Exenterator

4 x (5x0.85) = 17

So yeah that would be better to use Raider's Poulaines +2 I suppose. The difference would become more substantial if you Double Attack/Triple Attack.

:| Still +1 though didn't we already have a page somewhere in bright red bolding saying 100%?

Adding 1 AGI is equivalent to DMG+1 unless your AGI before adding it is 0,6, or 13 mod 20.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean... Actually I have no clue.

This.

I'm with him until he kicks off at: Unless...

then 0 6 13 20 just become big Huhs?

Get the total agi you WS with and divide by 20, if the remainder of the division is either 0, 6 or 13 you won't get a +1 dmg from 1 agi. You will get 0 damage off it.

This is the way the game works. No decimals (well, mostly). The reason for that is in the WS damage formula. There is a 'floor' step on it that cuts of the decimals.

This thinking system Sylow showed is nice if you want to HQ your ws set. Say you ws in 172 agi and you use 2x auster rings. If you do 172 mod 20 you get 12. 1 agi will net you 1 damage. So there is benefit from a possible swap to a stormsoul ring. But now, at that point you have 173 agi (mod 20 is 13). Adding a second stormsoul ring won't do anything to your damage.

Errr.. no.
That's not what he's saying.

Remainder 0,6,13 are the points within 20-point cycle where the decimal is so low that adding a 0.85 won't result 1 integer up.

That's the same thing Laphine just said.

My bad, I guess I'm too fixed with the semantics of word "adding" on last sentence, while he should've written "changing".

How does everyone determine these "damage formulas"?

Perhaps if I could look over them some more on my own time I could understand better. I'm still not solidly understanding, but beginning to.

Take your pick.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/27306/ffxi-equationsstatistics-thread#1654060

Easy enough to follow primer to weaponskill damage calculation. pDIF is the only annoying part as it is not fully understood and most public sources are largely inaccurate in some places. The link to BGwiki's pDIF page is less accurate than FFXIclopedia's pDIF page, however it is easier to understand for beginners.

Thanks, Prothescar.

I'll study these and try to make some more sense of it.

I don't have the empy/woe dagger but I was curious as to what merit lvl does this become better than evisceration?

Has anyone considered the Sea Gorgets? Supposedly they come out ahead for Resolution, which actually has a STR mod to favor Justiciar.

They come out in favor because the increase to fTP carries across all hits. Such is not the case on Exenterator.

How/why the hell does that work on Resolution and not Exenterator?

I would ask the same thing, but it's likely that way as an accident or because SE saw fit to be meticulous and screw over 1 particular WS. "YOU BUY JUSTICIAR. NO CHEAP WS FOR YOU, ROUNDEYE!"

Can someone explain to me why justicar is better than a +agi neck? is there a rate for how much str or atk it takes to overtake agi?

Motenten's excel sheets are a great tool if you want to compare gear for different sets. It lets you input settings as far as what buffs/food/gear/monster you're fighting. I highly recommend it.

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0A0wGYYRRdaZjdlNTdkNTEtMDMyYy00OTVmLWI4N2ItNDMwMDI1N2VkYWZk&hl=en

Here's what i've found to give the best numbers unstacked using yellow curry bun, no other buffs using Bukhis as the target but without cruor buffs or atmas, dia 2, nin sub and 12 STR merits.

oh right i never did finish my stat merits. im at 3 str 5 dex right now, should i go 7 str 5 dex or just full 12 str? (ws using dex for rudra)

From the spreadsheet, 7 STR and 5 DEX is optimal. I also have WAR so i just went with 12 STR.

That spreadsheet is awesome, thanks

How does Cuauhtli Headpiece +1 compare to Oce. Headpiece +1? Wondering which to use and in which situations. That's if Cuauhtli is even worth using...

Loses on solo ws, more on stacked.

Could you do one stacked with Sneak Attack for EX please?

Lulz at least i know my personal home grown SS works fine. Thats the identical set i use that i worked out on mine, except im to lazy to get +4agi earring to pair with brutal so I just use the earring set+8 agi :P

Oh i wasnt looking at weapons since those are usually pretty fixed for most people and theres probably only like 3 people with twash+mandau 99 :P

Twash still has the most extreme DPS of any offhand (assuming its 99) and my last few parses have been ~50% melee damage, so I cant imagine an offhand boosting WS damage enough to counter the loss in melee.

Id still gear weapons for overall melee DPS prioritized over WS. Technically a simple Agi magian offhand would be stronger for WS just because it has more raw agi for higher base damage accross all hits, but has considerably lower DPS for the rest of your melee.

A str magian might have a shot just because the atk and the str landing on both weapons increases base damage by 2.75(usually 3) on both hands. So ideally, it adds 6 damage per round while twash 99 adds 8 per round. the 22atk should cover the rest, but it is also much slower. Str thoksha might win if the target has very high def, but id have to math that one out more specifically. Also if it has high def, the 20 dex(10 acc) would also come into play and probably undo any edge thokcha had.

My gut still says twash due to the 10 acc, raw DPS, and ability to probably have very, very high Ddex during TP phase. I know with my twash main(coruscanti offhand) I TP in +73dex. +83 if i ever get stupid Athos boots with 101-102 base depending on /nin or /war. 174-185 dex is actually enough to cap Ddex on a crapload of stuff.

I havent explicitly mathed out many dagger combos since im pretty much twash4lyfe at the moment. Ill probably look into it more once i get my mandau finished and leveled up to 95.

We cant forget Thf is still largely a melee DPS machine. I will never hit ~75% damage from WS like i do on drg.