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U.S. Government Recommends Lower Level of Fluoride
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-05-04 08:34:15
let this sink in read it carefully, contemplate its meaning thoroughly. Fluoride is bad, its Heroine bad its Nuclear waste bad. I am not sure how else to say how something is bad? its federal reserve Bad, its Republicans and Democrats bad, its that bad.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-05-04 08:49:19
I wonder if you ever even took a chemistry class Lordgrim.
Let's start by saying that fluoride is not a thing in itself, the name implies it's a molecule containing fluorine, such as NaF sodium fluoride, this is very important because it determines its chemical properties, how it can be diluted and what it can associate with. Fluorine(F2) is an alogen element of the periodic table. Are alogens toxic? Yes indeed they are, but it's the dose that matter. Know what else is an alogen? Chlorine, and yet your cells need it to function. Without chlorine in your body, a toxic element, you would die!
The important thing here is molarity, that is concentration of a solute per volume. This determines pH of your solution and how much of it will be able to dissociate or tend to equilibrium in reactions.
If our fluorine concentration is low it is in no way dangerous, on the contrary it is beneficial for the body. The concentration allowed by the law is also way under the critical level of dangerousness for the very purpose that even in case of a small mistake it won't make a difference because it'll be still too low to matter.
Know what else contain fluorine btw? Seafood, tea and eggs.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-05-04 08:59:47
I doubt the mods concern themselves with P&R induced spats. You might be wasting your time reporting. They take more of a laissez faire approach to P&R. They might get a muffled chortle out of it. Just saying...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 09:00:44
Quote: The dose cannot be controlled. Once fluoride is put in the water it is impossible to control the dose each individual receives because people drink different amounts of water. Being able to control the dose a patient receives is critical. Some people (e.g., manual laborers, athletes, diabetics, and people with kidney disease) drink substantially more water than others.
let this sink in read it carefully, contemplate its meaning thoroughly. Fluoride is bad, its Heroine bad its Nuclear waste bad. I am not sure how else to say how something is bad? its federal reserve Bad, its Republicans and Democrats bad, its that bad. Do you know how much water you would have to drink in order for a person to be negatively effected by fluoride? A bathtub worth a day.
You know what would happen well before fluoride starts to negatively effect a person? Water poisoning.
But if you really want to prove that too much of an element is bad, why not drink a bathtub full of tap water a day for a month and then report back to us about the ill effects you received. You can even drink fluoride-free water in that bathtub and tell us how much better you are with that water poisoning.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 09:01:49
I doubt the mods concern themselves with P&R induced spats. You might be wasting your time reporting. They take more of a laissez faire approach to P&R. They might get a muffled chortle out of it. Just saying... If anything, they will just lock this thread.
Mostly because of the topic currently being played out, partly because of Candlejack's incessant bickering.
By volkom 2015-05-04 09:02:08
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Quote: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we ever had to face?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 09:12:43
Know what else contain fluorine btw? Seafood, tea and eggs. Might as well ban those too while we are at it.
And ban any foods that uses water itself in it's cooking, because there may be a chance of fluoride being in the food itself.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-04 09:39:02
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Quote: The dose cannot be controlled. Once fluoride is put in the water it is impossible to control the dose each individual receives because people drink different amounts of water. Being able to control the dose a patient receives is critical. Some people (e.g., manual laborers, athletes, diabetics, and people with kidney disease) drink substantially more water than others.
let this sink in read it carefully, contemplate its meaning thoroughly. Fluoride is bad, its Heroine bad its Nuclear waste bad. I am not sure how else to say how something is bad? its federal reserve Bad, its Republicans and Democrats bad, its that bad. Thank you for proving you've made this thread to solely be a continuation of your steaming pile of "truth and justice" ***!
Screenshot and forwarded to a mod. You're gone.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-05-04 09:41:58
Know what else contain fluorine btw? Seafood, tea and eggs. Might as well ban those too while we are at it.
And ban any foods that uses water itself in it's cooking, because there may be a chance of fluoride being in the food itself. We should ban his amazing-cure-all vitamin supplements while we're at it since they cause seriously harmful effects in high dosages, just like flouride.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 10:01:43
Know what else contain fluorine btw? Seafood, tea and eggs. Might as well ban those too while we are at it.
And ban any foods that uses water itself in it's cooking, because there may be a chance of fluoride being in the food itself. We should ban his amazing-cure-all vitamin supplements while we're at it since they cause seriously harmful effects in high dosages, just like flouride.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 10:25:54
Again, you are falling to a slippery slope. Because if the mods ban them for what you are calling for their banning, then they would have to ban pretty much everyone else, you included.
Why? Because I'm sure we all said "GDIAF" once on this website, which is also advocating selfharm and suicide.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-05-04 11:54:46
Quote: The dose cannot be controlled. Once fluoride is put in the water it is impossible to control the dose each individual receives because people drink different amounts of water. Being able to control the dose a patient receives is critical. Some people (e.g., manual laborers, athletes, diabetics, and people with kidney disease) drink substantially more water than others.
let this sink in read it carefully, contemplate its meaning thoroughly. Fluoride is bad, its Heroine bad its Nuclear waste bad. I am not sure how else to say how something is bad? its federal reserve Bad, its Republicans and Democrats bad, its that bad. Damn those female protagonists.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2015-05-04 12:01:51
I doubt the mods concern themselves with P&R induced spats. You might be wasting your time reporting. They take more of a laissez faire approach to P&R. They might get a muffled chortle out of it. Just saying...
Yes, yes, and yes.
If anything, they will just lock this thread.
Mostly because of the topic currently being played out, partly because of Candlejack's incessant bickering.
Yes.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Hey, the flowerheads are advocating selfharm and suicide. That's something for which they should be banned. Not just topicbanned, but an outright "unable to access the site" ban.
If we do that, you'd be the first to go.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-05-04 12:03:28
In b4 the lock.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2015-05-04 12:09:31
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 12:19:12
Then let's make it page 9 so we can lock this ***!
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2015-05-04 12:20:40
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 12:28:31
So, Spurs lost on Saturday because of the fluoride levels in Los Angeles was too low to tie the game at 1 second left of the fourth quarter and caused the defending champs to lose in the first round.
Sad thing is, this makes more sense than the OP....
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2015-05-04 12:30:32
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They might get a muffled chortle out of it. Just saying...
What you just said was correct. Although, it started as a chortle but turned into more of a cackle from what I just read.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 12:31:26
Although, it started as a chortle but turned into more of a cackle from what I just read. You sure it wasn't hysterical laughter?
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2015-05-04 12:33:17
No, it only gets to the hysterical level when I have to layeth the banhammer on someone. Speaking of which, Altimaomega has returned. I'll leave it to you all to find out who it is. :p
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-04 12:34:28
No, it only gets to the hysterical level when I have to layeth the banhammer on someone. Speaking of which, Altimaomega has returned. I'll leave it to you all to find out who it is. :p EpicFantasy.
Or do you mean another account?
U.S. Government Recommends Lower Level of Fluoride in Water
Well i hate to say i told you so that it was bad, but even the Government is having a hard time saying it is. This is a start to removing it completely.
Quote: For the first time in more than 50 years, the federal government has recommended lowering the level of fluoride in drinking water.
Since 1962, the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) suggested that public tap water contain between 0.7 and 1.2 milligrams of fluoride per liter. But on Monday, the department said now it's recommending that the level not exceed 0.7 milligrams per liter (which is the same as 0.7 parts per million, or ppm). The announcement comes as no surprise; the DHHS first proposed making this change in 2011, and most large cities have already lowered their fluoride levels accordingly.
Water utilities add fluoride to the taps of two-thirds of Americans for the purpose of reducing cavities. Higher levels of fluoride have been shown to increase the risk of dental fluorosis, a staining of the teeth. Mild cases lead to white spots, while more severe ones can cause brown stains and mottling. The most recent data shows that 41 percent of American adolescents between the ages of 12 and 15 have some form of fluorosis, a number that continues to rise, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The DHHS said in a statement on Monday that the move should reduce the chance of developing fluorosis while still helping to prevent cavities. When the 0.7 to 1.2 ppm recommendation was first made, there were fewer sources of fluoride.
“While additional sources of fluoride are more widely used than they were in 1962, the need for community water fluoridation still continues,” said Deputy Surgeon General Rear Admiral Dr. Boris Lushniak. “Community water fluoridation continues to reduce tooth decay in children and adults beyond that provided by using only toothpaste and other fluoride-containing products.”
The American Dentistry Association and public health researchers lauded the announcement. But some don’t think it goes far enough.
Fluoridation first began in 1945 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and there is evidence that the practice helped reduce cavities when the mineral wasn’t widely available in toothpastes and rinses, among other things. But there hasn’t been enough research done in recent years to show that it is still necessary, says Dr. Philippe Grandjean, an environmental health researcher and physician at Harvard University.
“We need to revisit those benefits to make sure that the old reports are still valid for the current fluoride exposure situation,” Grandjean says.
He advocates using fluoride topically (e.g. brushing your teeth with toothpaste), as opposed to swallowing it and subjecting all of the body’s organs to the chemical. It became clear around 1999 that fluoride primarily acts topically and needn’t be swallowed to be effective. He also noted that cavity rates have declined at similar rates in countries with and without fluoridation.
More recent research indicates that fluoridation may have unforeseen negative health effects. Studies published this year have suggested a link between fluoridation and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, as well as an underactive thyroid. Scores of studies, mostly done in China, have also shown that high levels of naturally occurring fluoride in water harm brain development and reduce IQ.
“I’d say it’s a reasonable concern that fluoride can affect brain development," Grandjean says. “Lowering the recommended fluoridation level to 0.7 mg per liter is very well-justified. I would in fact recommend that the level be reduced even further.”
Gov't Admits Fluoride Is Bad For You
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