Exenterator

Hey guys!

This is my set atm. Should i be using toci's over loki's and are there any other suggestions?

Tessera > Athos ~ Toci's > Loki's
Stormsoul x 2 > Stormsoul + Epona
Crudelis
Myrmex Mittens
Justiciar's Torque

Where would Kudzu Aketon rank on that list?

thx man. i assume u got that mathed out. is kudzu on par with tessera?

I would guess that Kudzu is between Tess and Athos

Ah yeah, Kudzu is next after Tessera,

What Sylow said but 8 agi set earrings too. And I sometimes use skadi hands over athos.

Assuming you have access to everything. What is the optimal setup from Exenteraton on THF?

Sorry if this has been shown elsewhere but there are so many sets which are clearly not the best - i can't decypher what i'm supposed to wear.

From everything I've gathered

Deci i miss you.

My body options are: Loki/Thaumas only. I've had such bad luck.
Otherwise, i have everything else there.

Due to having only those options; would 5/5 thaumas be better? Also, Attack earring over Auster's earring?

What target/buffs/defense down are you going with for that set, Dec? I'm guessing a low starting pDIF for all that attack to hold up.

Hey Skinner, I may be back when the new expansion comes out.


I haven't done any testing/spreadsheet work myself in a while, but I assume it's dyna mobs with RCB and maybe an acid bolt. The only reason being I wouldn't really use Exenterator outside that situation. I gather most information from Sylow, Austar and others so if I'm misrepresenting them I apologize. I never bothered to learn pDif or other FFXI variables so I can't really answer anything along those lines.

Taking numbers off the spreadsheet, a generic Dynamis DC's defense with an Acid Bolt and at least one Box Step is 435*(1-.175)=359. Attack ratio caps at 2 for us Dagger using Thieves, so one would need 718 attack to cap, or 576 with an RCB up. Ballparking btw, if there were any 'floors' involved, I didn't consider them. Call it 580 to be safe.

Just putting random bits of gear on in my mog house, that'd mean a Dagger and STR merited Hume THF/DNC just about caps Exen attack with a STR Thokcha, Thaumas Head/Legs/Feet, Atheling Mantle, and Crudelis Belt.

My point was that that set may very well be solid without an Acid or on harder-than-Dynamis DC's. However with an Acid and versus Dyna DC's, I'd dispute the Neck, L.ear, R.ear, Body, Hands, and R.ring selection. According to the best understanding of formulas, as applied by the spreadsheet, and if that defense figure is indeed accurate.

Do all the Dynamis DC's even have the same defense? I'd imagine the different families and thus jobs of mobs would come up in their defense totals. In fact, I think that Nightmare Gaylas in Qufim have higher defense than the DC's I frequent in Valkurm. Against them I've had lower all-around numbers. Unfortunately that's eyeballed (or if parsed, I didn't save) so I won't go as far as to make a claim. Maybe I'll go /check them with a bunch of different gear and get an actual defense total on them one day I'm there.

So, thinking about meriting Exenterator and also working on my THF gear a bit because I've neglected it since level 90. Was wondering if anyone could make me a quick tiered list of 3-4 best, second best, third best choices for Exenterator (For every slot including weapons that aren't relic/emp/mythic)?

All slots or what? Bodies are posted above. Not trying to be a jerk, but no reason to post 3-4 belts when Crudelis is 10k on the ah so specific gear slots might be more useful.

Str kila's and thaumas gear is what you need.

Well yea in that case if Crudelis is the best belt for it then no reason to list anything else. But for many other slots there will be gear that cost millions or things from Neo Nyzul/VW that I can't get right at this minute.

What I 'need' is irrelevant. I know that Neo Nyzul gear is awesome, but I've never done it and probably won't get any clears on it any time soon. Just looking for a tiered list so I can quickly work on things that are more reasonable and slowly pick up things that may be from VW or gear that's worth millions.

Then work on it. Otherwise just scope the auction house or use the search feature to find good gear that's cheap.

Yea but sometimes when I go with what I think is good/best I am wrong. For example, it seems like the Crudelis Belt is best by looking back a couple of posts. If I didn't know that I would have went with the Elemental Gorget/Belt combo. Just looking for a little help is all.

Exent doesn't get the full effect of the gorget/belt making it bad. Via it doesn't get the effect on all 4 hits like stardiver. Exent is more attack reliant. It really depends on what you are fighting for how you gear exent....

Well, for dynamis basically. All the talk in the THF forum in that Solo Dynamis thread about getting over 300 coins per run on DC monsters has me very intrigued considering even on good day on BST on EP monsters I struggle to break 200 with very good luck on proc/drops.

Most of the thieves that bring in 300+ are probably using Mandau and Nyzul gear so I would look at them as the exception. With a relatively well geared bst you shouldn't have a problem bringing in 230 pretty easily. Before switching jobs I'd work on your farming in general. But here are some things that could probably be decent in the meantime:

Oce headpiece +1
Justiciar's
Brutal
Ghillie
Loki's
AF3+2 (beyond Athos's and Myrmex I can't think of decent agi hands)
Storm x2
Atheling
Crudelis
Ambusher's
AF3+2

I tried to skew closer to "sufficient" over optimal, but if you can think of more suitable equipment that you can obtain obviously fill free to sub it in. And if you're taking something like this into dyna it probably would be best to stick to bst.

My BST is geared pretty nicely at least I thought it was lol. For TP have been using:

PDT/PDT/---/Astro
Emp+2/Ferine/Suppa/Brutal
Emp+2/Brego/Epona/Rajas
Atheling/Twilight/Emp+2/Emp+2

My Ruinator set is on my profile. There's likely improvements to be made, but I thought my sets were nice. Stupid single drops and competition lol.

But anyways, not trying to turn this into a BST thread >,>. Thanks for the gear list.

Reminds me of an RQT title a while back... "I find your lack of research disturbing" was it?

Howdy. I wanted to ask a few questions since I've been playing my THF a hellacious amount lately.

Ok..... so summing up what I've read from this thread:

Must have gear sets for several situations:

• One set for High Def Mobs/NMs (end game zones)
  

• Sets for Exenterator (1 for outside aby; 1 for inside)
  

• Sets for Evisceration (1 in; 1 out)
  

• One set to TP in (to rule them all hehe)

And then, once I get a Mandau or Twash:

• Gear for Att&Acc for Mandau (and does DblAtt/TrplAtt/QuadAtt gear need be added over att&acc?)
  

• Gear for Twash for the Dex WSC

Please help me confirm if this is accurate. :] I'm going thru and getting my sets put together so I'll know what kindo f goals to shoot for to finish building up my THF. Megaboss.

Thanks to you math wizards and special thanks to the people who insert inane jokes between posts haha.

dont need acc for Mercy, you stack it anyways so STR/ATT all the way.

But beside that yea your goals sound about right. you can find gearsets for most of the listed situations in spread over the THF forum topics. Not sure what your 1st on the list would be, since this is probably also a TP/WS Set. Can also add some kind of "evasion" set to your list, depends what you plan to do. Dont need to overshot on evasion, but some defensive sets are good to carry (evasion, pdt, mdt, depend what you are gonna do)

yo, thx ... i'ma try to go get some trousers from Karkadann tonight or tomorrow so i've slowly been reading all the -mdt gear i'll need to beef up on... glad i can do all this at work haha

I'm definitely not the most pro thf but you can find close to if not optimal sets on my page for most situations. And to get back on topic, there's a wicked Exenterator set too.

I usually stick to Exenterator outside and Evisceration inside/VW when I'm not using MS so I really only have 1 set for each.

i'm curious how well Evisc stacks to Exenterator these days with THF Gear.

I've given serious thought to dropping Exenterator, since in most cases, My Eviscerations do more damage these days, with all the new Critical hit Damage/Rate gear available. Maybe I'm just missing the really good Exent Gear (Like say, Thaumus)...

Anyone giving any thought to reevaluating the average damage difference between Evisc/Exent since a PW Introduction (Tessera Saio, etc)?

Just curious...

I dropped Exenterator because I farmed dyna with bst and I was never impressed by what it was doing for me.