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2021 Mog Bonanza
Server: Odin
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Posts: 221
By Odin.Demhar 2021-02-04 11:25:45
What about RNG with KClub + Gandiva R15 (for all the DEX and STR) and HArrow lol
Pretty sure the TP bonus bow would push damage higher than Gandiva ever could (unless you hold TP to 3k that is). Most certainly. With KClub though you can afford WS over 2k tp. Not sure if it would be optimal though XD. 70DEX and 20STR is kinda a lot
By SimonSes 2021-02-04 11:37:28
I think kc wouldn't be good simply because offhand hits on WS are super important for this WS and with KC base damage they would do like half of damage assuming they would connect at all.
I think this sword would be mostly broken on RDM, BLU, THF, WAR. I will do some math later at night.
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By Asura.Kronkeykong 2021-02-04 11:48:50
Hello just to be clear I have actually started testing the Onion sword III on mobs with recommendations from a forum member on this site. I am now working on testing with boost spells (soon as I can find a WHM with 500 enhancing magic). I'll turn in my info to the number crunchers and try to help best I can if they need more info.
Can you offhand it?
Assuming you can’t but it’s super important info being able to skillchain with Naegling LOL
By SimonSes 2021-02-04 13:03:11
Asura.Kronkeykong said: »Hello just to be clear I have actually started testing the Onion sword III on mobs with recommendations from a forum member on this site. I am now working on testing with boost spells (soon as I can find a WHM with 500 enhancing magic). I'll turn in my info to the number crunchers and try to help best I can if they need more info.
Can you offhand it?
Assuming you can’t but it’s super important info being able to skillchain with Naegling LOL
I'm with contact with Sharkkie and asked him the same thing. You can't do Fast blade II with Onion in offhand.
He also have done some tests on lv1 mobs like I suggested and for now it looks like it's matches up jpwiki, but fTP at 3000 seems even slightly higher than 5.0 more like 5.2
He will probably post those results at some point so it can be double checked by other people.
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By Asura.Friedrik 2021-02-04 13:08:23
Can someone get some Dragon Blow data out there? I'm dying over here
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-02-05 01:18:35
using Japanese results with blu stats, since that's something I already have a module for and this set:
ItemSet 377941
Artificially capping accuracy and attack and random TP values between 1000 and 1500, I get an average of 29123.1479. Savage Blade using a pretty standard set under the same conditions with OB3 main I get about 29641.0768
Offhand Zantetsuken for any non-thibron case.
29123.1479 + 29641.0768 + 29641.0768 * 1.16 = 93147.873788 (OB3)
26684.9041 + 26684.9041 + 26684.9041 * 1.16 = 84324.296956 (Tizona)
30378.7993 + 30378.7993 + 30378.7993 * 1.16 = 95997.005788 (Almace)
That would put it about 10% better than Tizona two step and about 3% worse than almace two step
Without Thibron, capped attack AND accuracy, it isn't worth considering over current options.
Three stepping FB2 > Savage > CDC is worse if you are able to perform 3 two steps vs 2 three steps.
By SimonSes 2021-02-05 02:37:39
Do you model offhand hits and offhand MA proc on WS with lowered base damage from Thibron?
I assume thats Tizona 2step with CDC>CDC? I think Almace offhand would do better than Zant then no?
I also assume you limited this to light 2steps only? Because otherwise Requiescat > Expiacion with Tizona could probably beat all of those. I also think that at some point between 2000 and 3000TP, +2 neck and Sailfi/winbuffet+1 could beat Fotia options for FBII.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-02-05 03:22:14
Do you model offhand hits and offhand MA proc on WS with lowered base damage from Thibron? yes
assume thats Tizona 2step with CDC>CDC? I think Almace offhand would do better than Zant then no? i never bothered to put almace offhand in my equipment, and wanted to keep the variable the same anyways
Using Almace offhand would be about 28272.5911 + 28272.5911 + 28272.5911 * 1.16 = 89341.387876
I also assume you limited this to light 2steps only? Because otherwise Requiescat > Expiacion with Tizona could probably beat all of those With Thibron offhand it would be a little better than CDC, but not many mobs are going to take the same damage from both elements so I was only comparing light initially. It also drops off quickly without capping attack.
10609.0731 + 37659.2385 + 37659.2385 * 1.16 = 91953.02826
I also think that at some point between 2000 and 3000TP, +2 neck and Sailfi/winbuffet+1 could beat Fotia options for FBII. Yeah, probably a little bit
I think the weapon is better served with two DD, one using FB2 and the second using Savage with Naegling. Particularly two of the same job so the acc requirements are similar if utilizing thibron offhand.
By SimonSes 2021-02-05 03:30:26
Using Almace offhand would be about 28272.5911 + 28272.5911 + 28272.5911 * 1.16 = 89341.387876
Taking WS frequency into consideration, Tizona/Almace probably wins or break even for cdc spam then? Do you have whole dps simulation? Unless maybe AM3 can pull Almace ahead in some glass cannon max damage tp set.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-02-05 03:32:34
not for DW jobs yet, I've been lazy about it.
I think almace is pretty underrated, but hard to give up the MP recovery for DPS in most scenarios.
other jobs that get savage natively, specifically corsair, will get a lot of benefit from it, though. rdm too i think, since it lacks the crit damage that blu can get or other strong closer, and can still use tp bonus situationally.. fencer war, and tp bonus axe offhand situationally.
By SimonSes 2021-02-05 07:41:03
Fusion WS is one thing, but it can also easily be the strongest WS on BLU (like 2 hits, 100%DEX WSC with transfered 4.0 fTP for example)
It's funny how close I was with this XD
By LucentThePLD 2021-02-07 14:12:28
Glad to see Sharkkie is coming through for everyone. Apologies for anybody who was waiting on information from me, but life hit me pretty hard recently.
Or technically, I rear-ended life (according to the police report).
Valefor.Maurauc
Server: Valefor
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By Valefor.Maurauc 2021-02-09 04:41:01
We're baaaack!
Pearl sales period: Thursday, February 11, 2021, at 12:00 a.m. (PST) to Thursday, March 11 at the same hour.
Winning numbers announced: Monday, April 12, 2021, at 1:00 a.m. (PDT)
Collection period: Monday, April 12, 2021, at 1:00 a.m. (PDT) to Friday, April 30, at 7:59 a.m.
Chocobo Knife DMG:121 Delay:176 AGI+30
Accuracy+40 Magic Accuracy+40
Evasion+40 Magic Evasion+40
Dagger skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Haste+10% "Resist Slow"+90
Movement speed +18%
Lv. 99~ RDM THF BRD RNG DNC
Diamond Aspis DEF:135 VIT+30
Accuracy+40 Magic Accuracy+40
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+30
Evasion+30 Magic Evasion+30
Shield skill +129
Extends the duration of standard abilities used on self by +25%
Increases Skillchain duration
LV. 99~ WAR WHM RDM THF PLD BST
Flametongue DMG:187 Delay:264
STR+30 Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
Sword skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Physical damage limit +5%
Weapon skill STR +10%
Occasionally absorbs fire damage
Additional effect: Fire damage
Lv. 99~ WAR RDM PLD BLU
Mutsu-no-Kami Yoshiyuki DMG:310 Delay:450
STR+30 Accuracy+40
Ranged Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
Great Katana skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Increases "Counter" damage based on the number of "Third Eye" evasions
Skillchain: Increases the number of "Third Eye" evasions during Seigan by 1
Lv. 99~ SAM
Hebo's Spear DMG:339 Delay:492 MND+30
Accuracy+40 Magic Accuracy+40
Polearm skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Weapon skill MND +10%
Occasionally absorbs water damage
Additional effect: Water damage
All Jumps: Recover Wyvern HP
Wyvern: "Regen"+5
Lv. 99~ DRG
Premium Heart DMG:+172 Delay:+96
STR+30 Accuracy+40
Hand-to-Hand skill +269
Guarding skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
"Chakra" potency +50%
Counter: Reduces "Chakra" cast time by 1 second
Pet: Accuracy+40
Ranged Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
Lv. 99~ MNK PUP
Save the Queen III DMG:182 Delay:264 MND+30
Accuracy+40 Magic Accuracy+40
Sword skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Enmity+10 "Cover" duration +30
"Cure" potency II +20%
"Cover": Reduces "Sentinel" cast time by 1 second
Lv. 99~ PLD
Yagyu Darkblade DMG:156 Delay:227
DEX+30 Accuracy+40
Ranged Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
Katana skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
"Utsusemi" effect extends to an area
"Utsusemi": Shadow image of party member -2
Lv. 99~ NIN
Brave Blade III DMG:331 Delay:480
STR+30 Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
"Magic Def. Bonus"+10
Great Sword skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Increases physical damage limit based on enmity
Lv. 99~ PLD DRK RUN
Wizard's Rod DMG:149 Delay:216 INT+30
Magic Accuracy+40
"Magic Atk. Bonus"+40
Magic Damage +263
Club skill +269
Parrying skill +269
Magic Accuracy skill +269
Inflicts Magic burst damage based on skillchain duration
Elemental magic: Occasionally casts spells without using MP
Lv. 99~ BLM RED SCH GEO
Exeter DMG:150 Delay:600 AGI+30
Ranged Accuracy+40
Magic Accuracy+40
Marksmanship skill +269
"Store TP"+10
Ammunition that can be stacked will not be consumed
Lv. 99~ RNG COR
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By Asura.Cordyfox 2021-02-09 05:43:16
Gonna have a real hard time not choosing between Flametongue and the Diamond Aspis when I don't win. Yagyu's AoE Utsusemi is interesting, certainly could've used that during the Qutrub Ambuscade. Not sure how much it'd change in the Real World, though.
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By Ragnarok.Nightmarelord 2021-02-09 05:53:04
if i were to win, hands down, IM GOING NINJA WEAPON.
that ***is game changing.
its 2003 again boys.
(anyone who remembers utsusemi before it got patched remembers when ninjas were op af in the dunes due to utsusemi tanking all the stuff EVEN AOE MAGICS)
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By SimonSes 2021-02-09 06:17:53
Shield is OP. Full time Berserk without Berserk recast merits, longer Warcry, Blood Rage, Haste Samba from /dnc. Full time Killer Instinct(?). Also very good for JA from sub, like Berserk from /war or Pflug from RUN. Also great stats for magic WSs. That longer skillchain duration is cheery on the cake. Kinda ironic BST finally gets great shield walled by *** bonanza.
Chocobo Knife is great as defensive offhand, but not worth it when you can only choose one..
Katana is OP and I can already see Logical being both excited and frustrated.
Brave Blade III can be OP or trash, because something like +50% PDL on DRK could be OP for Resolution spam with right buffs.
Flametongue another great offhand, but wont beat Thibron for 95% of the game.
Wizard's Rod is nice ofc, but its nothing unique, just more stats. Unless this Occ casts spells without using MP is like 50% rate. Also probably the best for SCH, because you can focus more on pure MAB/macc in MB set maybe if that Magic burst bonus is big enough (RDM and BLM would probably still Ea +1 anyway).
By SimonSes 2021-02-09 06:18:54
Ragnarok.Nightmarelord said: »if i were to win, hands down, IM GOING NINJA WEAPON.
that ***is game changing.
its 2003 again boys.
(anyone who remembers utsusemi before it got patched remembers when ninjas were op af in the dunes due to utsusemi tanking all the stuff EVEN AOE MAGICS)
you sure you understood what you was reading? It doesnt make it block AoE. It makes Utsusemi applies to party members.
Fenrir.Ramzus
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2021-02-09 06:25:52
Just got FF12 PTSD from Yagyu Darkblade
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Bahamut.Omegus
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By Bahamut.Omegus 2021-02-09 06:31:24
SE still pushing Tankurai i see
Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2021-02-09 06:36:12
See how they put the Shield and Save the Queen on the same raffle.....
EDIT: because people would have won 2 1st on the same character anyways.
By SimonSes 2021-02-09 06:37:33
See how they put the Shield and Save the Queen on the same raffle.....
You will win one on main and other on alt. Be a little optimistic.
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VIP
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2021-02-09 06:38:20
The real shame is the ones from last time did not come back (instrument)... Next bonanza hopefully we get a kupon.
By SimonSes 2021-02-09 06:40:37
The real shame is the ones from last time did not come back (instrument)... Next bonanza hopefully we get a kupon.
The real shame is they are behind Bonanza. Who cares if stuff from previous bonanza is here. You will statistically win one bonanza out of 999. *** this..
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-02-09 06:41:57
SE really missed the boat on Exeter. RNG already caps Recycle with just traits/merits/relic+3 head. Now, had it worked with the DI ammunition, we'd have quite the interesting weapon. Pair that gun with the Hauksbrok Bullet, and you'd have a gun/ammo pairing with slightly lower base damage than Armageddon, STP+10, AGI+70, and MAB+30.
Then there would be some very interesting debates, indeed.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-09 07:01:10
Damn dat shield doe.
And, of course, the spear is incredibly mediocre.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2021-02-09 07:06:04
Damn dat shield doe.
And, of course, the spear is incredibly mediocre.
ok serious question that bugged me with the Ambu 1 dmg "polearm" of the same model as this Bonanza prize- how in the blue hell does SE get away with a circular bladed weapon being piercing????
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-02-09 07:14:12
If i won rank1 id be very tempted at the gun just for a lockstyle piece, it looks amazing and should have been Fomals model.
By Draylo 2021-02-09 07:38:29
What the heck, these weapons are so weird. They even creating new models for them, this is where their resources are going I guess.
Asura.Aessk
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By Asura.Aessk 2021-02-09 08:01:15
The real winner is DRG. Finally a polearm to use with all those MND based weaposkills! ...
Hey guys found out I won rank 1 but not I'm at an impasse. From all the rank 1 weapons, what do you think is worth picking? The one's the stand out to me most (since I play RDM and WHM the most) is Ice Brand for RDM INT debuffs, also BLU nukes and Sage's Staff for (lol WHM Nuking) and style lock....
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