a week or two and have a Masamune, or a few hours for a couple of days and have a Keito no tachi. Im hoping the hagun comment was sarcasm, lol. Valefor.Prothescar said: » While the original post was somewhat sarcastic, I am now intrigued. Since when was getting a Hagun easy? Gil wasn't always flowing from every orifice. I solo'd Sheep in Antlion's Clothing on DRG every possible time I could and never saw a Hagun until I'd farmed enough gil to buy it. Edit: And with that amazing bevy of elementary typos, I think it's time to go to bed. Valefor.Prothescar said: » I solo'd Sheep in Antlion's Clothing on DRG every possible time I could and never saw a Hagun until I'd farmed enough gil to buy it. Just all about how lucky you can get sometimes in this game. If I was a SAM back then though I would have done the free fights daily until I finally struck gold instead of spending the gil on it. That's easier said than done of course, and if your luck was bad enough I wouldn't have blamed you for buying it. You'd still be doing that fight every day for a decent amount of time before you got the drop for yourself. If you were soloing that fight on SAM, it would have required preparation and a rather high level of gear and skill to accomplish. If working in a duo or trio, you'd be dealing with splitting the drops.
Even soloing on DRG was a bit of a chore, and I can count on one hand the number of DRG soloists I knew back then that were worth a ***. ... ...wouldn't have* ... :) <3
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Eh, lol
Unless you had a close friend who would come help you clear the fight while letting you keep the GK if it dropped. Also that fight dropped the cloth for blessed gear, which was pretty pricey back then even well after hagun's glory died off up to the point where you could get it from abyssea. I said of twice, so it balances out.
lol Sylph.Gredival said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » It's not the fact I won, it's the fact I won while spending more time posting here. That's how stupid this content is. Put on your buffs, use invincibility drink and spam WS. Don't have to pay attention past that. Whatever you thought of 75 content in an absolute perspective, relatively there is no way Voidwatch isn't easier. Shounds like you just explained most content at 75. Meh, think the most I ever got for Galateia was 2 or 300k. :C But it was a decent consolation prize. Cloud Evokers were worth a couple hundred k too if you knew who to sell to, but they were so rare.
Speaking of, think I have a Monarch's Orb laying around somewhere. Should try to go kill him for some free money since cashmere is still decent. |
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