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U.S. Government Recommends Lower Level of Fluoride
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-01 15:12:28
Love how you three love to twist statements around. But whatever.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-05-01 15:27:41
Let's just agree that "conservatives" are rarely interested in "conservatism" when it doesn't come with a fat wad of cash or votes.
Let's suppose, for example, that that's true. Are you going to call out every other political agenda that doesn't act out of true altruism? You can trace money and votes to practically everything politicians do.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-01 15:33:47
Let's just agree that "conservatives" are rarely interested in "conservatism" when it doesn't come with a fat wad of cash or votes.
Let's suppose, for example, that that's true. Are you going to call out every other political agenda that doesn't act out of true altruism? You can trace money and votes to practically everything politicians do. No, only Republicans are evil, Jassik said so!
Democrats/liberals have absolutely no corruption, donations from "green companies" that later received federal loans under a democrat administration (whereas a Republican administration outright refused to grant the loan because their books were crooked as hell) had nothing to do with it! Neither did foreign governments donating to a charity directly overseen by a democrat presidential candidate! Nope, no chances of corruption there!
Let's also not include any local/state democrat events either!
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-05-01 15:41:16
I read the sentence in the context it was given, by reading the sentence before it prior to reading that sentence. First sentence was a broad statement underlying the overall goals of the Republican party. The second sentence stated what is considered top priority when it comes to environmental issues.
I thought you would have figured that out.....
So if an issue affects human health and safety, but is not "properly" balanced with economics? Obviously human health and safety trumps it, because, as it said, that is the top priority.... Liberalism is breaking down society, it's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't devout. Don't worry though after another year and a half of obama rule, there won't be any sand left for them to stick their head in.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-05-01 15:48:50
Love how you three love to twist statements around. But whatever. It's a pretty clear-cut statement, with no twisting around.
Quote: The Republican Party considers conservation to be a conservative value – as long as it is properly balanced with economics.
Does it prove your point, that Republicans care about the environment?
Well, yes and no. They care about it, as long as economic growth, economic development, and private property rights aren't impacted to an "unbalanced" extent.
Which sounds fine and dandy, except when you realize that most environmental considerations or policies are going to hit one or more of those areas pretty hard. Particularly ones that relate to human health or safety.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-05-01 15:52:38
I read the sentence in the context it was given, by reading the sentence before it prior to reading that sentence. First sentence was a broad statement underlying the overall goals of the Republican party. The second sentence stated what is considered top priority when it comes to environmental issues.
I thought you would have figured that out.....
So if an issue affects human health and safety, but is not "properly" balanced with economics? Obviously human health and safety trumps it, because, as it said, that is the top priority.... Liberalism is breaking down society, it's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't devout. Don't worry though after another year and a half of obama rule, there won't be any sand left for them to stick their head in.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-05-01 15:53:15
Let's just agree that "conservatives" are rarely interested in "conservatism" when it doesn't come with a fat wad of cash or votes.
Let's suppose, for example, that that's true. Are you going to call out every other political agenda that doesn't act out of true altruism? You can trace money and votes to practically everything politicians do.
Not at all, my gripe isn't with "conservatives" not being altruistically environmentalist, my issue is with them (or anyone for that matter) claiming to be something they objectively are not. Republicans are not fiscally or environmentally conservative, they are only socially conservative. Democrats aren't socially liberal, let alone progressive. People like Rand Paul claiming to be libertarian, but he only seems to care about religious freedom and legalizing pot.
Ideological monikers have basically no meaning at this point.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-05-01 16:01:43
No, only Republicans are evil, Jassik said so! Isn't this basically what you guys say just switching republicans with democrats?
Where is Rav to cry about the hypocrisy of this post?!?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-05-01 16:09:25
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-03 08:10:40
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Now, can someone please be kind enough to at least lock this thread? Thanks. Again, mods don't lock threads because you say so, or because you don't like the topic or the poster.
What you are asking can and will be used against you at a later date.
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By Bloodrose 2015-05-03 10:46:08
Candlejack, you're a complete *** moron.
He's not once defended Lordgrim the way you seem to believe he has. In fact, had you actually read the PnR section when Lordgrim was regularly posting there, KN was the one most often seen destroying his arguments, telling him he needs to stop with the conspiracy theory *** youtube "truths" from people who barely understand how to breathe.
also, I'm the Canadian Big Foot.
Anyways, All KN is really saying that until Lordgrim has actually done something to warrant being topicbanned by the OP of any PnR thread, he's still got the freedom to post in them as much as you do, as afforded by the owners of the site. They would need to ban his account to stop it, and it really wouldn't be fair since he's not actually done anything against the rules.
But I'm surprised it had to be spelled out for you. Perhaps then, by your own logic, the same should apply to you.
By fonewear 2015-05-03 10:47:39
Who knew a discussion of Fluoride would last six pages... who am I kidding everyone knew this would happen !
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By EpicFantasy 2015-05-03 10:50:05
This is the problem with people nowadays. It is either yes or no, true or false, right or wrong. The world is not black and white.
By taking away Lordgrims ability to post his parroted research you then open the door for more things to be taken away because you just set a precedent.
I know some people have a hard time thinking about the consequences of their actions and rely solely on the feels around here. However, I implore you to think before you start tapping on the ole keyboard.
A one word answer is for people that cannot understand anything else.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »NO EXCEPTIONS.
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By fonewear 2015-05-03 10:51:27
This is the problem with people nowadays. It is either yes or no, true or false, right or wrong. The world is not black and white.
By taking away Lordgrims ability to post his parroted research you then open the door for more things to be taken away because you just set a precedent.
I know some people have a hard time thinking about the consequences of their actions and rely solely on the feels around here. However, I implore you to think before you start tapping on the ole keyboard.
A one word answer is for people that cannot understand anything else.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »NO EXCEPTIONS.
It is true the world is not black and white it is also Hispanic too !
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-05-03 10:51:55
Lordgrim is most likely a troll. But who knows, considering people like Charlo and Ryanx believe him.
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By EpicFantasy 2015-05-03 10:53:25
he's still got the freedom
You should be careful waving that word around. It really upsets some people it seems.
By fonewear 2015-05-03 10:53:54
Lordgrim is most likely a troll. But who knows, considering people like Charlo and Ryanx believe him.
What if I told you we were all trolling each other ! And no one here is serious about anything !
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By EpicFantasy 2015-05-03 10:54:37
This is the problem with people nowadays. It is either yes or no, true or false, right or wrong. The world is not black and white.
By taking away Lordgrims ability to post his parroted research you then open the door for more things to be taken away because you just set a precedent.
I know some people have a hard time thinking about the consequences of their actions and rely solely on the feels around here. However, I implore you to think before you start tapping on the ole keyboard.
A one word answer is for people that cannot understand anything else.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »NO EXCEPTIONS.
It is true the world is not black and white it is also Hispanic too !
Didn't even make it one post away before the racism. I applaud you diligence.
Lordgrim is most likely a troll. But who knows, considering people like Charlo and Ryanx believe him.
What if I told you we were all trolling each other ! And no one here is serious about anything !
Dude.. That was suppose to be a secret!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-05-03 10:55:28
Imma make a new ls and call it MurderWithToothpaste.
By fonewear 2015-05-03 10:55:32
This is the problem with people nowadays. It is either yes or no, true or false, right or wrong. The world is not black and white.
By taking away Lordgrims ability to post his parroted research you then open the door for more things to be taken away because you just set a precedent.
I know some people have a hard time thinking about the consequences of their actions and rely solely on the feels around here. However, I implore you to think before you start tapping on the ole keyboard.
A one word answer is for people that cannot understand anything else.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »NO EXCEPTIONS.
It is true the world is not black and white it is also Hispanic too !
Didn't even make it one post away before the racism. I applaud you diligence.
Racism has inflated the very DNA of my body. I can't escape it ! The doctor told me the only cure is to stop caring !
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By Bloodrose 2015-05-03 11:00:03
It's not diligence, Fone is obviously slacking, because he's usually posting about Feminism and how the man keeps every woman down.
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By Bloodrose 2015-05-03 11:03:38
What if I told you the world was really black and white, and we're just perceiving the shades as colors?
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By EpicFantasy 2015-05-03 11:04:18
It's not diligence, Fone is obviously slacking, because he's usually posting about Feminism and how the man keeps every woman down.
I thought he has been broadening his horizons, my bad.
What if I told you the world was really black and white, and we're just perceiving the shades as colors?
I'd ask for some of the acid you are on.
By Bloodrose 2015-05-03 11:05:14
The horizons have brought him many broads.
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By Bloodrose 2015-05-03 11:06:45
It's not acid, but it's something!
I call it "Color Contrast"!
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By fonewear 2015-05-03 11:07:01
It's not diligence, Fone is obviously slacking, because he's usually posting about Feminism and how the man keeps every woman down.
I thought he has been broadening his horizons, my bad.
What if I told you the world was really black and white, and we're just perceiving the shades as colors?
I'd ask for some of the acid you are on.
Broadening your horizons is a euphemism for dating a fat woman!
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-05-03 20:22:52
i am not trolling anyone or this website. The only jokes i posted were on a joke topic called comedian corner. I care about this community because i spent part of my life since 2004 on this game.
everything i posted has facts to back it up and the people who articulated the videos also have credentials as well. It does take reading comprehension to understand the information i am sharing with you. Because most of your lives you have been receiving information thinking all is good and nothing can go wrong.
U.S. Government Recommends Lower Level of Fluoride. I'm not the only person saying its bad, doctors and dentists scientists and majority of the world also say its bad.
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U.S. Government Recommends Lower Level of Fluoride in Water
Well i hate to say i told you so that it was bad, but even the Government is having a hard time saying it is. This is a start to removing it completely.
Quote: For the first time in more than 50 years, the federal government has recommended lowering the level of fluoride in drinking water.
Since 1962, the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) suggested that public tap water contain between 0.7 and 1.2 milligrams of fluoride per liter. But on Monday, the department said now it's recommending that the level not exceed 0.7 milligrams per liter (which is the same as 0.7 parts per million, or ppm). The announcement comes as no surprise; the DHHS first proposed making this change in 2011, and most large cities have already lowered their fluoride levels accordingly.
Water utilities add fluoride to the taps of two-thirds of Americans for the purpose of reducing cavities. Higher levels of fluoride have been shown to increase the risk of dental fluorosis, a staining of the teeth. Mild cases lead to white spots, while more severe ones can cause brown stains and mottling. The most recent data shows that 41 percent of American adolescents between the ages of 12 and 15 have some form of fluorosis, a number that continues to rise, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The DHHS said in a statement on Monday that the move should reduce the chance of developing fluorosis while still helping to prevent cavities. When the 0.7 to 1.2 ppm recommendation was first made, there were fewer sources of fluoride.
“While additional sources of fluoride are more widely used than they were in 1962, the need for community water fluoridation still continues,” said Deputy Surgeon General Rear Admiral Dr. Boris Lushniak. “Community water fluoridation continues to reduce tooth decay in children and adults beyond that provided by using only toothpaste and other fluoride-containing products.”
The American Dentistry Association and public health researchers lauded the announcement. But some don’t think it goes far enough.
Fluoridation first began in 1945 in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and there is evidence that the practice helped reduce cavities when the mineral wasn’t widely available in toothpastes and rinses, among other things. But there hasn’t been enough research done in recent years to show that it is still necessary, says Dr. Philippe Grandjean, an environmental health researcher and physician at Harvard University.
“We need to revisit those benefits to make sure that the old reports are still valid for the current fluoride exposure situation,” Grandjean says.
He advocates using fluoride topically (e.g. brushing your teeth with toothpaste), as opposed to swallowing it and subjecting all of the body’s organs to the chemical. It became clear around 1999 that fluoride primarily acts topically and needn’t be swallowed to be effective. He also noted that cavity rates have declined at similar rates in countries with and without fluoridation.
More recent research indicates that fluoridation may have unforeseen negative health effects. Studies published this year have suggested a link between fluoridation and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, as well as an underactive thyroid. Scores of studies, mostly done in China, have also shown that high levels of naturally occurring fluoride in water harm brain development and reduce IQ.
“I’d say it’s a reasonable concern that fluoride can affect brain development," Grandjean says. “Lowering the recommended fluoridation level to 0.7 mg per liter is very well-justified. I would in fact recommend that the level be reduced even further.”
Gov't Admits Fluoride Is Bad For You
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