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By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 19:20:10
Dodik said: »
Why don't you just test your sets, add/take off some pdl where there are other options, and see if dmg goes up or down.

You can choose to have 15 different ws sets, or go with 2 after testing a couple options.

I have, I have no problem dealing damage with my setup. My experience with PDL apparently has been vastly different from yours for some reason.
By Sogoro on 2025-10-21 19:17:14
Felgarr said: »
By Jinxs on 2025-10-21 19:09:34
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Can you read? That's why I have a 0% PDL set.

Edit: You guys are acting like I'm over here running around in a max pdl set fighting sheol gaol bosses with trust... and have the ironic gall to ask if I'm dense.

Sure.
Your answer is based on how much defense down you can apply
more defense down : more pdl can be used.

Assuming you are running around with brd and cor buffs.
You are at the starting gate.

The more defense down the more you can make swaps
its really easy to explain/gear with dnc because its got great swaps
like the pdl ammo and the pdl earring that allow you to keep some of the more intensive wsd pieces while adding more pdl.
and you are boxsteping everything
By Dodik on 2025-10-21 19:09:27
By Nariont on 2025-10-21 18:59:04
Depends on setup, and content as sortie/gaol level nms resist def down if its not ooze/angon. If you just want a blanket amount, no ws;

Dia 3 + LS: 23%
steps: 5~23%
Ooze: 33%
Frailty: varies on content and how nerfed bubbles are but idris base is about 20% before boosted JA at 50% nerf iirc

Now the other end of that is how much can you skyrocket your atk and not need def down, this is primarily for trash and the answer is quite a lot +7 crooked chaos on just a lucky is already +56% atk bonus, no 11, no drk bonus so thats 15%~ lost atk boost. Multiplying off a already sky high base atk from hm/minuets you can get to stupid levels
By Jinxs on 2025-10-21 18:39:51
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
The argument has never been about which vr ring to choose.

From the start I've been trying to answer this question.

If I'm in a position where I think PDL gear is affecting the damage of a WS, how much PDL gear should I use:

My argument is that you should use all of it. If you have 30% that is relevant you should use 30%. If you only have 20% that is relevant, then just use 20%. You're never going to know if you're only actually using 10% (Unless you've done extensive testing to know for sure that).

Cornelia's, Ephramad's, Lehko's, makes no difference to me. Each has very valid use cases.

The one caveat is that you do have access to PDL gear that isn't relevant, specifically R30 Mpaca's hose, I don't think there is any real scenario where the PDL from that item provides more benefit over Nyame path B.



HOW MUCH DEFENSE DOWN CAN YOU APPLY
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 17:57:05
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
I mean...you could go to MMM for 5 minutes and reset them.
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By Llewelyn on 2025-10-21 17:37:48
I mean, Ou doesn't even attack while readying his 30-second Prophylaxis move so yeah, that's one situation where you don't need defensive gear. Not that I'd bother making the change myself since I've gotten rid of my low M.Eva gear a long time ago.
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 17:07:37
If you're planning to do multiple Ou runs, you probably shouldnt be relying on 1hr as part of the strat.
By Felgarr on 2025-10-21 16:44:00
Link? lol
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 16:32:06
Bismarck.Sterk said: »
I find myself enjoying the 27-28 acc on Ephramad's as much as the STR/PDL. WS sets typically find themselves at much lower acc values than TP sets, and Ephramad's helps alleviate that a bit. Ephramad's is also useful for both single and multi-hit WSs while Cornelia's is moreso limited to single-hit WSs.

There are alway's tradeoffs. Cornelia's is useful for magic WS (not that sam has pure magic ws that are worth using, but I have done hilarious Thunder/Raiden thrusts on occasion). Ephramad's is completely useless for those.
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 16:30:08
You're still trying to make this a comparison between Ephramad and Cornelia. I don't care about that comparison, that's easy. Do you want an all the time bonus, pick Cornelia. Do you want a decent WS ring, that is BIS when the right conditions are met, pick Ephramad. When ephramad is decent it will never be better than Cornelia, everyone understands that, but when it is better than Cornelia, it's better. Make you're choice. If you don't like it, wait for a weekly reset and make you're choice again.

Asura.Sechs said: »
For the rest, Nynja already perfectly replied to you. Love it or hate it but there is no one-fits-all answer to the PDL answer. It's the main reason why some people don't love PDL after all, no?

There is not a one-size-fits-all answer only if you want to make it needlessly complicated.

Anecdotal/theoretical example aside, unless you've actually gone into sheol c and figured out the def value of all 27* mob types in the content, you'll never know from mob to mob what you need.

Then again, I've never been one of those people that has 20 different acc sets for melee. That was always just needlessly convoluted to me.
By Llewelyn on 2025-10-21 16:28:47
I find myself enjoying the 27-28 acc on Ephramad's as much as the STR/PDL. WS sets typically find themselves at much lower acc values than TP sets, and Ephramad's helps alleviate that a bit. Ephramad's is also useful for both single and multi-hit WSs while Cornelia's is moreso limited to single-hit WSs.
By gavroches on 2025-10-21 16:24:30
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
NM are not solo friendly for sure, but they are not difficult with 6 people. Shiva seems to have taken down their NMs, look like we done on Phoenix as well. They take 10 min tops. Just glad it’s for the month now.

I'm no game developer, but that sounds like bad game development. 10min monthly content?

Per NM, 4 max a day, per zone (x2)= 44 NM or about 440 min worth of fight a month per server, 80 min a day for 5 days, if you focus on that. Most server have only a few team (Amarok on Phoenix probably did the most) that want to tackle it, so that’s enough in my opinion. Also, easier said than done, Asura, bahamut, Odin… isn’t done yet and they have way more ppl than us.
By talaya on 2025-10-21 16:21:45
Asura.Vyre said: »
Love the pic Tally :D

Just had a funny thought about your name.

Been saying it in my head as Tally Wally. Like Tally-mark and Wally the same way...

But has it actually been Tall-ee, Wall-ee, this whole time!? :O

Yep its Tah-lee wah-lee, i wanted to embrace a tarutaru version of my 04 original characters name Talaya who is a mithra haha.

Cerberus.Dekar said: »
I think it's really awesome you drew her with heterochromia (two different eye colors). I have a loved one with it and she always gets excited when she sees characters depicted with it.

Aww thats so cool! Ive always thought heterochromia was such an awesome trait and when FFXIV came out with the option i immediately gave Tally the red and green eye combo and it has stuck ever since, All art i do of her and have done of her since then has this feature!
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 15:59:40
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
If I'm in a position where I think PDL gear is affecting the damage of a WS, how much PDL gear should I use:
There is no magic one-size-fits-all answer as that depends on your attack vs mob def, so if you're in a position where you think PDL matters, use enough PDL until you think it no longer matters.
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-21 15:57:28
The argument has never been about which vr ring to choose.

From the start I've been trying to answer this question.

If I'm in a position where I think PDL gear is affecting the damage of a WS, how much PDL gear should I use:

My argument is that you should use all of it. If you have 30% that is relevant you should use 30%. If you only have 20% that is relevant, then just use 20%. You're never going to know if you're only actually using 10% (Unless you've done extensive testing to know for sure that).

Cornelia's, Ephramad's, Lehko's, makes no difference to me. Each has very valid use cases.

The one caveat is that you do have access to PDL gear that isn't relevant, specifically R30 Mpaca's hose, I don't think there is any real scenario where the PDL from that item provides more benefit over Nyame path B.
By Dekar1 on 2025-10-21 13:01:13
Asura.Tallywally said: »
Heya! Sorry ive been busy in the background, but here is Tally! I did her for a card game i am part of, please enjoy!
Il do more XI sketches again soon ♡


I think it's really awesome you drew her with heterochromia (two different eye colors). I have a loved one with it and she always gets excited when she sees characters depicted with it.
By Vyrerus on 2025-10-21 12:58:05
Love the pic Tally :D

Just had a funny thought about your name.

Been saying it in my head as Tally Wally. Like Tally-mark and Wally the same way...

But has it actually been Tall-ee, Wall-ee, this whole time!? :O
By Nickeny on 2025-10-21 12:31:57
Phoenix.Gavroches said: »
NM are not solo friendly for sure, but they are not difficult with 6 people. Shiva seems to have taken down their NMs, look like we done on Phoenix as well. They take 10 min tops. Just glad it’s for the month now.

I'm no game developer, but that sounds like bad game development. 10min monthly content?
By Brimstone on 2025-10-21 12:06:36
That looks like react (not gearswap)

Which I believe only works for NPCs (not PCs including yourself).

If you want it to work for self cast just put it in your midcast sets (I think) in your gearswap. If you want to distinguish between self cast and other casts I think you can use a player.name sort of conditional. Just define 2 different sets (can use set_combine() and override relevant pieces to only support 1 base set).

If you're multiboxing you can probably use send to have the character getting casted on change sets.

if its just a friend casting on you, not sure if there's a solution. (other than them telling you and you manually equipping it)

(pseudoish code):
Code
if player.name == 'mychar' then
 equip(sets.midcast.Phalanx.self)
else
 equip(sets.midcast.Phalanx)
end
By Cahlum on 2025-10-21 11:52:40
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
Is there a way to keep lockstyle despite weapon type changing? Currently idling in a club but if switch to a staff it breaks it.

Dressup addon in Windower, but in the base game there is absolutely no way to do this, no.

Thank you. That's what I needed!
By Warpy on 2025-10-21 11:11:14
Server: Asura
Floor: SE #3
Location: Infront of the Exit Porter
By maletaru on 2025-10-21 10:14:00
Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
Is there a way to keep lockstyle despite weapon type changing? Currently idling in a club but if switch to a staff it breaks it.

Dressup addon in Windower, but in the base game there is absolutely no way to do this, no.
By Cahlum on 2025-10-21 10:10:46
Is there a way to keep lockstyle despite weapon type changing? Currently idling in a club but if switch to a staff it breaks it.
By Seun on 2025-10-21 09:30:45
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Seun said: »
Kill the boss with 8 minutes left or 6 minutes left, really no difference.

Kill the boss in 14m30s, don't kill it in 15m10s, big difference.

The difference one piece of gear makes is not that significant Maletaru.
By waffle on 2025-10-21 09:11:54
I feel like it's worth remembering that in their effort to lower costs to keep FFXI running "as long as they can", FFXI no longer exists as an independent entity at SE.
It has no budget, as it was folded into the FFXIV budget.
It had no dedicated devs anymore, not one. They told us this and justified it on the basis of not locking devs into working on obsolete ps2 coding. So any dev work on FFXI is handled by XIV devs when they are between XIV tasks.
And it has no dedicated hardware either. All our servers are run on virtual machines on the XIV servers.
By gavroches on 2025-10-21 08:22:56
Yeah, people will be bitching, but so what, that’s all they do…

NM are not solo friendly for sure, but they are not difficult with 6 people. Shiva seems to have taken down their NMs, look like we done on Phoenix as well. They take 10 min tops. Just glad it’s for the month now.

Can’t wait for the next update as those gears will be done by year’s end.
By NynJa on 2025-10-21 08:16:39
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Yes. People would 1000% be bitching if SE made these NMs spawn at JP midnight and give a unit bonus.
Well they already spawn at JP midnight

But whats your source data that people would be "1000% be bitching if they gave the NM's a 2k unit bonus"?
By Akumasama on 2025-10-21 07:48:36
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
  • Make the NMs force spawned with pop items dropped by other enemies in different wings, like Abyssea.

I understand the point you're trying to make, I think I agree to a very wide margin.

I think you might be missing a very important point from SE's point of view though. Wether we can agree or disagree with them, a key part of the Limbus development for them was trying to bring back the "you're in the world" feeling, as opposed to the instancing we've seen for all these past years.
With a goal like this, of course they wanted to promote free-spawning and free-popping NMs.


I'm in the frontlines in saying that the NMs system simply doesn't work right now because it doesn't, there's not much to discuss here, it doesn't, period.
But lest we forget that it's not "complete" yet.
I'm very very confident NMs will have a wider scope in Limbus once new elements of this endgame activity will be released before the end of the year.
It's too early for us to judge now, let's wait a bit more, shall we?
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