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By TsyCaitsith 2013-03-21 09:08:06
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Ill Just leave this here;


thf/dnc farming fishing torque in outter horutoto ruins

Followed that fifteen minutes later with a 4787 exenterator on another bat o.O
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By Narb 2013-03-21 21:40:18
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Weak to piercing though.
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By Asura.Thebatman 2013-03-28 22:15:36
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Are the new Thurandaut gloves and pants worth using for exenterator? Sorry I'm not good with ffxi math and not sure if these having more AGI would beat options with more attack(skadi hand,thaumas leg).
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By Sylph.Malizia 2013-03-29 16:51:13
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FFXI math is pretty difficult, but fortunately we have spreadsheets! Plug in your Exenterator set and you can find out for yourself :)

But if you want the quick answer, they're most likely not better than Thaumas unless you're attack and fSTR capped.
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By Asura.Thebatman 2013-03-29 17:38:07
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Thanks for link mali /salute
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By Ragnarok.Evihime 2013-03-29 23:48:27
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Id use the Body tho.
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By Bismarck.Stani 2013-03-30 16:07:54
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I'm getting this as the top Exen set, pre-Thurandaut augment discovery, excluding Hexed gear:

ItemSet 294616

Sidegrades and alternatives pending attack ratio cap or starvation:
+ Thaumas Hat*
+ Ghillie Earring
+ Altdorf/Wilhelm Earring set (Brutal/Auster saving an inv slot was my deciding factor)
+ Thaumas Coat, Tessera Saio
+ Skadi's Bazubands +1, Thaumas Gloves*
+ Epona's Ring over a Stormsoul to save inventory
+ Prosilio Belt

* Thaumas Hat and Gloves only fall behind the Chocalitzli Mask and Thurandaut Gloves duo by 2 AGI and 4 STR.

Asura.Thebatman said: »
Are the new Thurandaut gloves and pants worth using for exenterator? Sorry I'm not good with ffxi math and not sure if these having more AGI would beat options with more attack(skadi hand,thaumas leg).

Thurandaut Gloves don't significantly beat Thaumas Gloves until you diminish the Thaumas set bonus with other swaps, and then only marginally so. After swapping Thaumas Coat for Thurandaut Tabard, one would need to replace both the Thaumas Hat and Thaumas Gloves with Chocalitzli Mask and Thurandaut Gloves to see any appreciable gain (2 AGI and 4 STR). Separately, Chocalitzli mask and Thurandaut Gloves are just about equal to a Thaumas Hat or Gloves getting +5 STR and AGI from set bonus.

Thurandaut Tights provide more raw power to Exen, but fail to catch up to Thaumas Kecks' 20~ Attack and possible (if unlikely) fSTR gain from the listed 9 STR plus 2-5 from set bonus. I'd say keep the Thaumas Kecks going, unless Thurandaut gains good augments from Coalition. So far though, Coalition augments appaer to be mainly HP/MP, so don't hold your breath.
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By Ragnarok.Flippant 2013-03-30 16:47:06
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Bismarck.Stani said: »
I'm getting this as the top Exen set, pre-Thurandaut augment discovery, excluding Hexed gear:

ItemSet 294616

Sidegrades and alternatives pending attack ratio cap and attack starvation:
* Ghillie Earring
* Altdorf/Wilhelm Earring set (Brutal/Auster saving an inv slot was my deciding factor)
* Thaumas Coat, Tessera Saio
* Skadi's Bazubands +1
* Prosilio Belt

Asura.Thebatman said: »
Are the new Thurandaut gloves and pants worth using for exenterator? Sorry I'm not good with ffxi math and not sure if these having more AGI would beat options with more attack(skadi hand,thaumas leg).

Thurandaut Gloves are roughly equal to Thaumas Gloves if gloves are the 4th or 5th piece of the Thaumas set you're using in the Exen set (which they should be). Thurandaut Tights provide more raw power to Exen, but Thaumas pull ahead when you factor in the 17~ Attack and possible fSTR gain from 5 STR. I'd say keep the Thaumas, unless Thurandaut gains good augments from coalition.

Not seeing how Thaumas Hat+Gloves (14STR + 30AGI including marginal bonus from 2->4) set could outdo Choca Mask+Thurandaut Gloves (18STR + 32AGI). Am I doing something wrong D;

Also the difference between Thaumas and Thurandaut legs is more than 5STR -- Thaumas has 9 on itself alone (I think you're only thinking about the 3->4 set bonus).
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By Bismarck.Stani 2013-03-30 18:51:46
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Ragnarok.Flippant said: »
Bismarck.Stani said: »
I'm getting this as the top Exen set, pre-Thurandaut augment discovery, excluding Hexed gear:

ItemSet 294616

Sidegrades and alternatives pending attack ratio cap and attack starvation:
* Ghillie Earring
* Altdorf/Wilhelm Earring set (Brutal/Auster saving an inv slot was my deciding factor)
* Thaumas Coat, Tessera Saio
* Skadi's Bazubands +1
* Prosilio Belt

Asura.Thebatman said: »
Are the new Thurandaut gloves and pants worth using for exenterator? Sorry I'm not good with ffxi math and not sure if these having more AGI would beat options with more attack(skadi hand,thaumas leg).

Thurandaut Gloves are roughly equal to Thaumas Gloves if gloves are the 4th or 5th piece of the Thaumas set you're using in the Exen set (which they should be). Thurandaut Tights provide more raw power to Exen, but Thaumas pull ahead when you factor in the 17~ Attack and possible fSTR gain from 5 STR. I'd say keep the Thaumas, unless Thurandaut gains good augments from coalition.

Not seeing how Thaumas Hat+Gloves (14STR + 30AGI including marginal bonus from 2->4) set could outdo Choca Mask+Thurandaut Gloves (18STR + 32AGI). Am I doing something wrong D;

Also the difference between Thaumas and Thurandaut legs is more than 5STR -- Thaumas has 9 on itself alone (I think you're only thinking about the 3->4 set bonus).

Good calls, I checked Thaumas Gloves and Hat against Thurandaut Gloves and Chocaliztli Mask separately, didn't notice the set bonus implications of swapping both combinatorially.
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By Odin.Godan 2013-03-31 08:34:27
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How this would look since i dont have access to NNI or much of the vwnm gear? oh yeah maybe exchange for Kudzu aketon?
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2013-03-31 19:05:18
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Thur Body is better than Kudzu and Loki's. Especially Loki's.

Just gotta go vote SIGNBOARD! in order to unlock it. (Peacekeepers)
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By Fenrir.Calamity 2013-04-01 20:05:04
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Gonna assume that ethereal is there mistakenly?
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By Odin.Godan 2013-04-02 00:09:37
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Fenrir.Calamity said: »
Gonna assume that ethereal is there mistakenly?
i can get the +1 version of the attack one easily but at this point, i am not really sure if i should go for more agi or attack so i am not spending gil until i am completely sure if the agi +4 is worth it.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2013-04-02 00:15:31
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Justiciar's over Houyi's if you feel like spending money.
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By Pooki 2013-07-20 18:01:04
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Phoenix.Brixy said: »
Messing around with Exenterator on DNC:

side by side comparison of Exenterator/Rudra's.

Rudra's will still beat it when Climactic flourish is up, but Exenterator makes a good ws for when its down or those that do not have rudra's.
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By lucasroper82 2013-07-29 08:39:27
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Pooki said: »
Phoenix.Brixy said: »
Messing around with Exenterator on DNC:

side by side comparison of Exenterator/Rudra's.

Rudra's will still beat it when Climactic flourish is up, but Exenterator makes a good ws for when its down or those that do not have rudra's.
Atmas? please

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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-07-29 09:45:03
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2013-08-03 22:20:10
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Is Exenterator the best way to go now for THF? For higher level stuff it seems Evis would lose out due to it being reliant on crits eh?
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By Asura.Ruzoko 2014-02-28 19:56:50
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anyone know a good ws set for Exenterator as of all recent updates?
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By Bahamut.Darksouls 2014-02-28 20:00:02
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Asura.Ruzoko said: »
anyone know a good ws set for Exenterator as of all recent updates?
I think the set in thf guide is pretty up-to-date except maybe switch feet to relic 119 feet.
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