See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME"
There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it.
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Nausi said: » Garuda.Chanti said: » Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: » Was a reason ever provided for why the white house decided to delay the foreign aid in the first place? Sounds odd. Ukraine was instrumental in the corruption of the 2016 election. Trump wanted to make sure zalinsky was the real deal before he handed over the money. This is evidenced by the indictment regarding Burisma and hunter biden that came out today. Trump wanted to make sure that the aid wasn’t going to line anyones pockets. So he waited until he could verify Zalinski was serious about his campaign promises of transparency. The delay did not violate any law, and it was not conditional on any investigation per the testimony of every person called so far. This is all fake, especially the part about Ukraine being a part of the 2016 election. They didn't do anything. Its nice tho that nausi is admitting the money was delayed, seems like he abandoned that particular talking point that it wasn't. Nausi said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » oh! the new dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life "The American people aren't stupid" Quote: Think about this: think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that. Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. That's what I said. Delaying the aid itself isn't a crime. What he attached to it made it the crime.
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Nausi said: » Garuda.Chanti said: » Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: » Was a reason ever provided for why the white house decided to delay the foreign aid in the first place? Sounds odd. Ukraine was instrumental in the corruption of the 2016 election. Trump wanted to make sure zalinsky was the real deal before he handed over the money. This is evidenced by the indictment regarding Burisma and hunter biden that came out today. Trump wanted to make sure that the aid wasn’t going to line anyones pockets. So he waited until he could verify Zalinski was serious about his campaign promises of transparency. The delay did not violate any law, and it was not conditional on any investigation per the testimony of every person called so far. On Sept. 24 Trump told the UN that he had frozen the money to put pressure on European allies and other countries to contribute more money to Ukraine Asura.Eiryl said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. That's what I said. Delaying the aid itself isn't a crime. What he attached to it made it the crime. I'm sure you are an expert on the topic. In fact you probably wrote the law that Trump violated.
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Anyways Donny is here to keep things under control. Carry on.
clearlyamule said: » Are political rivals no immune to investigation then? I don't think so but if Trump it does it probably illegal. Hillary Clinton does it perfectly acceptable.
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Asura.Eiryl said: » Nausi said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » oh! the new dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life "The American people aren't stupid" Quote: Think about this: think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that. I just assume everyone is stupid. That way I'm never disappointed.
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I assume everyone here doesn't know anything about politics or religion.
Or are bored about talking about FFXI.
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The last thing you would want to do is learn something. This isn't a classroom and I"m not paying attention.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » Nausi said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » oh! the new dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life "The American people aren't stupid" Quote: Think about this: think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of 'em are stupider than that. I just assume everyone is stupid. That way I'm never disappointed. I'm a Dumass YouTube Video Placeholder
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Asura.Eiryl said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. That's what I said. Delaying the aid itself isn't a crime. What he attached to it made it the crime. Absolutely no case.
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Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. If we only had politicians who never abused their powers, we would have no politicians. But when Orange Man (supposedly) abuses his powers? That's when everyone loses their freaking minds.
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Josiahafk said: » Nausi said: » Garuda.Chanti said: » Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: » Was a reason ever provided for why the white house decided to delay the foreign aid in the first place? Sounds odd. Ukraine was instrumental in the corruption of the 2016 election. Trump wanted to make sure zalinsky was the real deal before he handed over the money. This is evidenced by the indictment regarding Burisma and hunter biden that came out today. Trump wanted to make sure that the aid wasn’t going to line anyones pockets. So he waited until he could verify Zalinski was serious about his campaign promises of transparency. The delay did not violate any law, and it was not conditional on any investigation per the testimony of every person called so far. On Sept. 24 Trump told the UN that he had frozen the money to put pressure on European allies and other countries to contribute more money to Ukraine He did not want to be the only country funding a corrupt government (if Zalinski was indeed corrupt).
Bahamut.Ravael said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. If we only had politicians who never abused their powers, we would have no politicians. But when Orange Man (supposedly) abuses his powers? That's when everyone loses their freaking minds. he got caught. That's the difference maker. We're all "comfortable" knowing illegal things happen all day every day. and you can do them, just don't get caught. That's the rule
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fonewear said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. I'm sure you will post proof of this...nah you will just assume you are right and be a smug *** about it. Asura.Eiryl said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. If we only had politicians who never abused their powers, we would have no politicians. But when Orange Man (supposedly) abuses his powers? That's when everyone loses their freaking minds. he got caught. That's the difference maker. We're all "comfortable" knowing illegal things happen all day every day. and you can do them, just don't get caught. That's the rule Nausi said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. That's what I said. Delaying the aid itself isn't a crime. What he attached to it made it the crime. Absolutely no case. Nausi said: » fonewear said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. I'm sure you will post proof of this...nah you will just assume you are right and be a smug *** about it. No he can't, there is no treaty that allows a President to leverage financial aid and a WH visit in exchange for an investigation into his political rival. There was nothing vindicating Trump today, it was a terrible day for the GOP. They tried to zero in on a phone call that took place on September 9th, 4 months after the pressure campaign started. It didn't work. "Was there a quid quo pro? The answer is yes. Everyone was in the loop, it was no secret. The President directed us to do so."
I "allegedly" don't give a ***a.
But I am a sucker for hearsay and conjecture.
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Viciouss said: » "Was there a quid quo pro? The answer is yes. Everyone was in the loop, it was no secret. The President directed us to do so." Who are you quoting yourself ?
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Viciouss said: » Asura.Eiryl said: » See all of that is true, except that he had to be a dumbass and make it look like he wanted personal gain from it. Trump is ALWAYS about "ME" There's nothing illegal about what he did, aside from the fact that trump is trump and a moron. he HAD to (try) to get something for himself out of it. Delaying the aid because he wanted an investigation into his political rival is actually a crime. Its a clear abuse of power. If we only had politicians who never abused their powers, we would have no politicians. But when Orange Man (supposedly) abuses his powers? That's when everyone loses their freaking minds. All Presidents abuse power. It is mostly because Congress doesn't do anything. Want to be mad at someone tell Congress to actually do something.
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