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By Squabble 2018-02-09 00:26:45
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Yea, says I need to update still.
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By Yzzerdd 2018-02-09 00:27:17
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Having trouble here, getting an error saying the game's data has been updated and I must re download it even though I already have.
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By Sylph.Dravidian 2018-02-09 00:27:28
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Next we are going to be told evis breaks damage cap
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-02-09 00:28:23
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Sylph.Dravidian said: »
Next we are going to be told evis breaks damage cap
with 8 Bards, 17 Geos and 54 Cor you can!
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By Marootsoobootsu 2018-02-09 00:31:40
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Wait...why not?
He doesn't understand skillchains

I'm not always, or even often, skill-chaining alone. I use evisceration when the time comes for it, but it's no where near 1/3 of all of my skillchains. Mandalic and Rudra's properties are better with the usual CORs and RUNs I play with.
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By Afania 2018-02-09 00:32:47
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Sylph.Dravidian said: »
Next we are going to be told evis breaks damage cap
with 8 Bards, 17 Geos and 54 Cor you can!

Once upon a time, my pirate crew has 54 pirates, 17 navigators, 8 singers/entertainers and 1 lovely princess thf.
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By Bismarck.Ringoko 2018-02-09 00:34:28
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Afania said: »
Bahamut.Negan said: »
Sylph.Dravidian said: »
Next we are going to be told evis breaks damage cap
with 8 Bards, 17 Geos and 54 Cor you can!

Once upon a time, my pirate crew has 54 pirates, 17 navigators, 8 singer/entertainers and 1 lovely princess thf.

Were those entertainers Dancers or like comedians?
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-02-09 00:35:09
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Afania said: »
1 lovely princess thf.
RAWR!
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-09 00:36:09
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
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are we 100% sure this month is gonna be sch and smn parties for ambuscade vol 1 is this a repeat of a previous month ??

We have basically zero information on this month's ambuscade. Wait until we have information rather than clueless speculation.

Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
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Sure, if you're multi-stepping use Evis. Otherwise Rudra's damage potential far outweighs it.

In most situations the difference between Evis and Rudra's shouldn't matter or you should be multi-stepping.

With basically perfect gear for both WSs, I get about 40% superior damage with Rudra, so I can't agree with the difference not mattering.

If you're killing things before the double darkness damage comes into play, I don't see how that 40% matters.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2018-02-09 00:36:54
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
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With basically perfect gear for both WSs, I get about 40% superior damage with Rudra, so I can't agree with the difference not mattering.

You're holding tp too long if you see that much more damage and/or your evis set isn't as bis as you think it is.

Basically firing WSs at as close to 1k as possible, not factoring in overflow from the round that gets me to 1k+, with Aeneas.

Never seen even comparable damage between the two. I can post sets if needed, but I'm honestly not sure where the two are even close, at least considering Aeneas. Without it, I'd definitely understand.
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By Lakshmi.Jutubyaa 2018-02-09 00:38:04
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did a full verify files with POL, didn't fix the issue with logging in.

edit: full verify of FFXI files with POL
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 00:38:39
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I say that it will be SCH and SMN onry, based on 2 logical assumptions

1 its asura, everything is smn onry.

2 the aoe that dullahans do is insane for dd parties + shield blocks + intimidation
reference; reisenjima t1

It could have a melee friendly gimmick, but being realistic here
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By Sylph.Oraen 2018-02-09 00:40:06
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
Bismarck.Vize said: »
are we 100% sure this month is gonna be sch and smn parties for ambuscade vol 1 is this a repeat of a previous month ??

We have basically zero information on this month's ambuscade. Wait until we have information rather than clueless speculation.

Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
Sure, if you're multi-stepping use Evis. Otherwise Rudra's damage potential far outweighs it.

In most situations the difference between Evis and Rudra's shouldn't matter or you should be multi-stepping.

With basically perfect gear for both WSs, I get about 40% superior damage with Rudra, so I can't agree with the difference not mattering.

If you're killing things before the double darkness damage comes into play, I don't see how that 40% matters.

Sure, if you're skillchaining, I get it, but 9/10 times I'm on THF it's a melee zerg and I'm solely focused on per-WS damage. Setting up multi-steps, the drop in per-WS damage is more than justifiable.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-02-09 00:40:25
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
the aoe that dullahans do is insane for dd parties
reference; reisenjima t1

It could have a melee friendly gimmick, but being realistic here
I hope to god that gimmick isn't run away to 30 every 5%
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By Staleyx 2018-02-09 00:41:20
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Were those entertainers Dancers or like comedians?

Love the avatar.
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By Yzzerdd 2018-02-09 00:42:20
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Lakshmi.Jutubyaa said: »
did a full verify files with POL, didn't fix the issue with logging in.

edit: full verify of FFXI files with POL

So I think it's official that the game is bonk until someone at SE tries logging in. ; ;
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-09 00:42:54
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
Sure, if you're skillchaining, I get it, but 9/10 times I'm on THF it's a melee zerg and I'm solely focused on per-WS damage. Setting up multi-steps, the drop in per-WS damage is more than justifiable.

I think that got lost in translation somewhere in the chain. The whole "evisceration should be 1/3 of your WS's used" was in reference to Evisc > Rudra > Rudra for solo multi-step. If you're not soloing DD, then yeah, it's Rudra's or Mandalic all the way.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-02-09 00:43:06
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
Bismarck.Vize said: »
are we 100% sure this month is gonna be sch and smn parties for ambuscade vol 1 is this a repeat of a previous month ??

We have basically zero information on this month's ambuscade. Wait until we have information rather than clueless speculation.

That's... kind of what I understood Vize to be asking. As in: "why did other people mention SCH or SMN, do they know because this is a repeat of an earlier ambuscade?" Answer: No, this month's Dullahan Vol.1 fight is not a repeat. So Orean is right that at this point it's all speculation.
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By Lakshmi.Jutubyaa 2018-02-09 00:43:37
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Yzzerdd said: »
Lakshmi.Jutubyaa said: »
did a full verify files with POL, didn't fix the issue with logging in.

edit: full verify of FFXI files with POL

So I think it's official that the game is bonk until someone at SE tries logging in. ; ;

imagine the storm if this was mid 2000s and people trying to get in first for land kings.
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By clearlyamule 2018-02-09 00:47:40
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Yzzerdd said: »
Lakshmi.Jutubyaa said: »
did a full verify files with POL, didn't fix the issue with logging in.

edit: full verify of FFXI files with POL

So I think it's official that the game is bonk until someone at SE tries logging in. ; ;
Given it now says maintenance is back on yep
 
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By Marootsoobootsu 2018-02-09 00:49:39
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
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Sure, if you're skillchaining, I get it, but 9/10 times I'm on THF it's a melee zerg and I'm solely focused on per-WS damage. Setting up multi-steps, the drop in per-WS damage is more than justifiable.

I think that got lost in translation somewhere in the chain. The whole "evisceration should be 1/3 of your WS's used" was in reference to Evisc > Rudra > Rudra for solo multi-step. If you're not soloing DD, then yeah, it's Rudra's or Mandalic all the way.

Eiryl said that the AF+3 hat is 11% WSD.

I said maybe 1/5 of my WS are stacked, so it's not 6% WSD.

He said 1/3 of all my WS should be evisceration.

That's the crux of the conversation; nothing was lost in translation. He made a statement applicable only to solo-chaining times, and extrapolated it to all THF experience.

THF hat isn't 11% WSD, and suggesting it is is wrong.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-02-09 00:50:25
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Caerda said: »
Someone is getting demoted to the FFXIV dev team for this screw up...

Most likely they promoted the guy who was responsible to the FFXIV team and didn't fill the position for FFXI.
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By Yzzerdd 2018-02-09 00:53:46
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mfw ffxi has been under the supervision of alexa this whole time
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-02-09 00:56:12
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
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Exenterator doesn't crit.

No one uses extenterator

I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I was replying to, but then again, you never are.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-02-09 00:56:46
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Its a joke man. Of course we use exenterator.

Just not enough to care about its damage. (which is also a joke, calm down.)
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By Creecreelo 2018-02-09 00:58:04
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WS dmg +6% on Rdm head? :/ I mean, it is still a great non-CDC WS piece, but I wasn't expecting them to take a direction like that with the head.

Personally, I was kind of hoping for something further related to enfeebling like Enfeebling Duration or maybe Potency to compliment the high Enfeebling Skill/Mnd (granted they already did this with feet, but Rdm could always use more!).

In other jobs, poor Brd Relic +3 has been such a snoozefest so far. Hopefully they really deliver on the body for DD Brd at least.

The Geo head is quite unexpected, finally an equipment piece that can enhance Radial Arcana!! I'd imagine it'd enhance Mending as well, but I've never merited/had a need for that JA myself.
 
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By Valefor.Susake 2018-02-09 01:01:08
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Marootsoobootsu said: »
it's not 6% WSD.

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By Yzzerdd 2018-02-09 01:06:31
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Lmao hrohj