Is There A Point In PLD Anymore?
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Is there a point in PLD anymore?
Not trolling or anything... But really, wouldn't it be better to put a DD in where a PLD normally is in nearly every situation these days?
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not for Yovra NM in abyssea.... lol
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Shiva.Flionheart said: Not trolling or anything... But really, wouldn't it be better to put a DD in where a PLD normally is in nearly every situation these days? I'd actually take a BST over a PLD. Completely useless.
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a DD with a PDT set can reduce damage majorly, and easily out DD a PLD. I just don't see what use they have any more.
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Shiva.Borealis said: I'd actually take a BST over a PLD. Completely useless.
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Ya I've noticed my pld sucks in almost all situations now. Cant hold hate for ***.
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In most situations without a thf, plds couldn't hold ***for years.... lol I have bird merited with GK with an Aegis pld with like +40 enmity in gear and he still couldn't do much to hold hate
inb4: lulwat GK on birds... ya ya, point remains valid lol.
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Ragnarok.Anye said: Q_Q I'm sorry Anye ; ;
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Ifrit.Eikechi said: not for Yovra NM in abyssea.... lol Use a mage! PLD is a safe job, like SMN is compared to BLM in situations like Tiamat etc. Both have their uses... though I agree that PLDs are nowhere near as useful as people make them out to be.
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That's pretty much what I'm trying to get across, People waste a spot with a PLD who does average dmg, when they could have a sam, mnk, war etc etc which will deal significantly more damage.
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90% of situations a MNK tank will completley outclass a PLD.
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I suppose the next question is, What can be done to pld to improve it?
Well if SE improved pld anymore....DD wise.....then DD's would mostly just QQ like " ZOMFG a PLD is pasing on par with me!!! NERF him/her! OMGOMGOMGOM/CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
I want to see a monk tank Yilbegan, enough said.
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Shiva.Flionheart said: I suppose the next question is, What can be done to pld to improve it?
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Ifrit.Eikechi said: In most situations without a thf, plds couldn't hold ***for years.... lol I have bird merited with GK with an Aegis pld with like +40 enmity in gear and he still couldn't do much to hold hate inb4: lulwat GK on birds... ya ya, point remains valid lol. No tank belongs in a merit party, period. Not sure why you're even bringing this example up. Paladin is pretty much only a safety net for most endgame encounters, nice to have but pretty much there just incase ***hits the fan.
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Shiva.Flionheart said: Not trolling or anything... But really, wouldn't it be better to put a DD in where a PLD normally is in nearly every situation these days? Well SE did say that they want to make it so that stuff in this game can be done with less people (with the level cap increase more and more jobs are starting to branch out on other jobs territory). That said I wouldn't sell pld short while it may not be necessary to have a pld now its still overall safer to have one in your set up incase ***hits the fan.
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/sigh...
I have been advised to get another job to 75 (well, 80 now) if I want to even get into any endgame activity. Not that that's my actual goal, but... well, I did level Paladin waaaaaaay back in the day to be useful and shiny ._. Now I'm just shiny.
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Depends. On higher lvl mobs where level correction kinda kills dmg a pld can outDD alot of DDs. And mobs where you are eating alot of AOEs or attack fast enough keeping shadows up 100% of the time can be hard it offers alot more survivability.
But really blu/nin tank is so much better at keeping/getting hate.
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Well, are there any other jobs you like Anye? You can always give those a shot...
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Ragnarok.Anye said: Not that that's my actual goal, but... well, I did level Paladin waaaaaaay back in the day to be useful and shiny ._. Now I'm just shiny. Now all you have is mud and dried blood. Useful for high level-low man fights and Odin? Or any heavy magic spamming enemy like Bakka, along with Abyssea t3 mobs. Byakko? That's about all I can think off.
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Asura.Alymorel said: Well, are there any other jobs you like Anye? You can always give those a shot... My WAR's at 51 now. I could give that a go, I suppose.... Randomguy said: Ragnarok.Anye said: Not that that's my actual goal, but... well, I did level Paladin waaaaaaay back in the day to be useful and shiny ._. Now I'm just shiny. Now all you have is mud and dried blood.
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I say do what you love. ^^ If you're happy, why change it? If not, make yourself happy.
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Ragnarok.Anye said: /sigh... I have been advised to get another job to 75 (well, 80 now) if I want to even get into any endgame activity. Not that that's my actual goal, but... well, I did level Paladin waaaaaaay back in the day to be useful and shiny ._. Now I'm just shiny. It's good to have multiple jobs to fill other roles in general anyways if you want to do endgame stuff. We still use Paladin for most endgame things anyways, just because, but for things like dynamis, einherjar, and other events where it's generally just dds and support you'd be better off leveling something else. Lakshmi.Eron said: Well if SE improved pld anymore....DD wise.....then DD's would mostly just QQ like " ZOMFG a PLD is pasing on par with me!!! NERF him/her! OMGOMGOMGOM/CRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" I want to see a monk tank Yilbegan, enough said. I personally like playing on PLD, though unfortunately it doesn't get much use because I have A LOT of DD jobs, lol. Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Useful for high level-low man fights and Odin? Or any heavy magic spamming enemy like Bakka, along with Abyssea t3 mobs. Byakko? That's about all I can think off. Ramuh.Dasva said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Useful for high level-low man fights and Odin? Or any heavy magic spamming enemy like Bakka, along with Abyssea t3 mobs. Byakko? That's about all I can think off. How long until a competent DD pulls hate off the nin? The first weaponskill?
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Anye, you should level DRK!
Shares a lot of the gear that PLD has both for melee and for tanking...such as Perle, Homam, PDT and MDT gear etc.
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Phoenix.Avelle said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Useful for high level-low man fights and Odin? Or any heavy magic spamming enemy like Bakka, along with Abyssea t3 mobs. Byakko? That's about all I can think off. How long until a competent DD pulls hate off the nin? The first weaponskill?
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