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Denver students walk out of school in protest
By Ramyrez 2014-09-24 13:40:15
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »Quote: However, I do also agree the little punks should learn respect for authority. It'll go a long way in their lives once they graduate and get jobs. I see the problem but disagree with the cure/medication.
I don't think kids needs to respect authority to respect the law and their place in society as a full member.
Respect is earned.
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »I think they need to learn compassion and tolerance, and more than anything to be critical thinkers.
This.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 13:41:26
That teen agers are able to see through the revisionist *** shows you just how transparent these revisionist troglodyte are to everyone but themselves. I'm pretty sure that 99% of the kids (and teachers) protesting couldn't tell you what's been changed. And the other 1% are just guessing.
Sure they could, nothing has been changed, the vote was stopped. Tell us what was going to change then. That was up for debate.
Oh wait, since nothing was going to change, then I guess that couldn't be against changing history, like some people (including you) claimed it to be....
Not really logical at all.
Its more logical to assume that if a group of people seek the power to change something, its because they want to change it...
Combined with the language mentioned in the report, its pretty obvious to anyone who can read and think that they want certain aspects of american history hidden from students.
If your next question "which aspects?" - the report makes clear the negative ones.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-24 13:43:21
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-09-24 13:45:15
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »Does this mean that kids won't be taught about Native Americans, or slavery, or the presidents that were assassinated?....
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »This one is more relevant to the current era:
"essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority "
Aren't Americans encouraged to challenge Authority and Government when it is necessary to do so? I don't mean violence, but genuine exercising of one's political rights to descend from public or common opinion.
Back when I went to school in california, our history classes did cover the horrible crap we americans did to native americans in the name of expanding our country, also how we basically threw american citizens of japanese descent into prison camps during ww2, etc.
I am from 'generation x', which feels like a much different time compared to now.
It would not surprise me that certain people want to wage war on the minds of young americans and program them to adopt christianity, consumerism, our 'free market' system, and most of all, OBEY! lest you become fodder for the ever growing prison industrial complex.
Free speech has eroded, police are now more militarized, more angry, less patient and you are intimidated and threatened to be thrown in jail for fabricated reasons if you 'disturb the peace' while having a nonviolent protest.
If you're rich and you're white enough, you can still protest and be left alone a bit less.
True political activism and protesting is dead, I think the tipping point was the occupy wall street stuff. Now people are a bit more intimidated about speaking out.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-09-24 13:47:40
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
Whoosh!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 13:48:11
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it. Here is a fundamental question for you; should the state be shaped around its citizens or should the citizens be shaped around the state?
Famous Arab proverb :
Deputy Prime Minister: The people are rioting and demonstrating against us. They want you to step down from your post.
Prime Minister: They(the citizens) should step down as citizens.
Looses something in translation but you get the gist of it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-24 13:48:28
Now people are a bit more intimidated about speaking out. What world are you living in?
People are protesting over the stupidest ***now, more than ever.
OWS was the catalyst that created the whole notion that it is "cool" to protest about something. Some kids are protesting just to protest.
If you don't believe me, I'm sure Fonewear can find some pictures for you, since he knows where to find all the batshit crazy stuff going on out there.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-24 13:50:43
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »Here is a fundamental question for you; should the state be shaped around its citizens or should the citizens be shaped around the state? I'll bite.
The government (federal and state) should be shaped around it's citizens at it's core, as a service, not a hindrance. The government's main role is supposed to be defense, not support though. But above all else, the federal government is supposed to be impartial, something that hasn't existed in the past 6 years.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-24 13:50:56
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
You teach the facts.
You let students make their own decisions about them.
High school is far more vaulable in teaching students how to think critically and with adequate self-reflection than it it is simply teaching students to regurgitate dates and names of important events.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-09-24 13:52:09
Now people are a bit more intimidated about speaking out. What world are you living in?
People are protesting over the stupidest ***now, more than ever.
OWS was the catalyst that created the whole notion that it is "cool" to protest about something. Some kids are protesting just to protest.
If you don't believe me, I'm sure Fonewear can find some pictures for you, since he knows where to find all the batshit crazy stuff going on out there.
I used to be a bit of an activist when I was younger, and i've seen police brutality at peaceful protests on more than one occasion. I've seen cops intimidate and harass people trying to record police behavior, That's the world I know I live in.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 13:52:22
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »Does this mean that kids won't be taught about Native Americans, or slavery, or the presidents that were assassinated?....
Quetzalcoatl.Maldini said: »This one is more relevant to the current era:
"essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority "
Aren't Americans encouraged to challenge Authority and Government when it is necessary to do so? I don't mean violence, but genuine exercising of one's political rights to descend from public or common opinion.
Back when I went to school in california, our history classes did cover the horrible crap we americans did to native americans in the name of expanding our country, also how we basically threw american citizens of japanese descent into prison camps during ww2, etc.
I am from 'generation x', which feels like a much different time compared to now.
It would not surprise me that certain people want to wage war on the minds of young americans and program them to adopt christianity, consumerism, our 'free market' system, and most of all, OBEY! lest you become fodder for the ever growing prison industrial complex.
Free speech has eroded, police are now more militarized, more angry, less patient and you are intimidated and threatened to be thrown in jail for fabricated reasons if you 'disturb the peace' while having a nonviolent protest.
If you're rich and you're white enough, you can still protest and be left alone a bit less.
True political activism and protesting is dead, I think the tipping point was the occupy wall street stuff. Now people are a bit more intimidated about speaking out.
But history has demonstrated how ignoring problems such as these has had devastating consequences for the ruling class.
I'm also a Gen-X'er (just barely) and grew up in L.A. I left in the late 90's and I can tell you, from here, looking from outside, it appears far worse.
I'm just left asking "wow wtf are the people/country I knew".
By Ramyrez 2014-09-24 13:52:45
But above all else, the federal government is supposed to be impartial, something that hasn't existed in the past 36 years.
You're not wrong, just underestimating how long it's been.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-09-24 13:53:43
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
Or maybe people on the far right need to learn to respect the curriculum that gives students who are taking personal responsibility for their education by opting into a more challenging and expansive tier of our education system? You know...The ones who are enthusiastic, competitive, and willing to learn and work, so they are not booted out of AP classes. You know...That very meritocratic, tiered system of education that is only offered if you have demonstrated the ability to perform in those classes?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-24 13:59:10
Apparently, the teachers protested as well with a " sick-out" and also made this press release explaining the deeper issues: The Conifer Teachers have issued a Press Release
Friday, September 19, 2014 was an important day for educators in Jefferson County. Throughout the entire district, individuals chose to take collective action to raise community awareness of the Jefferson County Board of Education’s new unilateral decision making model. Since the seating of new board majority, educators, administrators, parents and students throughout the District have repeatedly expressed concerns about the negative implications of a non-inclusive approach to decision making. One need only consider the countless letters, emails, and public comments reaching out to the District’s administrators and educators as evidence of the public’s concern at being shut out of the decision making process. Regrettably, these concerns have proven to be well founded and have compelled numerous educators at CHS & Standley Lake H.S., to take an appropriate and measured response in an effort to raise public awareness of this issue.
Specifically, the Board’s insistence on censoring the college preparatory AP US History curriculum will, if successful, require teachers to completely ignore certain aspects of American history rather than teach the entirety of American history in a context that promotes and develops crucial, college level, critical thinking skills. Educators, parents and students alike were all deeply disappointed to learn that the impetus for this censorship is school board member Ms. Julie Williams, who proposed the creation of a review committee but proceeded to solicit selective input from an exclusive group of her supporters days before the discussion on the review criteria for censoring the long established AP curriculum. A decision of such far reaching importance should include everyone, not just a handful of supporters from one board member.
Similarly, the Board’s teacher compensation proposal is also highly problematic. It has been erroneously stated by numerous board members that Jeffco teachers are against merit based pay. Nothing could be further from the truth. And while we do not believe that such misinformation is being intentionally spread by the new Board of Education, such a complete and absolute misunderstanding of the facts is yet another indication of the ineffectiveness the Board’s current mode of operation. We hope the Board agrees with us that the best decisions are informed ones, and that shutting out opposing views from the decision making process is an ineffective practice that only serves as a detriment to arriving at informed decisions. Such a practice is unreasonable, unprofessional, and will only lead to future unnecessary conflicts between administrators and educators, with the students being caught in the middle.
Given the consistent academic success of Jefferson County Schools, a merit based compensation program is greatly to the advantage of the overwhelming majority of Jeffco teachers. Merit based pay is not the issue. This issue is the use of an arbitrary, nontransparent evaluation system that vests absolute authority in administrators to determine all levels of teacher effectiveness. And while we are the first to recognize and express our gratitude for the dedication of administrators throughout the district, many of these evaluators have not been in classroom for years, and most are evaluating scholastic departments in areas where they’ve never been certified to teach. Even first year administrators with no previous experience are empowered to evaluate all members of a department that they are not recognized by the district to teach. It is clearly an unreasonable and untenable position for the Board to insist that an administrator who is not recognized by the district as qualified to teach in a given scholastic area should nonetheless be empowered to evaluate every teacher within that department. This is clearly not a best administrative practice.
Furthermore, there is no mechanism to ensure transparency. Teachers within a given scholastic department have no means whatsoever to compare and contrast their evaluation with other similarly situated educators. There is no intradepartmental transparency, no interdepartmental transparency, no community-wide transparency and least of all, district-wide transparency. Every teacher has to take, as a matter of faith, that they are treated on par with their coworkers. Again, this is not a best administrative practice. On the contrary, it is among the worst conceived practices in in this or any other profession, and one that teachers will continue to insist be rectified.
To bring attentions to these matters, on Friday, September 19, numerous educators at CHS and Standley Lake H.S. made the choice to raise community awareness by working within the framework of the district’s employment
mandate. The decision to raise community awareness was also made in consultation with administration in an effort to minimize any negative impact on students. Our goal was not to be disruptive, but rather to act in such a way so as to avoid the larger, more costly future disruptions looming on the horizon. And while Friday’s effort involved both JCEA members and non-members, it was nonetheless independent from any corrective efforts currently being taken by the JCEA. In taking Friday’s action, all employees judiciously adhered to the proper procedure for arranging such absences and went so far as to inform the school’s administrative team well in advance of what was to transpire.
Moreover, we were all given the impression that the schools would remain open, and even worked together to provide ample time to develop detailed substitute lesson plans. It wasn’t until the following day that any participating teacher was apprised of the board’s decision to abandon all efforts to find substitute coverage. It is our hope and expectation that the district and their respective administrative teams will accept the responsibility for unilaterally shutting down the affected schools, as this decision was made without informing the acting teachers.
As dedicated professionals with a passion for education, we always hold the very best interests of our students at heart. But many educators have come to realize that something must be done to make our silenced voices heard again. It is our sincere desire to build upon the successes we’ve achieved together over the past several years by encouraging the new board to embrace us as partners in the decision making process, as in years past, rather than treat us as obstacles that have to be overcome. We hope that our respective communities can find strength and understanding in knowing that we are all in this together, and remain passionate about working on behalf of the best interests of our students.
It is our greatest desire that we reestablish the collaborative and cooperative atmosphere that has been the hallmark of relations between Jeffco teachers, administrators, parents and students for years past. The effectiveness of this approach is well justified by the prestigious position Jeffco schools enjoy on both the state and national levels. By working as a team again, we can all address the issues that are dear to us, while avoiding squandering scarce resources and attempting to solve non-existent problems. In the final analysis, we are all dedicated professionals striving to build a better future for our youth. It is in this spirit of service to our students that we ask the board to consider both our concerns and the best interests of Jeffco’s students. Sounds like they're rallying against the formation of a totalitarian-like education board. I'd find something like that pretty hard to defend but I'm sure people will find a way ^^
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-24 13:59:35
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
You teach the facts.
You let students make their own decisions about them.
High school is far more vaulable in teaching students how to think critically and with adequate self-reflection than it it is simply teaching students to regurgitate dates and names of important events. Who's against teaching the facts? I'm certainly not.
I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. It isn't, it actually helps us as a society because it gives us a reason to be proud to be who we are. Yes, let's teach our children our mistakes in the past and why they are mistakes, but let's also teach our children our accomplishments and why they are good also.
Instead of focusing on the negativity in life, let's strive to be a positive society....
I used to be a bit of an activist when I was younger, and i've seen police brutality at peaceful protests on more than one occasion. I've seen cops intimidate and harass people trying to record police behavior, That's the world I know I live in. Get those police officers and thugs fired then. Instead of reporting it to the police chief, go straight above them (the mayor, or even higher than that).
Show that police brutality instead of protesting against it. Protesting does nothing more than showing your complaints without proof, but if you take it one step further, you can actually get ***done....
You're not wrong, just underestimating how long it's been. It's rapidly expanding with this administration openly being partial to a specific group of people.
Problem is, that group doesn't realize how much they have benefited by this impartiality....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-24 14:01:40
So basically, those who support this protest because of selfish reasons like their own perception of patriotism and respect are bad things to teach in a classroom.
Got it.
Or maybe people on the far right need to learn to respect the curriculum that gives students who are taking personal responsibility for their education by opting into a more challenging and expansive tier of our education system? You know...The ones who are enthusiastic, competitive, and willing to learn and work, so they are not booted out of AP classes. You know...That very meritocratic, tiered system of education that is only offered if you have demonstrated the ability to perform in those classes? You know that's only true for that specific class. Why doesn't that one class only protest instead of the entire school (district) as reported on the source article?
Most of the "protesters" do not even understand what they are protesting about, and you know it!
By Ramyrez 2014-09-24 14:02:28
Apparently, the teachers protested as well with a " sick-out" and also made this press release explaining the deeper issues: The Conifer Teachers have issued a Press Release
Friday, September 19, 2014 was an important day for educators in Jefferson County. Throughout the entire district, individuals chose to take collective action to raise community awareness of the Jefferson County Board of Education’s new unilateral decision making model. Since the seating of new board majority, educators, administrators, parents and students throughout the District have repeatedly expressed concerns about the negative implications of a non-inclusive approach to decision making. One need only consider the countless letters, emails, and public comments reaching out to the District’s administrators and educators as evidence of the public’s concern at being shut out of the decision making process. Regrettably, these concerns have proven to be well founded and have compelled numerous educators at CHS & Standley Lake H.S., to take an appropriate and measured response in an effort to raise public awareness of this issue.
Specifically, the Board’s insistence on censoring the college preparatory AP US History curriculum will, if successful, require teachers to completely ignore certain aspects of American history rather than teach the entirety of American history in a context that promotes and develops crucial, college level, critical thinking skills. Educators, parents and students alike were all deeply disappointed to learn that the impetus for this censorship is school board member Ms. Julie Williams, who proposed the creation of a review committee but proceeded to solicit selective input from an exclusive group of her supporters days before the discussion on the review criteria for censoring the long established AP curriculum. A decision of such far reaching importance should include everyone, not just a handful of supporters from one board member.
Similarly, the Board’s teacher compensation proposal is also highly problematic. It has been erroneously stated by numerous board members that Jeffco teachers are against merit based pay. Nothing could be further from the truth. And while we do not believe that such misinformation is being intentionally spread by the new Board of Education, such a complete and absolute misunderstanding of the facts is yet another indication of the ineffectiveness the Board’s current mode of operation. We hope the Board agrees with us that the best decisions are informed ones, and that shutting out opposing views from the decision making process is an ineffective practice that only serves as a detriment to arriving at informed decisions. Such a practice is unreasonable, unprofessional, and will only lead to future unnecessary conflicts between administrators and educators, with the students being caught in the middle.
Given the consistent academic success of Jefferson County Schools, a merit based compensation program is greatly to the advantage of the overwhelming majority of Jeffco teachers. Merit based pay is not the issue. This issue is the use of an arbitrary, nontransparent evaluation system that vests absolute authority in administrators to determine all levels of teacher effectiveness. And while we are the first to recognize and express our gratitude for the dedication of administrators throughout the district, many of these evaluators have not been in classroom for years, and most are evaluating scholastic departments in areas where they’ve never been certified to teach. Even first year administrators with no previous experience are empowered to evaluate all members of a department that they are not recognized by the district to teach. It is clearly an unreasonable and untenable position for the Board to insist that an administrator who is not recognized by the district as qualified to teach in a given scholastic area should nonetheless be empowered to evaluate every teacher within that department. This is clearly not a best administrative practice.
Furthermore, there is no mechanism to ensure transparency. Teachers within a given scholastic department have no means whatsoever to compare and contrast their evaluation with other similarly situated educators. There is no intradepartmental transparency, no interdepartmental transparency, no community-wide transparency and least of all, district-wide transparency. Every teacher has to take, as a matter of faith, that they are treated on par with their coworkers. Again, this is not a best administrative practice. On the contrary, it is among the worst conceived practices in in this or any other profession, and one that teachers will continue to insist be rectified.
To bring attentions to these matters, on Friday, September 19, numerous educators at CHS and Standley Lake H.S. made the choice to raise community awareness by working within the framework of the district’s employment
mandate. The decision to raise community awareness was also made in consultation with administration in an effort to minimize any negative impact on students. Our goal was not to be disruptive, but rather to act in such a way so as to avoid the larger, more costly future disruptions looming on the horizon. And while Friday’s effort involved both JCEA members and non-members, it was nonetheless independent from any corrective efforts currently being taken by the JCEA. In taking Friday’s action, all employees judiciously adhered to the proper procedure for arranging such absences and went so far as to inform the school’s administrative team well in advance of what was to transpire.
Moreover, we were all given the impression that the schools would remain open, and even worked together to provide ample time to develop detailed substitute lesson plans. It wasn’t until the following day that any participating teacher was apprised of the board’s decision to abandon all efforts to find substitute coverage. It is our hope and expectation that the district and their respective administrative teams will accept the responsibility for unilaterally shutting down the affected schools, as this decision was made without informing the acting teachers.
As dedicated professionals with a passion for education, we always hold the very best interests of our students at heart. But many educators have come to realize that something must be done to make our silenced voices heard again. It is our sincere desire to build upon the successes we’ve achieved together over the past several years by encouraging the new board to embrace us as partners in the decision making process, as in years past, rather than treat us as obstacles that have to be overcome. We hope that our respective communities can find strength and understanding in knowing that we are all in this together, and remain passionate about working on behalf of the best interests of our students.
It is our greatest desire that we reestablish the collaborative and cooperative atmosphere that has been the hallmark of relations between Jeffco teachers, administrators, parents and students for years past. The effectiveness of this approach is well justified by the prestigious position Jeffco schools enjoy on both the state and national levels. By working as a team again, we can all address the issues that are dear to us, while avoiding squandering scarce resources and attempting to solve non-existent problems. In the final analysis, we are all dedicated professionals striving to build a better future for our youth. It is in this spirit of service to our students that we ask the board to consider both our concerns and the best interests of Jeffco’s students. Sounds like they're rallying against a totalitarian-like education board. I'd find something like that pretty hard to defend but I'm sure people will find a way ^^
All teachers are liberal nutbags.
All teachers are trying to poison children with liberal brainvenom.
All teachers are greedy *** who only are trying to do the least amount of work possible and squeeze the most possible tax money out of real workers.
If you believe any of these things please volunteer for a full frontal lobotomy.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-24 14:04:32
Who's against teaching the facts? I'm certainly not.
I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. It isn't, it actually helps us as a society because it gives us a reason to be proud to be who we are. Yes, let's teach our children our mistakes in the past and why they are mistakes, but let's also teach our children our accomplishments and why they are good also.
Instead of focusing on the negativity in life, let's strive to be a positive society....
It sounds like that's the problem though. They're only wanting to teach the facts that support patriotism and respect for authority, while leaving out the ones that might teach otherwise.
By Ramyrez 2014-09-24 14:05:05
Quote: I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. It isn't, it actually helps us as a society because it gives us a reason to be proud to be who we are. Yes, let's teach our children our mistakes in the past and why they are mistakes, but let's also teach our children our accomplishments and why they are good also.
You can't teach respect. You can't demand respect. You can teach and demand fear.
You have to earn respect.
"Teaching" patriotism and nationality...no.
Just...no.
Let people decide for themselves where there loyalties are.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-09-24 14:08:04
You know that's only true for that specific class. Why doesn't that one class only protest instead of the entire school (district) as reported on the source article?
Most of the "protesters" do not even understand what they are protesting about, and you know it!
***. You always try to claim ignorance, and you are always wrong in doing so. They know exactly what they are protesting. They aren't 9 year olds.
By Jetackuu 2014-09-24 14:09:15
Is this real, is he really against protesting in favor of trying to use the system to remedy one's problems?
What kind of conservative are you?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 14:09:47
Quote: Kingnobody said:»Who's against teaching the facts? I'm certainly not. They are. Read the report.
Quote: Kingnobody said:» I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. Patriotism is taught? I guess that's where we differ. Patriotism is a form of respect, as Ramy put it. As he also put it, it should be earned. Meaning teach the facts and allow each to come to their conclusion. If they disagree with the course of their nation, they will seek to improve and better it. If they are fine with it.
As an American I would expect your patriotism toward your country to manifest itself through your desire to defend your greatest rights and liberties, as well as the environment that has allowed your nation to excel and become the world's superpower. That environment wasn't built on censorship and sweeping facts under the rug. If you were really patriotic, you would want to see your country continue to flourish and progress.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-09-24 14:13:19
I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. It isn't, it actually helps us as a society because it gives us a reason to be proud to be who we are. Because that is indoctrination. You don't teach patriotism, nationality, or respect. Being patriotic, nationalistic, or respectful just because someone told you you should is the absolute wrong reason.
Yes, let's teach our children our mistakes in the past and why they are mistakes, but let's also teach our children our accomplishments and why they are good also. That's what we call teaching history.
If you think people can't be respectful, patriotic, or nationalistic when given accurate depictions of the history of the country.... well, then that tells you something about the history, doesn't it?
By volkom 2014-09-24 14:15:18
not all employers are nice
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-09-24 14:16:52
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »Quote: I just don't understand why people think that teaching patriotism and nationality and respect is a bad thing. It isn't, it actually helps us as a society because it gives us a reason to be proud to be who we are. Yes, let's teach our children our mistakes in the past and why they are mistakes, but let's also teach our children our accomplishments and why they are good also.
You can't teach respect. You can't demand respect. You can teach and demand fear.
You have to earn respect.
"Teaching" patriotism and nationality...no.
Just...no.
Let people decide for themselves where there loyalties are. Really, now? How about you go up to your employer, you know... that nice person that provides you with a JOB and a PAYCHECK and tell him or her that you don't respect him (or her, as the case may be), because they haven't earned it. I'd like to know how long after being told that, that you keep your job for.
Thats the problem with many companies right now. You treat your employees like *** and while they won't outright rebel against you, they find little ways to make the company more inefficient and shitty.
And yes, I can tell my boss I don't respect him without actually saying it. It's called doing just enough to not get fired.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 14:17:58
not all employers are nice that and there's telling someone you respect them out of fear, and then there's really respecting them sincerely.
I find it amusing that certain republicans can't differentiate the difference between the two.... its really a window into their psyche.... and i don't like what I see.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2014-09-24 14:21:18
Quote: well, then that tells you something about the history, doesn't it? This!!!!
Quote: Denver area students walk out of school in protest
Students protest outside of Ralston Valley High School, Tuesday, Sept. 23, 2014, in Arvada, Colo.
ARVADA, Colo. (AP) — Hundreds of students walked out of classrooms around suburban Denver on Tuesday in protest over a conservative-led school board proposal to focus history education on topics that promote citizenship, patriotism and respect for authority, in a show of civil disobedience that the new standards would aim to downplay.
The youth protest involving six high schools in the state's second-largest school district follows a sick-out from teachers that shut down two high schools in the politically and economically diverse area that has become a key political battleground.
Student participants said their demonstration was organized by word of mouth and social media. Many waved American flags and carried signs, including messages that read "There is nothing more patriotic than protest."
"I don't think my education should be censored. We should be able to know what happened in our past," said Tori Leu, a 17-year-old student who protested at Ralston Valley High School in Arvada.
The school board proposal that triggered the walkouts in Jefferson County calls for instructional materials that present positive aspects of the nation and its heritage. It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law."
The proposal from Julie Williams, part of the board's conservative majority, has not been voted on and was put on hold last week. She didn't return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment Tuesday, but previously told Chalkbeat Colorado, a school news website, that she recognizes there are negative events that are part of U.S. history that need to be taught.
Students protest outside of Ralston Valley High School, Sept. 23, 2014, in Arvada, Colo.
"There are things we may not be proud of as Americans," she said. "But we shouldn't be encouraging our kids to think that America is a bad place."
A student demonstrator, Tyrone G. Parks, a senior at Arvada High School, said Tuesday that the nation's foundation was built on civil protests, "and everything that we've done is what allowed us to be at this point today. And if you take that from us, you take away everything that America was built off of."
The proposal comes from an elected board with three conservative members who took office in November. The other two board members were elected in 2011 and oppose the new plan, which was drafted in response to a national framework for teaching history that supporters say encourages discussion and critical thinking. Detractors, however, say it puts an outsize emphasis on the nation's problems.
Tension over high school education has cropped up recently in Texas, where conservative school board officials are facing criticism over new textbooks. Meanwhile, in South Carolina, conservatives have called on an education oversight committee to ask the College Board, which oversees Advanced Placement courses, to rewrite their framework to make sure there is no ideological bias.
The College Board says the outline provides a balanced view of American history, and officials plan clarify instructions to teachers to make that clear by the end of the month.
Participating students were not punished, school district spokeswoman Lynn Setzer said. They will receive unexcused absences unless their parents call to relay permission for missed classes, Setzer said.
Superintendent Dan McMinimee has met with some of the students and renewed his offer to continue discussions on the issue. "I respect the right of our students to express their opinions in a peaceful manner," he said. "I do, however, prefer that our students stay in class."
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