New Impeachment Scam Thread. Nice People Only.

He who denies it, supplies it.

Vindman is falling apart in this thing.

Claims to never have met the whistleblower yet schiff has to step in to make sure he doesn’t name them (because schiff knows who it is despite lying and claiming otherwise)

Vindman was solid throughout. First hand account of the quid pro quo, didn't allow the Republicans to smear him at all. Their questions were way off topic, even bringing up the conspiracy theorist John Soloman. They are getting more and more desperate.

Who was the rep that broke out the "3500 pages and they never mentioned bribe"

That might be the single dumbest thing said so far, in an ever increasing pile of some of the dumbest ***I've ever heard.

Vindman’s reasoning for thinking it was a demand was that he believes the Ukrainian President is subservient to ours, therefore when Trump asked for a favor, it was really a demand.

Stick a fork in Vindman, hes done.

Ratliffe, a Republican from Texas. It meant absolutely nothing. Its not the job of the witness to define the crime, thats on the investigators. The witnesses are there to tell us what happened.

It's been fun to watch the GOP scramble to publicly out the whistleblower, because reasons. The public doesn't need to know the person that accurately reported an inappropriate phone call that helped start this investigation. It doesn't change the facts of the case.

/yawn. Is Glormpf gone yet?

Trump literally falling on his sword !

Also according to CNN Trump had about 30 heart attacks yesterday but miraculously seems ok today.

I just don't understand. Based on what the media tells me, I should have already woken up in a field of flowers and rainbows with Hillary Clinton as President and a million dollars in my pocket redistributed from some random billionaire. Why am I still waking up in literal Nazi Germany where I have to actually go to work every day to support the lavish lifestyles of rich Republicans, all while Orange Man is literally killing poor minorities, old people, and children every day? The world needs more honest, hardworking heroes like Adam Schiff to save us and fly us away to our liberal paradise. You know, like Detroit or something.

Nothing like coming to ffxiah for some straw man being spammed all day long.

Barns and Politics and Religions subforum

Do you have anything to add on the topic, or are you going to bemoan everyone else's behavior as usual?

Oh boy oh boy the Horowitz report dropped. It is very bad for the credibility of the FBI and FISA warrants related to Trump and his campaign.
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/a20009.pdf

Press ctrl+f and search for results in brief, if you don't want to read the whole thing.

From what I can tell, that's just a standard audit report. The results don't look great, but I see anything about FISA. I believe the Horowitz report is coming out Dec. 11.

*posts a huge paragraph straw manning an argument of pettiness as provocation*
*claims I don't add anything to the topic by calling him out on it*

if my post added nothing to the topic, your post above it actively detracted from the topic. Like all of the other posts straw-manning dialogue here purely for provocation. Interestingly enough one sees this happening here a lot more from republican posters than dems. And then in turm usually see multiple other republican posters encouraging further straw-manning. Part of why you'll never come across me rating up this kind of dialogue (from either side.)

At the very least in the "nice thread," we should keep the straw man arguments to a minimum.

Oh don't you worry. We have two more days of hearings yet and that's just this week.

It WILL get stupider.

Well Mr. Thread Police, putting your clear bias aside, you might be standing on a higher moral ground if you didn't post a meme with profanity on this very page, thus breaking site rules. I think those rate higher than the "nice" requirement in the thread title.

Donny if you ever post something worth reading...we will let you know.

Some guy from Canada is going to be the authority figure on American politics.

Donny is like a child that wonders into PnR to post some thing he found on the internet he thinks is funny...but it isn't. But he keeps trying I'll give him that !

wanders *

I mean, what else is there to do in November in Canada? Either way, it's vastly more interesting to post in here than it is to watch those hearings.

But really other than complain what exactly do you do here ?

I mean you don't like Republicans or Democrats...hell you probably don't even like America...so what exactly is your point ?

My comedic posts are not relevant to the request Rooks gave us Rav, which are also far less provocative than consistent straw-manning. You can also easily scroll through any P&R thread here and count the amount of posts engaging in that kind of fallacy if you see that distinction as bias on my part.



You can always block me if you consider my posts unworthy to be read. That is irrelevant to me seeing as there has been no genuine dialogue partaken by you and I to be lost in the future.

Regardless if you consider me an authority on topics you come up with, I usually only engage in behavioural ones that are relevant to my interests.

The point was unrelated to if I dislike or like your country, it was referring to dialogue this site has deemed in poor taste and requested we tone down.

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I'm not even sure what you're going on about here. I was referring to a particular site rule, which you broke, and which I can quote:


If you read the complete rules, you'll note how "consistent straw-manning" is nowhere on that list (even when it's satire from an evil conservative). If you have any questions as to which is worse, feel free to PM Rooks.

Now, I'm not going to go crying to a mod about it and heaven knows Chanti got away with worse in the last thread, but it just seems really disingenuous to hear you talk about the integrity of the thread when you're flagrantly breaking rules for the sake of your "comedic" posts.

I'm referring to the reason the random P&R thread was locked. Didnt mean to be vague or confuse I just thought it would be fresh in your memory.


the rule I am breaking gets a single post deleted or a single user a warning.

The "rules" I'm referring to would get the entire subforum deleted if we can't "play nice" wouldnt you say that's a bit more important and relevant?

I know without a doubt Roooks wouldnt delete a thread or a subforum just for my dumb posts and I didnt think it would offend anyone here, seeing as how it makes fun of both sides of the argument. I can gladly delete though just on principle for the vulgarity.