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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-11 11:15:53
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Democrats were the original slave owners before the parties switch names because of the Republicans wanting to abolish slavery throughout the union.

Change the names, confuse the voters. Should do it again, and really confuse people.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 12:02:24
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Gotta love how they blatantly twist his words to fit an agenda.

More educated voters = being informed on the issues = racist!
Yes, because he totally wasn't talking about black voters. Keep sticking up for blatant racists. It doesn't make you look racist at all.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 12:19:24
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Gotta love how they blatantly twist his words to fit an agenda.

More educated voters = being informed on the issues = racist!
Yes, because he totally wasn't talking about black voters. Keep sticking up for blatant racists. It doesn't make you look racist at all.

Inferring racism where none exists (yet again). Pleebo's right on cue making words mean what he wants them too instead of what they actually do...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 12:24:15
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Explain how he's not referring to black voters as uneducated when the entire topic has to do with early voting in a decidedly black-dominated location
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 12:31:59
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Explain how he's not referring to black voters as uneducated when the entire topic has to do with early voting in a decidedly black-dominated location

You're claim is entirely based on the fact that he doesn't have to say something racist to be racist. Just because a county is predominantly black doesn't mean every uneducated person the guy doesn't want to vote are black. The guy doesn't want idiots to vote. If some are not black then by definition the guy isn't limiting his comments to one particular race.

Furthermore the fact that you are connecting the dots in that particular way says far more about your obsession with race than his. You're the one who automatically assumes the uneducated voters he's referring to are BLACK, you're the racist.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 13:32:50
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Oh god, lol...

His facebook posts regarding early voting specifically identifies the location as predominantly African-American. His comments are directed at this one group because this was the only group mentioned in his initial posting. Why would he want to suppress any movement that allows increased voter turnout anyway? Racist overtones aside, what does that say about him as a *** elected official?

I think I have more respect for overt racists rather than the subtler variety of their apologists. At least it takes some guts to come right out and say you don't want black people voting as much.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 14:09:26
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Why would he want to suppress any movement that allows increased voter turnout anyway? Racist overtones aside, what does that say about him as a *** elected official?

As for why would he not want increased turnout. Idiots and the ignorant should NOT vote. Decisions based on less information than the full facts are never well made. Would you ever buy a car without doing your research, how about a house? But voting? Sure why not (as long as you vote democrat)? Nothing politically motivated here. <sarcasm>

Still not seeing the racism in his comments. He may be looking to stop this early voting effort, but as it will stop other races from voting also, it's not really "racist". I suppose you could find some other early voting effort he supports that is for 'whites only', then I'd be more sympathetic but you're still doing most of the work here via inference.

Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-11 14:29:05
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Who decides who is ignorant, an idiot or well informed enough to vote? If I think you're an idiot should we not allow you to vote?

It's all politically motivated. One wants a decrease in voter turnout because it will allow him a better chance of winning and the other wants an increase in voter turnout as it will allow him a better chance to win. It's as simple as that.

Nausi... for a person who says he's all about the individuals rights you sure throw that sentiment to the wind often enough just because you personally don't agree with something.

Political motivation aside I think it's pretty appauling that someone would seek to limit rights, in this case to vote, to advance one's own/party's political career.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 14:33:20
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
No, it's not exclusionary and nothing is preventing other counties from enacting similar early voting rules (other than greater voter turnout not being particularly kind to GOP candidates).
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 14:42:27
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
No, it's not exclusionary and nothing is preventing other counties from enacting similar early voting rules (other than greater voter turnout not being particularly kind to GOP candidates).

Ok so if I want to enable a predominantly black county for early voting I am not racist but if I want to prohibit one from early voting I am racist.

Liberal logic, it's only racist if it's against black people. White people are fair game.

No one is withholding black people from their right to vote. Voting traditionally happens on ONE DAY. Not over the course of a week. This is a conversation about giving one particular group a particular privilege because it is more advantageous when paired to a particular candidate's get out the vote strategy.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-11 14:45:21
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
No, it's not exclusionary and nothing is preventing other counties from enacting similar early voting rules (other than greater voter turnout not being particularly kind to GOP candidates).

Ok so if I want to enable a predominantly black county for early voting I am not racist but if I want to prohibit one from early voting I am racist.

Liberal logic, it's only racist if it's against black people. White people are fair game.

How is it against white people enabling black people to vote?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 14:49:16
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
No, it's not exclusionary and nothing is preventing other counties from enacting similar early voting rules (other than greater voter turnout not being particularly kind to GOP candidates).

Ok so if I want to enable a predominantly black county for early voting I am not racist but if I want to prohibit one from early voting I am racist.

Liberal logic, it's only racist if it's against black people. White people are fair game.

How is it against white people enabling black people to vote?

Because you're enabling a "predominantly African American" county (pleebo thinks this means 'only black people') to vote but not extending the same policy to other counties (aka races).
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-09-11 14:54:29
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Exit question, is the fact that the other side wants to organize early voting in a predominantly black county racist? Why or why not?
No, it's not exclusionary and nothing is preventing other counties from enacting similar early voting rules (other than greater voter turnout not being particularly kind to GOP candidates).

Ok so if I want to enable a predominantly black county for early voting I am not racist but if I want to prohibit one from early voting I am racist.

Liberal logic, it's only racist if it's against black people. White people are fair game.

How is it against white people enabling black people to vote?

Because you're enabling a "predominantly African American" county (pleebo thinks this means 'only black people') to vote but not extending the same policy to other counties (aka races).

I...don't have the patience to explain this, and you probably wouldn't listen anyhow.

You have a serious victim complex going on.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 14:56:00
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Are you seriously saying that because it might affect a minority of non-black voters that it isn't racist? Because that's full-blow potato logic.

Nothing is preventing other counties from extending early voting. Try again.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 15:04:28
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Are you seriously saying that because it might affect a minority of non-black voters that it isn't racist? Because that's full-blow potato logic.

Nothing is preventing other counties from extending early voting. Try again.

YES!

According to you, the non-black minority doesn't count. You're applying a different standard for one race than another. Guess what pleebo? That's racist!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-11 15:12:09
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It depends really. Are the people enabling the early voting intiative able to enact change in voting availability in other counties? or is it strictyly a county initiative?

Is this based off records that show voter turn out is excessively lower in this county than it is in other counties and as such are they putting this initiative in place becasue voter turn out here is at 50% and in others they are 90% (not needed)?

Are they strictly prohibiting or campaigning against it anywhere else?

In any case Nausi both are politically motivated moves.

I'm for almost anything that increases voter interest and turnout and against pretty much anything that tries to restrict access to voter interest/turnout.

By making what you think is a point though you've pretty much admitted that both sides are racist and the actions you defended earlier as not such an act you are agreeing that it is now... soooooo....
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-11 15:13:14
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YES!

According to you, the non-black minority doesn't count. You're applying a different standard for one race than another. Guess what pleebo? That's racist!
...wat

I never said they didn't count. They're clearly not the motivating factor, you twit. It's amazing how much you'll twist yourself up in knots to defend racist comments and practices, but I imagine overt racism is difficult to pull off outside of certain circles.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-11 15:17:04
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Personally I don't think it's a racist move as much as it is a political one. I think that he'd have taken the same action in any case, regardless of the race issue, if he thought it was a democrat move to drum up more votes.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-09-11 15:20:20
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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YES!

According to you, the non-black minority doesn't count. You're applying a different standard for one race than another. Guess what pleebo? That's racist!
...wat

I never said they didn't count. They're clearly not the motivating factor, you twit. It's amazing how much you'll twist yourself up in knots to defend racist comments and practices, but I imagine overt racism is difficult to pull off outside of certain circles.
Right but if you're a non black guy willing to hinder non black people so you can hinder black people, you aren't practicing racism. You're applying the same policy across racial lines.

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It depends really. Are the people enabling the early voting intiative able to enact change in voting availability in other counties? or is it strictyly a county initiative?

Is this based off records that show voter turn out is excessively lower in this county than it is in other counties and as such are they putting this initiative in place becasue voter turn out here is at 50% and in others they are 90% (not needed)?

Are they strictly prohibiting or campaigning against it anywhere else?

In any case Nausi both are politically motivated moves.

I'm for almost anything that increases voter interest and turnout and against pretty much anything that tries to restrict access to voter interest/turnout.

By making what you think is a point though you've pretty much admitted that both sides are racist and the actions you defended earlier as not such an act you are agreeing that it is now... soooooo....

Hey, I know it's politically motivated. Pleebo apparently thinks its racism.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-09-11 15:40:29
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Hey, I know it's politically motivated. Pleebo apparently thinks its racism.
So you decided to make the same stupid argument you criticized just for the other side?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-11 18:01:55
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In other exclusive Huffington Post News:

(I have no idea who these people are btw)

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Some say age is just a number.



'Ray Donovan' Star Steven Bauer, 57, Steps Out With 18-Year-Old Girlfriend
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 10:07:46
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Some say love is a terrible song....!
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-09-12 10:11:21
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lol look at the perverted smile on that crazy old ***.

the USD is a helluva drug.
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 10:13:54
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I bet the relationship will last just long enough for me to not give a damn !
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 10:21:05
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/11/gofundme-abortions_n_5804228.html?utm_hp_ref=women&ir=Women


http://www.vice.com/read/meet-the-girl-whos-crowdfunding-her-abortion-905


Apparently this women wanted to "crow fund" her abortion...let the fun begin !


Crowdfunding is all the rage for folks who are hungry for potato salad, or in need of some dough for their stupid orchestra, but sometimes people reach out to the masses out of desperation. Meet Bailey. Bailey needs an abortion. So she went to GoFundMe.com (tagline: “Crowdfunding for Everyone!”) to ask for $2,500 for the operation. Like anything remotely related to fetuses, it’s drawn some considerable attention in less than a week and was even removed from the site for a while.

Her GoFundMe page, originally titled the "Stop Bailey From Breeding Fund," informs visitors that “Bailey is currently unemployed, completely broke, in debt, and in no position to hold down a job due to severe symptoms of a rough, unplanned and unexpected pregnancy.” Having just moved to Chicago from Phoenix, Arizona, Bailey says she’s 23, likes to read and go to shows, and really, really doesn’t want to be a mom.

In the past, GoFundMe has been used for some pretty noble projects, such as collecting donations for one of the victims of the Boston Marathon Bombing, and helping raise money to operate on the brain tumor of a morbidly obese 12-year-old. Somewhat more controversially, GoFundMe was used recently to support Officer Darren Wilson, who famously shot and killed unarmed 18-year-old Mike Brown, resulting in the Ferguson, Missouri demonstrations. I guess you could say the operators of GoFundMe aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty.

I called Bailey to ask about her plans to kickstart the termination of her fetus.

VICE: Hi Bailey, how are you doing?
Bailey: I’m doing pretty well. How are you?

Can I ask who is the father?
Can I say no to that?

Yeah, sure.
OK, cool.

Sorry for stalking you, but Facebook tells me you’re dating someone named Lücifer Ryzing, right?
Oh, no, that’s totally fine. I understand. There’s some other people who have figured out stuff, that don’t have any sort of good intentions, and they're doing more intense things. [laughs] But yeah, Lücifer Ryzing is someone I’ve known for a long time, that I’m sweet with. He started the GoFundMe page. He’s the one that’s really managing that.

How far along are you with the pregnancy?
I just got the ultrasound on Tuesday, the second of September and the ultrasound said 19 weeks and five days, but ultrasounds can be anywhere from seven to ten days off. It could be about 19 weeks, or I could be 20 weeks along exactly.

Why did you choose to use GoFundMe for your abortion?
We’re broke kids who really need to have this abortion, and you see crowdsourcing for all kinds of things. You see it for things like, "Help me press this record!" or "Help me pay my rent!" We saw that Kickstarter that made a bunch of money for the potato salad thing. If people want to donate, they can, which is a lot easier than going and asking people.

I’m hoping people will [donate], but it’s also totally fine if people don’t. I know if I saw something like this I’d be like, I want to help this person to make sure they live the life they want to live. It’s more time-sensitive than some of the other things that you see.

I heard the page got taken down for a bit. What happened?
We [initially] offered these rewards, expecting it would only be our friends that would see this. One of these rewards for $25 was Lücifer would make a custom edit of a photo. He’s really good at editing photographs, so for $25 [he would] make a custom edit of a photo of your choice. And then for $50 we’ll do your grocery shopping and give you a hug. Then for $100, we’d clean your house and as much clothing as you wanted. Which was a joke, an absolute joke, that we expected no one to take us up on.

But it did get a lot of attention and it also got a lot of like negative attention. Then people also objected to the language. So it was reported, and it got flagged for adult content. We emailed the people at GoFundMe and said, "That was a joke! We didn’t expect this kind of a response!" So GoFundMe took that off, and the page was able to go back up. I guess they thought we were serious and we weren’t.

There’ve been a lot of negative responses. How have you been taking them?
I expected to get negative responses. There are people who are really vocal. I was prepared, to a certain extent, to receive a lot of hate, or venom or even threats, but I have definitely been surprised. There have been moments when I almost had a panic attack or just was really, really taken aback at what kind of responses we’ve gotten: how many assumptions, how many projections, I guess how angry it makes people that this is something that we’re trying to do.

I’m sure you can see on the actual fundraiser, there’ve also been things I’ve seen on Facebook you wouldn’t see otherwise. Threads of 200 or 400 comments that are really hateful, or violent, or threatening. I’ve had a few people threaten to dox me, log my IP address, and find out where I live [so they can] come hurt me in some way, or come hurt Lüci. There have definitely been moments where we’ve been like, Holy ***. Really? Really?

Are you nervous about the procedure?
Yeah, I’m nervous. It’s scary. It’s a surgery. In Illinois it’s a two-day surgery. And it’s painful, like any surgery is going to be. It’s just an absolutely necessary thing, so I’m more nervous about running out of time than any pain.

According to the page, you’ve been having pregnancy complications, correct?
Yes.

Do you want to elaborate at all?
It’s just been really, really painful. Like I said, I just got the ultrasound done and haven’t really been to the doctor very much, so I can’t say there’s a specific condition, but I know that it’s worse than any menstrual cramps I’ve ever had. Sometimes the pain is so bad that I can’t get out of bed, and I can’t go to the bathroom. When I cough, it feels like my organs being shredded inside of me. For a second, I was afraid it was ectopic, because that’s supposed to be incredibly painful, but it’s not. I don’t know if there’s any medical terms for what it is, but it’s difficult.

I also saw on Facebook—again, sorry for stalking you—that you’re getting a kitten?
[Laughs] Yeah, actually. One of my friends just moved into a house, and they’re talking about getting a kitten. So it’s not actually gonna be my kitten, but it’s going to live in the same house that I stay at, so I’m going to pretend it’s my kitten.

Alright, Bailey. Thanks for talking with me.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-12 10:52:55
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Someone who's crowd funding their abortion dating someone named Lucifer?
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 10:54:12
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Someone who's crowd funding their abortion dating someone named Lucifer?

Hey Lucifer is too busy imprisoning souls in Hell to pay for an abortion.
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 10:58:47
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Breaking news Tom I found a picture of Lucifer:

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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-12 10:59:53
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Well now we know what they really want the money for...
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By fonewear 2014-09-12 11:01:18
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Also it begs the questions the Devil doesn't wear Prada but hipster glasses !
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