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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-04 00:43:33
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I just got XI, (didn't notice eactly when during this run bet i just did 2 NMs 2 halos and guardians, 2 mob groups and 5 chests with points so it shouldn't be far from the stats at the end):
Moogle Mastery X
62 NMs (all unique nm's)
1321 Nostos
199 chests
21 coffers
2 aurum

Bismarck.Bigheadkitty said: »
Siren.Codegen said: »
Got Moogle Mastery 10 on the 55th NM I killed, on a solo run with no chests opened that ended with 57 nms and 1168 nostos.
Moogle Mastery X
55 NMs (all unique nm's)
1145 Nostos
103 chests
7 coffers
1 aurum
Siren.Codegen said: »
Got Moogle Mastery 9 on the 48th NM I killed, one of many repeated ones after already getting all unique ones before VII:
Moogle Mastery IX
48 NMs (all unique nm's)
1020 Nostos
73 chests
3 coffers

my previous stats were
Moogle Mastery VIII
36 NMs (all unique nm's)
751 Nostos
16 chests
2 coffers

Moogle Mastery VII
31 NMs (all unique nm's)
651 Nostos
4 chests

so I still think it's a point system rather than gating, and NMs are just worth the most so often a level up happens with the, but I got a levelup on a chest and one on a nostos before too.

This is probably a dumb question but BGwiki shows only 16 NMs and alot of these posts say unique NMs 32 or 48? Can you pop mobs not listed on the wiki?
btw Bigheadkitty I meant all unique nms defeated, plus repeats, so there are only 16 NMs, I was adding that detail because there was some question about whether some level unlock required all unique ones to have been defeated at least once
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-04 01:18:58
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geigei said: »
Looks like there is some hidden criteria to lv up MM.

Char 1 MM X
1552 nostos
66 nm's
250 chests
32 coffers
3 aurums

Char 2 MM XI
1515 nostos
66 nm's
250 chests
30 coffers
2 aurums

All nm's are killed at least 3 times on both.
things that are not counted in the status report are halo/beastmen and mimics. Also possibly the higher levels of nostos/nms at higher floors.

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MMXII is after 4 NM X 6, tested and confirmed on 4 Players.
Might be required/gating but not sufficient, I am at 11 and already have at least 4 NMs with at least 6 repeated wins (highest is 9)
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By geigei 2020-05-04 02:18:40
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Siren.Codegen said: »
things that are not counted in the status report are halo/beastmen and mimics. Also possibly the higher levels of nostos/nms at higher floors.
Everything except thf solo runs was shared between those characters, the only different thing i can think of is clicking on exit, some runs i couldn't get everyone to click on the thingy.
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By alamihgo 2020-05-04 03:45:29
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Why sword when LS->AE->LS does the same thing, and faster/safer with a rostam?
Single target.
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By SimonSes 2020-05-04 04:36:32
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alamihgo said: »
Afania said: »
Why sword when LS->AE->LS does the same thing, and faster/safer with a rostam?
Single target.

Irrelevant? You wouldnt fight NM in middle of mobs anyway. Afania is right that AE is much better choice here.
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By Asura.Valeena 2020-05-04 05:38:36
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Siren.Codegen said: »
geigei said: »
Looks like there is some hidden criteria to lv up MM.

Char 1 MM X
1552 nostos
66 nm's
250 chests
32 coffers
3 aurums

Char 2 MM XI
1515 nostos
66 nm's
250 chests
30 coffers
2 aurums

All nm's are killed at least 3 times on both.
things that are not counted in the status report are halo/beastmen and mimics. Also possibly the higher levels of nostos/nms at higher floors.

zigzagzig said: »
MMXII is after 4 NM X 6, tested and confirmed on 4 Players.
Might be required/gating but not sufficient, I am at 11 and already have at least 4 NMs with at least 6 repeated wins (highest is 9)


I got MM XI when we opened an Aurum chest (can't remember the number, but we're close to 40 now).
And like Zig said, we all got MM XII with our 4th NM killed 6 time in a row. Each of us got it like that, even on different runs.

So If I make a guess, you'll need to try to get the number of Aurum up, that should get you up to requirement.
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By Sylph.Reain 2020-05-06 23:14:17
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Got Moogle Mastery XIII.

Looks like it was 8 NMs 6 times.
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By Sylph.Reain 2020-05-07 20:45:37
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Got Moogle Mastery XIV after 12 NM at x6 kills.
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-10 14:07:11
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still at 11 with 6 NMs at 6+ kills,
NM kills are 9,6,6,6,6,6,5,5,4,3,3,2,2,2,1,1
chests 240, coffers 26, aurum 4
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By Sylph.Reain 2020-05-10 21:28:35
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Got Moogle Mastery XV at 16 NMs 6x.

All nostos: 3670
Tipuli: 9
Brachys: 7
Dione: 8
Gloios: 7
Damysus: 7
Aegypius: 28
Salmandra: 8
Ailuros: 8
Megaera: 7
Eurytus: 8
Harpe: 9
Kusarikku: 6
Leucippe: 7
Cynara: 8
Ptelea: 7
Physis: 11
Chests: 250
Coffers: 89
Aurum Strongbox: 19
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By geigei 2020-05-11 02:26:33
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Sylph.Reain said: »
Aegypius: 28
*** this bird in particular.
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-12 23:13:44
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got MM 12 with 8 NMs at 6+ kills,
NM kills are 9,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,5,3,3,3,2,2,2,2
chests 240, coffers 26, aurum 4

Maybe the mastery points are independent, there is a +1 at 6 NMs at 6+ and another at 8 at 6+, but it doesn't have to be MM11 or 12 specifically because maybe I was missing some +1 point from chest/coffer/aurum or nostos thresholds compared to Reain?
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-14 01:27:40
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Also I was noticing now at MM12 floor 1-3 take 1 material to pop for me and floor 4 takes 2.
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By SimonSes 2020-05-14 05:07:03
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Siren.Codegen said: »
Also I was noticing now at MM12 floor 1-3 take 1 material to pop for me and floor 4 takes 2.

I think thats not MM, but its affected by how many times you popped NMs.
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-15 21:43:15
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still MM 12 with 11 NMs at 6+ kills,
NM kills are 9,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,4,4,3,3,2
chests 240, coffers 26, aurum 4
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-18 02:26:16
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I just got Moogle Mastery XIII exactly on the 12 NM at 6+
Siren.Codegen said: »
still MM 12 with 11 NMs at 6+ kills,
NM kills are 9,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,4,4,3,3,2
chests 240, coffers 26, aurum 4
Sylph.Reain said: »
Got Moogle Mastery XIII.
Looks like it was 8 NMs 6 times.
Sylph.Reain said: »
Got Moogle Mastery XIV after 12 NM at x6 kills.
So it seems like an extra point there must be coming from chest/coffer/strongbox or possibly nostos kills.
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-23 16:20:47
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got moogle mastery 14 at 15 NMs at 6+ kill, only have 1 NM at 5 kills and 2 at 7 kills and 1 at 10 kills. 33 coffers and 4 aurum.


Siren.Codegen said: »
I just got Moogle Mastery XIII exactly on the 12 NM at 6+
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still MM 12 with 11 NMs at 6+ kills,
NM kills are 9,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,4,4,3,3,2
chests 240, coffers 26, aurum 4
Sylph.Reain said: »
Got Moogle Mastery XIII.
Looks like it was 8 NMs 6 times.
Sylph.Reain said: »
Got Moogle Mastery XIV after 12 NM at x6 kills.
So it seems like an extra point there must be coming from chest/coffer/strongbox or possibly nostos kills.
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By Sylph.Reain 2020-05-23 16:36:23
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I think you'll need Aurum Strongbox x16 to get Moogle Mastery XV.
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By Siren.Codegen 2020-05-23 19:12:44
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thanks, yes since I solo it I have to alternate between monk to do as many NMs as I can and thf to get coffers and aurums, I guess I'll be going as THF for a while...
 
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By geigei 2020-05-25 10:51:28
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All nm's killed 6 times BUT one, only 3 aurum = mm14.
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Dridian42 said: »
1. Aegypius 20
2. Ailuros 6
3. Brachys 1
4. Cynara 1
5. Damysus 1
6. Dione 2
7. Eurytus 1
8. Gloios 1
9. Harpe 2
10. Kusarikku 1
11. Leucippe 3
12. Megaera 1
13. Physis 1
14. Ptelea 1
15. Salamandra 1
16. Tipuli 1
Total Kills = 61
that's 44, not 61
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By Asura.Valeena 2020-05-26 06:38:27
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Have you noticed the number of Unity items asked for each floor gets lower with the total NM killed in Sheol A ?

When we hit 150 NM killed in total, We got in unity material cost :
Pop floor 7 : 14 items
Pop floor 6 : 9 items
Pop floor 5 : 4 items
All others floors : 1 item.

Before 150 killed, all the numbers of floor 7,6 and 5 were incremented by 1.
And roughly before 120 NM killed, it was still one more, a floor 5 pop cost 6 unity items, a floor 6 pop cost 11 unity items.


Edit : tonight run, it got lower : Floor 5 pop cost 3 items, while floor 6 pop cost 8 items. 170 NM killed in total
 
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By zigzagzig 2020-05-27 14:05:37
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Wow, this must a be a hell of a good group.....

You guys rock hard <3
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By Aquatiq 2020-05-27 16:37:49
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Is Odyssey, which I am currently ignoring, the next thing we'll be kicking ourselves for not having done every single day before they made it worthwhile (like deeds 4 Monberaux)
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By FaeQueenCory 2020-05-27 17:59:14
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Is Odyssey, which I am currently ignoring, the next thing we'll be kicking ourselves for not having done every single day before they made it worthwhile (like deeds 4 Monberaux)
At most you'll possibly be content locked out from being able to do paths B/C/D before completing the path A. (likely tied to completion of the RoE, like the augments)

As for rewards, it's UCNM gear.
Look at it. Imagine it with 2~3 augments, one of which for armors is +10 to all base stats.

However.
They have said that there will also be nonUCNM gear that will drop from it. As to what that means, it could be anywhere from a point system like DI... or they add gear to all the NM's drop tables.... or path "D" is where the gear comes from.

So be sure to get you +1 UCNM items that look like they might be good for you, and be sure to complete that Path A RoE.

Beyond that, at this time, it's just the augments.
 
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By Asura.Geriond 2020-06-09 23:29:54
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MMXIV
Nostos: 6695
Tipuli: 6
Brachys: 6
Dione: 6
Gloios: 6
Damysus: 6
Aegypius: 6
Salmandra: 6
Ailuros: 6
Megaera: 36
Eurytos: 6
Harpe: 6
Kusarikku: 7
Leucippe: 6
Cynara: 6
Ptelea: 6
Physis: 6
Chests: 158
Coffers: 55
Aurum Strongboxes: 1

Currently working on Aurums, to see if that's what's keeping me from MMXV.
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