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Bismarck.Drakelth said: »No offense is meant but I tend to be skeptical, bg wiki also is more often right then wrong when it comes to random things like this.
No, it isn't really.
You can go into the page history and see who edited anything on wiki. There is no verification process on wiki at all, literally anyone can edit anything about anything.
I still remember a long time ago, someone made the claim about Store TP gear affects the amount of TP you get from being hit. Nobody believed him at all. There was constant discussions about how that was incorrect. Then all of a sudden last year this line pops up on the wiki history page:
Quote: Added findings regarding TP/hit fed to player when equipped with varying levels of sTP
Apparently the guy was right the whole time, but nobody bothered to put any of the information on the wiki, so it went missing for a long time.
My point is, the wiki is not infallible, and is oftentimes incomplete. It requires players to update it with their findings, and if they don't you the reader has incomplete information too. The website itself isn't "accurate" inasmuch as the people adding information make sure they add accurate information. It's not as fool-proof as you think.
By the way, I still haven't updated the Aminon page with my ranged damage findings, because nobody else has confirmed what I observed from my experience. Again, incomplete information
I'm not saying its infallible and never was, just that it tends to be a better source than someone say it works like X because I "tested it". I also never said he was wrong just that if you make a claim you bring your evidence and test results to speak for it.
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Shadow is totally not referring to me ever forgetting Sublimation there. Yup. Totally not talking about that cuz that definitely never happened... much
Haha, this is too funny. If we could get that consistent 6th person, we could do 9-boss magic strat.
For tonight, we have a spot for a COR if anyone is interested. (Sortie, Magic Strat, 8-boss, 8:30PM EST).
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By Taint on 2025-07-24 12:09:00
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Yoichi SAM was a thing at 75-99 not because Namas hit hard but because you could spam WSs with Soboro and not pull hate.
It was huge in Legion and other events at the time since pulling hate was a death sentence.
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Dang I feel like my childhood is dying this week.
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By Seun on 2025-07-24 12:06:31
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Oh wow weird. One of the items that was heavily crafted during the no material loss exploit is being flooded into the market. Almost like somebody has a mule with 100s of them. I don't see why they would flood them into Asura market rather than take them to other servers and bring the gil back later?
How?
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Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »Bismarck.Drakelth said: »Bismarck.Drakelth said: »The tp bonus only applies to ws ur does, 0 effect on ranged ws...
TP Bonus Augment works on ranged. Similar to Magian Weapons/Ikengas Axe
I have tested it out to confirm
Aeonics do not work on ranged however.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/TP_Bonus
Not according to bg wiki, what kind of testing have you done? Do you have the raw data and parameters or wss it an eyeball test? Bg eiki directly states that only magian and Odyssey weapons with tp bonus apply to different ws
TP Bonus Augments work on All weaponskills. That is why CORs and RNGs make TP bonus guns and bows. It's also why some melee dual wielders make 2 TP bonus Swords/Daggers/Katanas.
TP bonus Natural (Aeonic Weapons) only work on weaponskills that they themselves perform.
It is well documented on that page you linked. The page hasn't been updated with items like Ikenga's Axe and this unity weapon yet though, someone should do that.
Edit: and in terms of damage, TP bonus GKT or this unity weapon + Ullr Empyreal Arrow is very very strong. Stronger than Yoichi imo.
Ullr being a short bow kinda sucks.If it was a long bow it would be perfect.
Yoichi being a long bow with higher base DMG evens things out a bit.
I figure it like this:
Empyrean Arrow still has raw damage. Also can be used instead of Kasha for its SC properties.
Namas shines when it self skillchains. Can be used to open for light or darkness.
For example if Namas was averaging 30k damage which can be spammed at 1000TP, Empyreal Arrow in the same set at 3K TP was averaging 35-36k
Honestly I say get both. You want the arrows regardless.
The main benefit to Yoichi is that you don't need to mess with a TP Bonus GK. You can use it with your preferred GK/Polearm with it.
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By Negan on 2025-07-24 11:44:12
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For example I am pretty damn lazy, so I don't update it. If you want to be skeptical I get it. But why would I lie? To trick you into wasting hides?
Many people use the wiki exclusively for their information and they very rarely read the thousands of posts of some random guy who said this works this way or that way. They consider it to be the main source of up to date info, but rarely consider it as a player resource. They just take it's word. There's dozens of instances where someone comes on this forum to ask a question that is long understood by the regulars on this site, but they have no clue how something performs because none of that information makes it over to the wiki.
The best practice if you discover new information is not to simply post it here, but post it on the wiki as well. Nobody will find your random post explaining some obscure detail that might only be asked twice a year or less. If you're confident in your testing, just plug it in the wiki so everyone has the same up-to-date information. Otherwise, you keep getting people who are skeptical when you bring up things that are old but unfamiliar to them. And you also get the reverse: people blindly believe the wiki because its "on the wiki" and nothing you say can convince them otherwise unless its on there. double edged sword.
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By K123 on 2025-07-24 11:36:36
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Oh wow weird. One of the items that was heavily crafted during the no material loss exploit is being flooded into the market. Almost like somebody has a mule with 100s of them. I don't see why they would flood them into Asura market rather than take them to other servers and bring the gil back later?
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Bismarck.Drakelth said: »This statements wording would lead me to believe its only Augmented magian and oddy weapons without some further evidence or test results.
It's always been the augmented trait, there's nothing unique about either of those class of weapons that allow the trait to function across weapon types.
Anyways, this is easily testable, especially with SAM + Sekkanoki. Empyreal Arrow scales linearly with TP, so you should be able to fire off several WS at 1k and observe the damage, and then throw on R15 Kunimitsu +1 and test it some more. Should see the damage increase immediately. Just make sure to account for the STR difference between Unity Bonuses from the sword.
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »Edit: and in terms of damage, TP bonus GKT or this unity weapon + Ullr Empyreal Arrow is very very strong. Stronger than Yoichi imo.
That's why I mentioned it earlier:
Ullr/Empyreal Arrow, probably your strongest bow WS, +50% damage, 2.0 attack modifier
Bow WS are complete garbage, Yoichi is no exception. Empyreal should destroy Namas with or without TP Bonus weapons.
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Bismarck.Drakelth said: »Bismarck.Drakelth said: »The tp bonus only applies to ws ur does, 0 effect on ranged ws...
TP Bonus Augment works on ranged. Similar to Magian Weapons/Ikengas Axe
I have tested it out to confirm
Aeonics do not work on ranged however.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/TP_Bonus
Not according to bg wiki, what kind of testing have you done? Do you have the raw data and parameters or wss it an eyeball test? Bg eiki directly states that only magian and Odyssey weapons with tp bonus apply to different ws
I tested it over a year ago, I don't really keep that kinda data.
I don't mean to be snarky with this.
BG Wiki is edited by players. Not all players have time or motivation to edit it. If certain things are unknown or overlooked; they won't be on there. For example I am pretty damn lazy, so I don't update it.
Example of why BG Wiki isn't always 100% up to date
List of stuff I was too lazy to add to BG..
-BG Wiki was lacking in regards to some jug pet effects and descriptions. I discovered Zealous Snort will grant you guard regardless of your weapon type
-BG Wiki did not state that multiple target claim issues effect the Skillchains window on Diamond Aspis. I confirmed that it does.
-BG Wiki also said nothing about Origin bypassing shadows. I confirmed that too. Again another unknown. I did post about this.
More than happy to report findings on AH however.
If you want to be skeptical I get it. But why would I lie? To trick you into wasting hides?
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By K123 on 2025-07-24 11:13:11
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it's importing far more materials than it's exporting. You mean people import the mats into Asura for the su5+1 gear and others? Because there are the crafters there or what? I thought people had loads of material hoards from duping and cancelling breaking crafts?
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By Rairin on 2025-07-24 11:09:57
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People will definitely still transfer items off Asura as long as Asura remains the only place to reliably find them. Even if you can't bring gil in, you can buy gil on Asura and buy items with your mule then transfer it out. You can also pay RMT to transfer things to you.
The bigger question is whether Asura will still be as much of an auction hub as it is without transfers in. It has the most gilbuyers by far, but it's importing far more materials than it's exporting. Might hit a point where Asurans can't actually buy what they want any more without access to the natural resources of all the other servers. Just like America is headed.
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Bismarck.Drakelth said: »Bg eiki directly states that only magian and Odyssey weapons with tp bonus apply to different ws
Wiki is not infallible, it's edited by people. That may be a quote that limits it down to those two categories of weapons, likely because the author forgot/didn't realize the augment on Unity Great Katana exists. I know I definitely forgot.
The understood explanation of TP Bonus and application was that any augment version of "TP bonus" works with *all* weaponskills, regardless of whether it is the main weapon. If the TP Bonus trait is a native stat on the weapon (i.e. Hagun, Martial Sword, Aeonics, Tenzen bow etc), it won't work. Odyssey Weapons and Trial Magian weapons are the two common weapon types that have that trait as augments, but there's not many others.
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By Taint on 2025-07-24 10:56:10
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Its also best to kill DD (if able) before doing D boss. Leave the rest alone though and do them later in the run.
You'll pick up 3k(?) galli a run and barely lose any time.
Objectives+DD > DH > Bhoot otw to C > CBA > DNC solos PIG, BRD/COR/RDM kill Leech, PLD/GEO head to F porter to get down first to check the off path for bitzer > FGE > Aminon
If we don't get to DD during Objectives then he'll be near D bitzer in the big room after CBA. PLD aggros and runs to D porter (port to start) and GEO tags him and brings him to a safe spot from aggro.
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By K123 on 2025-07-24 10:54:11
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I don't actually recall you ever doing it Pergatory... for me I've become so addicted to your refresh 3s, I've forgotten sublimation even exists... :P
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Shadow is totally not referring to me ever forgetting Sublimation there. Yup. Totally not talking about that cuz that definitely never happened... much
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By K123 on 2025-07-24 10:27:55
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Didn't realise that would level it up but it makes sense.
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That wasn't the answer I was referring to.
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A note about perg's sch+geo to C route. Geo should have at least 1 merit in mending halation as an emergency wakeup for if sch forgets sublimation or something and you get sleepga'd and the geo is taking hits.
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By . on 2025-07-24 10:20:53
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My PC uses AMD, and tbf, I never liked its performance. Im sure to use Nvidia next computer, hoping to have less lag on my Palworld games.
So, what is worse:
People who derail the thread
OR
People who dont follow up with a question?
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By . on 2025-07-24 10:18:11
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The 3 names invokations works for stinking spirits like Alfania, but no for Rady.
For Rady, probably sacrificing a tarutaru for the naked goddess of jiggle physics.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »"I'm bored so I want to watch FFXI play itself" as though watching a bot do skillups for you is entertaining. idk it's kinda funny for the first few hits Why would I be watching it? The dumb desperation of Maletaru as usual, so glad I don't see most of it with blocking.
Big brain people like me never do only one thing at once.
The funny thing is Maletaru gave you probably the best answer to satisfy your boredom and skill up Throwing at the same time, but because you've blocked him, you can't see his suggestion.
"Big brain".
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By K123 on 2025-07-24 10:16:37
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PUGs normally hit D at 52-53mins left
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-07-24 10:10:48
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So, watch out when spelling those names. We must avoid invoking those stinking spirits here RadialArcana!, RadialArcana!!, RadialArcana!!!
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By Seun on 2025-07-24 09:44:15
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Yeah, usually if you're bored you find something that's engaging and entertaining. Skilling up isn't that.
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By Rairin on 2025-07-24 09:43:07
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I don't think the issue is that skilling up is boring or that you're botting it; it's that you phrased your initial question as "I'm so bored I want..." as if turning on a skill bot would resolve your boredom.
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