(Dagger) All Races
DMG:1 Delay: 192
Lvl. 99
Enhancement: Can only strike PC's
Additional Effect: Warp II
Warrior / Thief / Paladin / Dark Knight / Bard / Ranger / Samurai / Ninja / Dragoon / Corsair / Puppetmaster
What Do Want In Prime Weapons?
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What do want in Prime Weapons?
Horn that gives a defensive variant of honor march.
HM is a combination of march, minuet, madrigal New song should be like: Honor Carol: all resist +140, mambo, minne all in 1 Or a debuff Dishonor Lullaby: horde lullaby, horde finale, horde elegy, horde nocturne all in one Samurai Great Katana Area of Attack Weaponskill.
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Leviathan.Nitenichi said: » Samurai Great Katana Area of Attack Weaponskill. SE is trying to figure out how to code completely missing on multiple mobs at the same time. ;)
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Lakshmi.Sahzi said: » (Dagger) All Races DMG:1 Delay: 192 Lvl. 99 Enhancement: Can only strike PC's Additional Effect: Warp II Warrior / Thief / Paladin / Dark Knight / Bard / Ranger / Samurai / Ninja / Dragoon / Corsair / Puppetmaster I am a little upset that Red Mage or Rune Fencer are not on this item
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I'd like for the Prime shield to not replace aegis entirely as an ilvl aegis.
Make another unique shield with an entirely different purpose than Ochain/Aegis. Give it a blunt weaponskill, enfeebling effect on WS or reduce the recast on shield bash with each block while also boosting the damage considerably(maybe based on blocks before using the JA) A shield and instrument that aren't beefed up copies of the existing ones would be great... Briko's idea was nice but imagine an instrument that offers a single song with multiple offensive buffs like Honor March but....for mages or pets! Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us.
I could say "important spells/JAs" in general, they shouldn't be bound to specific items. A rare item that teaches you the spell/JA and that once you've done that you can use even without the item equipped, now that's a different story and a much better compromise if you ask me. Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. I could say "important spells/JAs" in general, they shouldn't be bound to specific items. A rare item that teaches you the spell/JA and that once you've done that you can use even without the item equipped, now that's a different story and a much better compromise if you ask me. Mage weapons should have always given spells instead of weaponskills. If there is a new horn, what niche could it fill that isn't covered by Gjall/Daurd? Unique songs is the avenue they took before and I suspect they'll take agaib
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Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. What's annoying about Honor March being bound to an instrument? It's no different than 4 songs being empyrean bound. You don't have a lot of options for instruments to make them unique and useful. Screw Prime Weapons. Make my Tizona even more powerful.
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I suspect the job availability on each weapon will change little compared to Relics, but some pretty well require change.
Anyone with unconvential thoughts of certain weapons having additional or less jobs on them? Like, THF on a If we go by relics, then RDM is getting a new sword and a new dagger. Or does anyone think they will limit availability and they will get only one? Similar for other jobs. Some changes I imagine are obvious and musts would be like RUN getting the greatsword, PUP getting the H2H, GEO getting the club, BLU getting the sword. How will these weapons be designed with all the jobs we imagine will have access to them? Will the sword be tank utility? Will it be MP focused? Will it be damage focused? Will they just add a bonus on each weapon listed individually for each job on it? Excalibur (Prime) RDM: enhanced this or that PLD: enhanced this or that BLU: enhanced this or that And in doing so the weapon is different for everyone that can use it? Somehow I doubt this option, but with Augment paths, maybe it could go that direction a bit? The possibilities. Hmmm Asura.Briko said: » Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. I could say "important spells/JAs" in general, they shouldn't be bound to specific items. A rare item that teaches you the spell/JA and that once you've done that you can use even without the item equipped, now that's a different story and a much better compromise if you ask me. Mage weapons should have always given spells instead of weaponskills. If there is a new horn, what niche could it fill that isn't covered by Gjall/Daurd? Unique songs is the avenue they took before and I suspect they'll take agaib It's just that that would mean being unable to use Ghorn to powerup that song, being unable to use Daurdabla to apply a fake, being unable to use the Miracle Cheer for 15mins duration and stuff like that. It's just... annoying. I guess it's different for mage offensive/debuff spells, I could see that work, but for the way BRD buff and the way it needs to interact with other items I personally find Marsyas annoying and having a second instrument created with the same logic would only make it worse. Just my two cents of course. But more than that, I think from a game design point of view it's dangerous for game balance to bind important/key spells behind specific items (see twilight cloak for instance) Bahamut.Spookyfish said: » Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. What's annoying about Honor March being bound to an instrument? It's no different than 4 songs being empyrean bound. You don't have a lot of options for instruments to make them unique and useful. Last but not least being unable to benefit from Ghorn's song+4. I lean more towards an aoe debuff song. If we get too many unique buff songs then gjallahorn value plumets
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a new way to play the character the weapon is usable by !!
a thousand examples can be used Asura.Briko said: » Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. I could say "important spells/JAs" in general, they shouldn't be bound to specific items. A rare item that teaches you the spell/JA and that once you've done that you can use even without the item equipped, now that's a different story and a much better compromise if you ask me. Mage weapons should have always given spells instead of weaponskills. If there is a new horn, what niche could it fill that isn't covered by Gjall/Daurd? Unique songs is the avenue they took before and I suspect they'll take agaib Honor march last time for melee, lets get a mage version (fast cast, mab, m.acc)
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IGDC said: » Asura.Briko said: » Asura.Sechs said: » Binding new cool songs behind specific instruments is always quite the annoyance though I've gotta say, as Marsyas clearly demonstrated to all of us. I could say "important spells/JAs" in general, they shouldn't be bound to specific items. A rare item that teaches you the spell/JA and that once you've done that you can use even without the item equipped, now that's a different story and a much better compromise if you ask me. Mage weapons should have always given spells instead of weaponskills. If there is a new horn, what niche could it fill that isn't covered by Gjall/Daurd? Unique songs is the avenue they took before and I suspect they'll take agaib[/ Honor march last time for melee, lets get a mage version (fast cast, mab, m.acc)[/quote] Damn I’d take just a mab song mhomho said: » What would be good is if you put in the effort of taking your relic to 119 r15, you can trade it to skip a requirement of a last stage... Similar to the whole 'of you already have afterglow trade 1 pluton instead of 10000'.
All I want is for the dark claustrum to be BiS. Nothing more
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Kasumuni88 said: » What would be good is if you put in the effort of taking your relic to 119 r15, you can trade it to skip a requirement of a last stage... Similar to the whole 'of you already have afterglow trade 1 pluton instead of 10000'. All I want is for the dark claustrum to be BiS. Nothing more Relic and Prime are not the same and one is not needed to make other, so not sure what you mean. You can guarentee it with enough money... It's only like 3k usd.
They let you buy 2 marbles per character. 16 characters per acount. You have to buy all 000-999 to cover the spread. 999/32=32~ So about 32 copies of the game plus a months subscription (I'm not sure if the 45day lockout rule applies to marbles like it does to other things like AMAN Trove). If it doesn't, then it's about 1k usd to buy all your marbles and then track them on a spread sheet until the winner is announced. If the 45 day lockout applies, it's more like 3k (1k for all the accounts, 1k for first 30 plus your free 15 day trial, and 1k to sub them all to buy marbles). I just don't think it's worth that kind of money. This is coming from someone that enjoys gacha games and regularly throws money at Genshin Impact. That's so much work and so convoluted. Just give me a loot box at that point. Hence: I hope it becomes obtainable through another means (like a stage or final stage of the prime weapon questline). Its much less than that if you do it right. AFAIK you can only pay like 1.5$ for 15 mules if you activate them for like 1 day of whole billing cycle.
Only characters for whom 32 days or more have passed since character creation are eligible to purchase bonanza pearls. So I would say its around 465$ x2 + 13$ for the first time to: 1. Activate 32 acounts with 15 mules each (14.5$ each) now to get the rights to buy marbles. 2. Activate everything again to buy marbles (You need to start billing cycle in a day that will let you activate mules in last billing day and buy marbles then) 3. Only activate one account that won. So ~943$ (or Euro) for the first time and ~478$ (or Euro) for every next time. EDIT: Actually I forgot you need to buy the game :) but you also get 30 days sub with it right? So its not 465$ in point 1. but ~1000$ or ~368$ depends if you buy during discount or not. So its 1478$ or 846$ for the first time. its just stupid that a weapon like yagyu is locked behind a bonanza its like making Idris or Epeo behind a nomad bonanza
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Asura.Jyubeii said: » all that effort and its still a ninja weapon. I'm waiting to see what the Prime Weapons do, but Yagyu's utility (because it works in the offhand) makes it incredibly desirable. If they don't have something comparable on the Prime Weapon, then the Prime Weapons will be moot. Thunderjet said: » its just stupid that a weapon like yagyu is locked behind a bonanza its like making Idris or Epeo behind a nomad bonanza
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