Bush VS. Clinton

You're right about it not being a school, so my mistake there. But you are incorrect about the epicenter of the blast. That was a T-Bridge adjacent to it.

Said bridge can be seen on the left side of this photo:

LGBT rights are following a similar path that civil rights for African-Americans did, I think. It's going to be a process. That doesn't mean you should forget politicians like Obama having wrong (but politically expedient) positions on LGBT rights, but you should acknowledge the fact that he has taken some good steps. I doubt Hillary will take that next step in 2016, which is federally-mandating equal rights regardless of sexual orientation, including marriage. That's still risky for some independents, and parts of the Democratic base are not going to support it either.

Hell, if it's any consolation, 60 years after the Brown v Board of Education ruling, and federal school desegregation at gunpoint, you still have a party in the United States using racism to whip up support from their base. You've got a long fight ahead of you.

My apologizes, I didn't mean to type "directly" but "around"

If I remember correctly, it was intended to explode on the bridge to the right of your picture, but the bomber missed and got it towards the bridge on the left of your picture.

It was the bridge on the left. The Aioi bridge was the target because the T shape of the bridge was easily recognizable in the air.

On a side note: What did you think of all the biological remains in the formaldehyde jars on the second floor, the life sized diorama of the children coming out of the rubble and the shadow of the person permanently flashed onto the slab of concrete?

I don't think I will ever get those visions out of my head after seeing them.

What's worse was, since I was with a class at the time, we had a guest speaker, one of the survivors of the bombing. She was only 5 and lost everything to it. She was luckily on the other side of the mountains when it hit, but she still has scarring on the left side of her body because the radiation was that potent when it hit.

I still have nightmares every now and then from that.

Yeah they sort of stick with you for life. Truly one of the things that is once seen, can never be unseen.

He had a very pro-gay stance when he came to West Hollywood to pocket the money of the affluent gays in the entertainment industry. Hillary charged 50 a ticket Obama 250 lol

giant douche vs. turd sandwich.

Name says it all...

The level of political discourse in this thread is too high.

A great article on why Rand will not be the GOP nominee:


Conservatives Lash Out At Rand Paul Over Foreign Policy

The Huffington Post is just the place I go to get my unbiased news. /sarcasm

Since its tax season, i'm feeling nostalgic for this quote from harry reid about Romney.

“He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” Reid told the Huffington Post in an interview.“

If anything this article shows that Rand is starting to make Democrats nervous.

Randy Rand won't even get past the primaries.

Better put your money on Chris Christie as Bridgegate will be in the rear-view mirror by the time election season gets around. If the Southern conservatives don't cannibalize him with charges of RINO before he can secure the nomination.

Bridgegate was a joke, but I dunno what to think about Chistie even before that came up.

The lesser known and far less liked son of a many time failed primary candidate will not be a viable option for the RNC. I almost hope they run him, maybe another loss will put an end to this radical right shift the party has taken.

Christie has the personality of a guy who won't take *** up in Washington, has some appeal in New Jersey coming off an atrocious Democratic governor, has proven himself able to weather controversy and crisis (stronger than the storm ***), could have cross-appeal with the middle and has been preening himself for 2016. Guy seems like a jerk but he also seems like the most viable Republican in the running.

He's got more appeal than Mitt Romney and isn't so far in batshit territory (Rand Randy, Rubio, Jyndal, Santorum) that he immediately alienates himself from 'Muricans. I can see Christie giving Hillary a fair horserace if he's allowed to be himself and hug the middle hard.

Jeb Bush would probably be a better choice than Chris Christie with his compassionate conservatism, broad hispanic appeal and competence but between being Bush III, being criticized by his own and Americans wanting to run in the opposite direction from anything Bush he's probably DOA.

Everyone else atm is an exercise in getting rolled by Dems again. But feel free to run Rand and get destroyed by the DNC nominee.

Hilary Clinton or another Bush?

That's it.

I'm moving to Canada.

He's also fairly well liked on the left end of the middle for working WITH the other side on a few issues. Really, it's only the far right that won't see him as a candidate, which is a good sign, IMO.

I honestly don't see any of them beating Hilary, but that's my opinion, and I don't even like the woman.

Cristie/Rand or Rand/Christie

Bush is a horrible idea, anyone with a brain knows that.
Same should be said about hillary, but she is all the democrats have it seems..

Edit: Yea I get the jerk vipe from Cristie, dunno if its good jerk or bad jerk though lol

The problem is that the far right has had alot of power in shaping how candidates are presented in the last two cycles. Will this cycle repeat or will the moneyed donors finally push these paragons of insanity to the side because winning is better than being an ideological zealot?

McCain on paper looked like a viable candidate until he was transformed into the old man with Sarah Palin on his ticket and the last primary cycle included:

Herman Cain cribbing Pokemon lyrics and getting owned by a Libya question.
Rick the Holy *** Santorum dropping the n-word during a rally.
Rick the uhh I can't remember which gov't departments Perry.
Michelle the Banshee Bachmann.

Then we got Mitt Romney who could have beaten Obama had he been allowed to stay the course in the center and present himself a pro-business. good guy who would be a fair alternative to a dissapointing first term 'Bam. Then he too was forced to go hard right miring himself in womens issues and other *** that made him an open target for Dems.

The delusions and phony data coming out of the shitmills ultimately leading to an embarrassing defeat.

Um, you don't prove that something is biased by actually writing what was said, verbatim, in an interview.

Now, if the title was:
Is Romney cheating on his taxes?
and this was the only evidence, then that would be evidence of bias (as well as stupidity and lack of journalistic standards/integrity)

The quote could just as easily be part of a segment:
Top democrat slanders presidential candidate!

Of course, that also is based on that quote being in context.

The Democrats have a head runner that instantly attracts many people without having to be buttered up to who she actually is.

The same cannot be said about the scrambling Republicans who have enough inner turmoil between their far-right loonies and the moderates who really have little say anymore. (The Republicans of 30 years ago)

AKA your Rinos.

I'd place Hilary in the middle of the left spectrum, but I'd have to analyze more of her policies to be honest, her history, which to be frank I'm rusty with.

Bush v3 should scare everyone in their right mind, or wrong.

Rand Paul as a VP to Christie seems like a ***idea. I know it gets fundies and the far-right who'd hate the ***out of Christie but there has to be a better choice there.

Not having my KB Toys is reason enough to not vote for Romney.

You got me, it came from the Top democrat slanders presidential candidate article from Huffington post. (sarcasm)

There was nothing phony about his self deportation immigration stance nor his pro Detroit bankruptcy ramblings. His own delusions killed his campaign.

And yet that could been ignored for the larger case of Obama not being effective in term1, bogged down by partisan gridlock. When the average American was presented with a choice of more BAM or this new guy who seems halfway competent I think Obama could have been made that one term president.

Ultimately who gives a ***about saving the auto industry other than people directly linked to it? Self-deportation was red meat designed to further entice the far right and Romneycare could have been used as an argument that this dude wasn't too different than Obama.

Strategy killed the Reps last cycle in a loss that didn't need to happen. Obama was vulnerable as per Republican meddling and their long game turned into a loss where it should have been a win.

America needs to be able to make its own cars, as much as GM is struggling right now in all things the ability to produce automobiles is important.
Self deportation gave Obama 85% of the Latino vote, there is the election. Immigration is still a huge hurdle for the GOP and they don't seem to want to help their candidates out by, I dunno, passing immigration reform and taking it off the table. How much more appealing would Bush 3 be if he didn't have his immigration stance hanging over him.

While our auto industry and Detroit are symbolic to the power of the United States how many people were going to the polls to pull based on that issue alone? You know, short of union types.

The Economy and jobs were the two biggest topics before the GOP decided to drag in more social conservatism that ultimately derailed the message and ruined the Romney campaign. Immigration has large appeal with Hispanics but last cycle was about the economy and thanks to major *** ups Obama was able to roll the GOP.