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execute woman - starving & abusing 9-year-old
By Demoncard 2014-09-18 10:58:57
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Seems like the Death Penalty was reinstated just for this.
Father of the boy who allowed this to happen should have also received it, instead of life in prison with parole in 30 years. Reinstatement for a measure that's always been in place?
The father isn't mentioned, but given the time period in which the crime happened, it's safe to assume he didn't have custody or visiting rights, or he's dead. The woman's girlfriend isn't a father, if that's what you thought.
Justice has nothing to do with ending another persons life. You have that confused with vengence. "Justice isn't vengeance!"
Justice is subjective. Victim's justice is frequently a form of vengeance.
This thread makes me want to puke.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2014-09-18 10:59:43
At minimum, ship them off somewhere else lol.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-18 11:01:20
Asura.Refreshazure said: »Don't get me wrong: the *** is a waste of oxygen, I know plenty just the same, but as a civilized society we shouldn't be in the business of murder, they're caught and can't harm society anymore, there's no excuse or justification for killing them.
ya it wrong to kill in civilized society and it may cost more but i still think we need to look past that and kill her, child mutilation/murder needs a death sentenced she needs to be in the ground and you cant let that kind of murder go or there may be some one who will mimic her and go "i can get way with it o only get only get life".
Any way back to are back to are regular scheduled drone attacks on muslims So you're looking past the points that matter in favor of your sick and twisted delusions of justice?
Some of you are just bloodthirsty, it's quite disgusting, and I bet every one of you would be in favor of public executions, and go watch.
You'll gun someone down looking for help on a porch in the middle of the night because you're a coward afraid of what they "might" do, but call us bloodthirsty for wanting to see a *** terrible human being executed for heinous crimes.
What the actual ***.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-09-18 11:02:22
execution is murder, ergo unjustifiable.
To quote a great philosophy; "But the question of justice has concerned me greatly of late. And I say to any creature who may be listening, there can be no justice so long as laws are absolute."
LOL TNG
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-09-18 11:03:07
you're obviously too dumb to understand how his unparalleled beautiful mind functions.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-18 11:03:18
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Seems like the Death Penalty was reinstated just for this.
Father of the boy who allowed this to happen should have also received it, instead of life in prison with parole in 30 years. Reinstatement for a measure that's always been in place?
The father isn't mentioned, but given the time period in which the crime happened, it's safe to assume he didn't have custody or visiting rights, or he's dead. The woman's girlfriend isn't a father, if that's what you thought.
It was suspended from 1972 through 1976.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-18 11:03:27
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:04:00
execution is murder, ergo unjustifiable.
To quote a great philosophy; "But the question of justice has concerned me greatly of late. And I say to any creature who may be listening, there can be no justice so long as laws are absolute." Ah Picard, I really need to start watching that...
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:05:35
Asura.Refreshazure said: »Don't get me wrong: the *** is a waste of oxygen, I know plenty just the same, but as a civilized society we shouldn't be in the business of murder, they're caught and can't harm society anymore, there's no excuse or justification for killing them.
ya it wrong to kill in civilized society and it may cost more but i still think we need to look past that and kill her, child mutilation/murder needs a death sentenced she needs to be in the ground and you cant let that kind of murder go or there may be some one who will mimic her and go "i can get way with it o only get only get life".
Any way back to are back to are regular scheduled drone attacks on muslims So you're looking past the points that matter in favor of your sick and twisted delusions of justice?
Some of you are just bloodthirsty, it's quite disgusting, and I bet every one of you would be in favor of public executions, and go watch. You'll gun someone down looking for help on a porch in the middle of the night because you're a coward afraid of what they "might" do, but call us bloodthirsty for wanting to see a *** terrible human being executed for heinous crimes.
What the actual ***. I'd gun somebody down who I think for all intents and purpose is trying to break in, high and trying to do me harm, you're damn straight I will.
You are bloodthirsty as that's what keeps being posted here.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:06:02
you're obviously too dumb to understand how his unparalleled beautiful mind functions. ^
Talk about being obtuse.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:06:30
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. But it's not stopped, and there is no justice in murder.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-18 11:07:43
execution is murder, ergo unjustifiable.
To quote a great philosophy; "But the question of justice has concerned me greatly of late. And I say to any creature who may be listening, there can be no justice so long as laws are absolute." Ah Picard, I really need to start watching that... YouTube Video Placeholder
ironically appropriate..
By Blazed1979 2014-09-18 11:08:04
Asura.Refreshazure said: »Don't get me wrong: the *** is a waste of oxygen, I know plenty just the same, but as a civilized society we shouldn't be in the business of murder, they're caught and can't harm society anymore, there's no excuse or justification for killing them.
ya it wrong to kill in civilized society and it may cost more but i still think we need to look past that and kill her, child mutilation/murder needs a death sentenced she needs to be in the ground and you cant let that kind of murder go or there may be some one who will mimic her and go "i can get way with it o only get only get life".
Any way back to are back to are regular scheduled drone attacks on muslims So you're looking past the points that matter in favor of your sick and twisted delusions of justice?
Some of you are just bloodthirsty, it's quite disgusting, and I bet every one of you would be in favor of public executions, and go watch. You'll gun someone down looking for help on a porch in the middle of the night because you're a coward afraid of what they "might" do, but call us bloodthirsty for wanting to see a *** terrible human being executed for heinous crimes.
What the actual ***. I'd gun somebody down who I think for all intents and purpose is trying to break in, high and trying to do me harm, you're damn straight I will.
You are bloodthirsty as that's what keeps being posted here.
How do you consolidate those two positions?
You kill a thief or intruder but spare the murderer?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-18 11:08:24
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. So who kills the one that kills them?
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:08:47
So when are we going to indite Rick Perry for murdering over 200 people in his reign?
By Demoncard 2014-09-18 11:09:23
It was suspended from 1972 through 1976. Irrelevant to the case, then.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-18 11:10:04
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. But it's not stopped, and there is no justice in murder.
The murdering is stopped. Theirs a benefit to living with a potentially guilty conscious... your still living. And so is everyone else she might have ended. - If my conscious is the price to pay to keep some other innocent alive, then so be it.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-18 11:10:19
It was suspended from 1972 through 1976. Irrelevant to the case, then.
It's not irrelevant to the post you quoted, as that's what was being referenced.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:11:04
Asura.Refreshazure said: »Don't get me wrong: the *** is a waste of oxygen, I know plenty just the same, but as a civilized society we shouldn't be in the business of murder, they're caught and can't harm society anymore, there's no excuse or justification for killing them.
ya it wrong to kill in civilized society and it may cost more but i still think we need to look past that and kill her, child mutilation/murder needs a death sentenced she needs to be in the ground and you cant let that kind of murder go or there may be some one who will mimic her and go "i can get way with it o only get only get life".
Any way back to are back to are regular scheduled drone attacks on muslims So you're looking past the points that matter in favor of your sick and twisted delusions of justice?
Some of you are just bloodthirsty, it's quite disgusting, and I bet every one of you would be in favor of public executions, and go watch. You'll gun someone down looking for help on a porch in the middle of the night because you're a coward afraid of what they "might" do, but call us bloodthirsty for wanting to see a *** terrible human being executed for heinous crimes.
What the actual ***. I'd gun somebody down who I think for all intents and purpose is trying to break in, high and trying to do me harm, you're damn straight I will.
You are bloodthirsty as that's what keeps being posted here.
How do you consolidate those two positions?
You kill a thief or intruder but spare the murderer?
You assume that the intruder is a thief, but most likely they're there to do harm to you, most thieves don't break into a known occupied home, home invasions are dangerous and often result in losing life or limb. Self defence is absolute, and about the only time I can think for actually killing somebody on purpose and being fine with it, but I'm sure if we dig, I can find a few other rare instances.
But there's no justice in executions, nothing is being protected, nothing is saved.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-18 11:11:56
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Seems like the Death Penalty was reinstated just for this.
Father of the boy who allowed this to happen should have also received it, instead of life in prison with parole in 30 years. Reinstatement for a measure that's always been in place?
The father isn't mentioned, but given the time period in which the crime happened, it's safe to assume he didn't have custody or visiting rights, or he's dead. The woman's girlfriend isn't a father, if that's what you thought.
Justice has nothing to do with ending another persons life. You have that confused with vengence. "Justice isn't vengeance!"
Justice is subjective. Victim's justice is frequently a form of vengeance.
This thread makes me want to puke. Ah, yeah, I misread that part.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:12:34
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. But it's not stopped, and there is no justice in murder.
The murdering is stopped. Theirs a benefit to living with a potentially guilty conscious... your still living. And so is everyone else she might have ended. - If my conscious is the price to pay to keep some other innocent alive, then so be it. They're not going to kill other people in maximum security unless the prison is mismanaged, then that is on the prison.
Murdering never ends, there's always another killer, and there's no benefit to killing them. Your sick concepts of "revenge = justice" isn't a benefit.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-18 11:12:43
Man up and commit to something. Go full pacifism or deal with the fact that these criminals deserve what they get.
Don't half-*** it.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-18 11:12:51
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. But it's not stopped, and there is no justice in murder.
The murdering is stopped. Theirs a benefit to living with a potentially guilty conscious... your still living. And so is everyone else she might have ended. - If my conscious is the price to pay to keep some other innocent alive, then so be it. This is starting to look more and more like a minority report thread...
Kill them for the things they might do!
Your conscious? If we're talking about you actually going out and killing these people to end their specific cycle what's going to stop them from going after you and your family or friends?
there's a reason vigilante justice is dicouraged...
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-18 11:13:26
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. So who kills the one that kills them?
No one. It circle back to the justification argument earlier in the thread; of which in not going to retype.
In my mind:
She killed and tortured a child in cold blood. - unjustifiable
Executioner killed her to stop the killing. - justifiable
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-18 11:14:31
Man up and commit to something. Go full pacifism or deal with the fact that these criminals deserve what they get.
Don't half-*** it. Who gave you the right to determine who lives and dies though? Should we ever even have that right?
By Demoncard 2014-09-18 11:14:56
It was suspended from 1972 through 1976. Irrelevant to the case, then.
It's not irrelevant to the post you quoted, as that's what was being referenced. He was writing in reference to this case. A suspension period of 4 years 40 years ago has no bearing on this case. Stop grasping.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-09-18 11:15:56
In order to stop them we become them!!!!
At least its stopped. Id rather deal with killing the killer and have it stop at 2 deaths rather then let them live and potentially kill again. Making the number far higher then 2. So who kills the one that kills them?
Flav are you serious? Do you not see the difference between someone who kills violently and someone who is tasked with disposing such a heinous offender from society? Are you in the 'all soldiers are violent murderers' crowd?
How'd you get through FFXI? Where your character routinely kills bad guys? Put down the controller, murderer. Shoulda slapped the cuffs on the Shadow Lord.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-18 11:16:04
Man up and commit to something. Go full pacifism or deal with the fact that these criminals deserve what they get.
Don't half-*** it. I'm not a pacifist by any means, and whether or not you think they deserved it, or I think they did is irrelevant to the fact that society gains nothing from murdering them in cold blood, regardless of what they've done.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-18 11:16:33
Man up and commit to something. Go full pacifism or deal with the fact that these criminals deserve what they get.
Don't half-*** it. Who gave you the right to determine who lives and dies though? Should we ever even have that right?
Humans have been doing that since they first existed.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-18 11:16:36
It was suspended from 1972 through 1976. Irrelevant to the case, then.
It's not irrelevant to the post you quoted, as that's what was being referenced. He was writing in reference to this case. A suspension period of 4 years 40 years ago has no bearing on this case. Stop grasping. I wasn't referencing to this case, specifically, but to the acts that have warranted the reinstatement of the death penalty for heinous crimes *like* this.
Stop, think, and pull yourself out of going full retard all the time.
Quote: Texas set to execute woman convicted of starving 9-year-old
(Reuters) - A woman convicted of the 2004 starving death of a 9-year-old boy is scheduled to die on Wednesday by lethal injection at a Texas state prison, authorities said.
Lisa Ann Coleman, 38, would be the second woman executed in the United States this year and the 15th since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976.
Coleman is scheduled to be put to death after 6 p.m. Central Time (7 p.m. EDT) at the state's death chamber in Huntsville. She would also be the 517th prisoner put to death in Texas, the most of any state since 1976.
Investigators were called to Coleman's house in July 2004, where they found Davontae Williams dead with a disfigured ear, swollen hands and ligature marks on his wrists and ankles, according to court records.
An autopsy determined that Williams, son of Coleman's long-time girlfriend, Marcella Williams, had died from malnutrition and pneumonia and weighed just 35 pounds, court records said.
He had been beaten with a golf club and bound by an extension cord, investigators found. His body also showed signs of having been treated with over-the-counter medications, ointments, creams and bandages, court records said.
There was evidence that suggested he was fed chicken noodle soup and Pedialyte before he died, but a doctor testified that the food he received was "inadequate ... too late, and possibly too much," court records said.
Coleman was convicted of capital murder by a jury in 2006 and sentenced to death. Williams also was convicted of capital murder. Williams was sentenced to life in prison and is eligible for parole in 30 years, according to prison records.
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