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Iraq calls for US Millatary Aid
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-12 17:50:52
No big deal. They aren't combat troops.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-12 17:52:17
annnd
Quote: A troop is a military unit, originally a small force of cavalry, subordinate to a squadron. In many armies a troop is the equivalent unit to the infantry section or platoon. Exceptions are the Royal Horse Artillery and the US Cavalry, where troop refers to an infantry company or artillery battery.
A cavalry soldier of private rank is called a trooper in many Commonwealth armies (abbreviated Tpr, not to be confused with trouper).
A related sense of the term troop refers to members of the military collectively, as in the troops; see Troop (disambiguation).
Like I said: when did some advisers equate to troops?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 17:53:07
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-12 17:58:39
No, they're still not troops and to call them as such is purposely misleading.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-12 18:00:23
They are troops, but it's not really the same thing.
This has an extremely high chance of devolving into everyone's favorite catalyst for a 100 page thread, the Semantic debate, but Advisers aren't recognized as combat troops.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 18:03:06
Quote: The Obama administration may announce on Tuesday a decision to send more military advisers to Iraq, U.S. officials said, as the United States helps confront radical Islamist militants who threaten Iraqi minorities and the northern Kurdish enclave.
Several U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a decision to send at least 70 extra military personnel to Iraq was likely later in the day, but that internal discussions continued and a final decision had not been made.
Since fighters from the self-styled Islamic State, an al Qaeda offshoot, seized much of northwestern Iraq in June, the United States has sent about 700 military personnel to protect U.S. diplomats there and take stock of Iraq's military capacity. U.S. could announce more troops to Iraq: officialsUpdate 70 is now 130.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 18:03:21
They are troops, but it's not really the same thing.
This has an extremely high chance of devolving into everyone's favorite catalyst for a 100 page thread, the Semantic debate, but Advisers aren't recognized as combat troops. Take it up with Reuters.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 18:07:35
Someone said earlier that oil has nothing to do with it in the interests of the U.S.
Quote: U.S. refiners will refrain from buying more Kurdish crude oil until a long-running dispute between Baghdad and Iraqi Kurdistan is settled, while Washington urges both sides to set aside their differences and helps them tackle Sunni militants.
The two known U.S. buyers of Kurdish crude oil have now rejected delivery of cargoes from tankers near New Jersey and Texas, saying they will not make further purchases until it is determined who has the right to sell the oil: the central government of Iraq or the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG). Oil tankers in limbo show Kurds losing access to U.S. market
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-12 18:19:49
I think that was Savael and it wasn't even worth reading.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-08-12 18:23:18
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 18:25:52
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, this was just Jet trolling that started this.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-12 18:30:48
They are troops, but it's not really the same thing.
This has an extremely high chance of devolving into everyone's favorite catalyst for a 100 page thread, the Semantic debate, but Advisers aren't recognized as combat troops. Take it up with Reuters.
Why? They're doing exactly what I expect, sensationalist headlines for clickbait. You're just being stupid for stupid's sake.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 18:37:08
They are troops, but it's not really the same thing.
This has an extremely high chance of devolving into everyone's favorite catalyst for a 100 page thread, the Semantic debate, but Advisers aren't recognized as combat troops. Take it up with Reuters.
Why? They're doing exactly what I expect, sensationalist headlines for clickbait. I'm just being a *** for the hell of it. ftfy.
By Jetackuu 2014-08-12 18:50:24
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, this was just me being a trolling douche that started this. ftfy, as unlike you, I don't troll.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-12 18:57:47
They are troops, but it's not really the same thing.
This has an extremely high chance of devolving into everyone's favorite catalyst for a 100 page thread, the Semantic debate, but Advisers aren't recognized as combat troops. Take it up with Reuters.
Why? They're doing exactly what I expect, sensationalist headlines for clickbait. I'm just being a super awesome and smart for the hell of it. wah
ftfy.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-12 19:21:15
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, this was just Jet trolling that started this. I'm a trolling douche, what did you expect? Touche.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-08-12 19:29:28
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, this was just Jet trolling that started this. I'm a trolling douche, what did you expect? Why does my penis expand when I look at dead squirrels?
Not really relevant to the thread Chaos, but you might be a serial killer.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-12 20:02:07
No big deal. They aren't combat troops. Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
I never said they weren't troops, I consider anyone on active duty to be troops, but I don't really care to split hairs over the definition. As long as they aren't civilian contractors call them whatever you want, they aren't combat troops, that's all that matters to me. Yeah, this was just Jet trolling that started this. I'm a trolling douche, what did you expect? Why does my penis expand when I look at dead squirrels?
Not really relevant to the thread Chaos, but you might be a serial killer. Chaos is like Al Gore. Not really relevant, super cereal, and in desperate need of a friend.
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-12 21:44:34
Chaos: stop projecting.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-13 08:51:16
Figures, no one has anything intelligent or even rational to contribute so let's follow Jet's trolling.
Nice try though.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-13 08:53:10
Internal power struggle of what's left of the Iraqi government continues.
Quote: Nuri al-Maliki stuck to his guns and refused to accept his removal as Iraq's prime minister on Wednesday, but his hold on power was tenuous as Iran's supreme leader, a long-time Maliki ally, publicly backed his replacement.
Taking to state television as acting premier, Maliki said the supreme court must rule on this week's move to ask his Shi'ite Islamist party colleague Haider al-Abadi to form a new government - a change that Iran, the United States and many Iraqis see as vital to halt the advance of Sunni militants.
But while the loyalty of at least some Shi'ite militia and government forces remains uncertain, there were further signs that Maliki, blamed for alienating the Sunni minority during his eight years in power, is isolated, even among fellow Shi'ites.
U.S. President Barack Obama - whose European allies followed his lead on Wednesday to arm Kurdish forces that have taken the recent brunt of fighting with the Sunni Islamic State - has already offered Abadi its endorsement. Washington lost patience with Maliki, who rose from obscurity during the U.S. occupation.
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, bound to Tehran's U.S. adversary by a common interest in curbing the rise of Sunni jihadists in Syria and Iraq, offered his personal endorsement to Abadi. He very publicly distanced himself in the process from Maliki, who has looked for support from Iran, where he spent years in exile opposing Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein.
"I hope the designation of the new prime minister in Iraq will untie the knot and lead to the establishment of a new government and teach a good lesson to those who aim for sedition in Iraq," Khamenei said in a statement on his website. Maliki refuses to go as Iraqis turn to new leader
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-13 09:12:09
Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
they are all going to wear cheap flea market flip flops to adhere to obama's strict "no boots on the ground policy"
except that one guy that wears heels...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-13 09:13:43
Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
they are all going to wear cheap flea market flip flops to adhere to obama's strict "no boots on the ground policy"
except that one guy that wears heels... Or Crocks.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-13 09:16:00
Exactly, they're troops, but non-combat troops. Still trained through normal branches of the military.
they are all going to wear cheap flea market flip flops to adhere to obama's strict "no boots on the ground policy"
except that one guy that wears heels... Or Crocks.
as long as it's not boots!
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-13 11:50:59
Figures, no one has anything intelligent or even rational to contribute so let's follow Chaos's trolling.
Nice try though. ftfy
By volkom 2014-08-13 12:07:45
Is this Vietnam but in the desert?
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-13 12:22:53
Is this Vietnam but in the desert?
comparable, I suppose. would need to drag on for another 10 or so years though, I think.
By fonewear 2014-08-13 12:28:24
Is this Vietnam but in the desert?
Well most of the hippies are too lazy to protest this.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-13 12:37:46
Is this Vietnam but in the desert?
The official title is "Vietnam 2 electric boogaloo"
we ran out words to put after "desert"
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-13 13:40:50
'desert storm III: the sandiest"
Quote: Iraq Asks U.S. to Help Quell Militant Uprising
Following a wave of violence that has seen two major cities fall to insurgent forces, the government of Iraq has asked the United States for air assistance in quelling the uprising by al-Qaeda affiliated militants, U.S. officials confirmed to NBC News on Wednesday.
The Wall Street Journal was the first to report the request, citing senior officials who noted that the White House is mulling several options, "including the possibility of providing 'kinetic support' for the Iraqi military" which is fighting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, an affiliate of al-Qaeda known by the initials ISIS or ISIL.
Over the past few days, the group's militants, many of them in fast-moving pickup trucks mounted with machine guns, captured Iraq's second-largest city, Mosul, before barreling south to take the city of Tikrit — two urban centers in the heartland of northern Iraq's oil industry.
Iraq has previously asked for drones it could use, but Washington didn't want to supply them to the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, which has close ties to Tehran and has permitted Iran to ship weapons to the Syria regime through Iraqi territory.
Officials on Tuesday did not want to discuss specifics of the potential military assistance.
"We are not going to get into details of our diplomatic discussions but the Government of Iraq has made clear that they welcome our support in their effort to confront ISIL," National Security Council official Bernadette Meehan told NBC News.
"We have expedited shipments of military equipment since the beginning of the year, ramped up training of Iraqi Security Forces, and worked intensively to help Iraq implement a holistic approach to counter this terrorist threat," she added. "Our assistance has been comprehensive, is continuing, and will increase."
Meanwhile, Vice President Joe Biden on Wednesday spoke by phone to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan and pledged U.S. support following the ISIS's siege of the Turkish consulate in Mosul and kidnapping of various personnel — including the consul general and his family.
"The Vice President underscored (that) the United States condemns the actions taken by ISIL, calls for the safe and immediate return of the Turkish personnel and family members, and supports efforts by Iraqi national and Kurdish security forces to work together to combat the ISIL threat," the White House said in a statement.
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