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Mass rise in children crossing into the US
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:08:35
If Canada wants them and the U.S. doesn't, why aren't more immigrants heading to Canada then?
Canada doesn't have the greatest climate, and a lot of that undeveloped land is practically on a glacier. Tropics to tundra is harder than it looks. Actually, it isn't the tundra I was implying. A lot of it is undeveloped countryside land, which can be a rough climate to adapt to in and of itself, even for American farmhands that have moved north.
Incidentally, it's also what a lot of AWOL American soldiers who opposed the war went to do, to avoid being discovered and brought back on charges of desertion.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-15 15:09:04
So Canada wants them but it sucks at taking them, while the U.S. doesn't want them but is really good at taking them? Man, governments are dumb.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:10:19
To put it in proper perspective, legal immigration in somewhere between 500k-1500k, per year. It is somewhat difficult to determine the actual number from homeland security, due to how they differentiate between permanent vs temporary.
Or to give you a true sense of scale, it is roughly a 0.1% change in the overall population.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-15 15:10:29
Right, cause a substantial portion of them aren't carrying dangerous infections diseases or anything. Such as...? Would be nice if we could know more but we can't cause DHS is preventing any additional investigation of the doctors and medical staff involved.
Instead they issued this:
DHS has public health controls in place to minimize any possible health risks. Throughout the RGV Sector we are conducting public health screens on all incoming detainees to screen for any symptoms of contagious diseases of possible public health concern. U.S. Border Patrol has established Medical Units at its busiest border stations (McAllen, Weslaco, and Ft Brown) handling UAC. US Coast Guard medical teams are assisting with the screening process, and providing healthcare evaluations for the sick and injured.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-15 15:10:51
@bloodrose
can you homestead up there?
I might go someday if I can just claim some land as my own.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-07-15 15:12:39
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Quote: This is… troubling. /ctrl-w
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:14:47
Right, cause a substantial portion of them aren't carrying dangerous infections diseases or anything. Such as...?
There have been reports of tuberculosis outbreaks in the relief centers.
Hell, there were warnings for measles outbreaks the past couple of times I travelled back to the US.
Friggin measles.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:15:58
So Canada wants them but it sucks at taking them, while the U.S. doesn't want them but is really good at taking them? Man, governments are dumb. My brother said something funny little while ago:
'Governments work like this: "Oh look, a group of stupid people... let's form a government!"'
Little do they realize... they ARE that group of stupid people
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-15 15:16:20
Hell, there were warnings for measles outbreaks the past couple of times I travelled back to the US.
Friggin measles.
blame jenny mccarthy
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:17:17
@bloodrose
can you homestead up there?
I might go someday if I can just claim some land as my own. Honestly? Not sure. The housing and property market, while 20% higher and profitable than the US currently, isn't quite that open. I'd have to do more research into it, to find out what's possible.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-07-15 15:18:29
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »So Canada wants them but it sucks at taking them, while the U.S. doesn't want them but is really good at taking them? Man, governments are dumb. My brother said something funny little while ago:
'Governments work like this: "Oh look, a group of stupid people... let's form a government!"'
Little do they realize... they ARE that group of stupid people
But in a nation with any real form of democracy, the stupid people in government are kept in office by stupid people voting for them.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:19:01
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »So Canada wants them but it sucks at taking them, while the U.S. doesn't want them but is really good at taking them? Man, governments are dumb. My brother said something funny little while ago:
'Governments work like this: "Oh look, a group of stupid people... let's form a government!"'
Little do they realize... they ARE that group of stupid people
But in a nation with any real form of democracy, the stupid people in government are kept in office by stupid people voting for them. Or, the stupid people refusing to vote them OUT of office
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:19:06
Right, cause a substantial portion of them aren't carrying dangerous infections diseases or anything. Such as...? Would be nice if we could know more but we can't cause DHS is preventing any additional investigation of the doctors and medical staff involved.
Instead they issued this:
DHS has public health controls in place to minimize any possible health risks. Throughout the RGV Sector we are conducting public health screens on all incoming detainees to screen for any symptoms of contagious diseases of possible public health concern. U.S. Border Patrol has established Medical Units at its busiest border stations (McAllen, Weslaco, and Ft Brown) handling UAC. US Coast Guard medical teams are assisting with the screening process, and providing healthcare evaluations for the sick and injured.Of those, the resistant staph should be the only real concern; scabies is a treatable parasite, and vaccinations exist for chicken pox (let alone childhood exposure).
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-15 15:19:32
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Honestly?
ya. I was bored the other day looking to find unclaimed land, & it turns out there isn't any, barring antarctica. but you can buy some islands at fairly reasonable prices.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:21:53
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Honestly?
ya. I was bored the other day looking to find unclaimed land, & it turns out there isn't any, barring antarctica. but you can buy some islands at fairly reasonable prices. Yeah, I saw some pretty decent sized islands that go for roughly 2.5mil-4-5mil, which end up being almost the size of a mid-size community.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-07-15 15:24:05
undeveloped, you can find one for 200-400K.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-07-15 15:25:19
yeah, but those are dinky islands.
And I want one already semi-developed, because I am far from being a homebuilder, or master craftsman.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-15 15:27:07
Right, cause a substantial portion of them aren't carrying dangerous infections diseases or anything. Such as...? Would be nice if we could know more but we can't cause DHS is preventing any additional investigation of the doctors and medical staff involved.
Instead they issued this:
DHS has public health controls in place to minimize any possible health risks. Throughout the RGV Sector we are conducting public health screens on all incoming detainees to screen for any symptoms of contagious diseases of possible public health concern. U.S. Border Patrol has established Medical Units at its busiest border stations (McAllen, Weslaco, and Ft Brown) handling UAC. US Coast Guard medical teams are assisting with the screening process, and providing healthcare evaluations for the sick and injured.Of those, the resistant staph should be the only real concern; scabies is a treatable parasite, and vaccinations exist for chicken pox (let alone childhood exposure).
That's ridiculous! you'd advocate for letting people immigrate here who are infected with dangerous diseases?
It isn't uncommon that chicken pox is FATAL in adults.
Gonorrhea is "treatable" too, but that doesn't mean I don't wear a prophylactic.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-15 15:28:31
undeveloped, you can find one for 200-400K.
Why do you need to buy them? Just go claim em!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:36:36
Right, cause a substantial portion of them aren't carrying dangerous infections diseases or anything. Such as...? Would be nice if we could know more but we can't cause DHS is preventing any additional investigation of the doctors and medical staff involved.
Instead they issued this:
DHS has public health controls in place to minimize any possible health risks. Throughout the RGV Sector we are conducting public health screens on all incoming detainees to screen for any symptoms of contagious diseases of possible public health concern. U.S. Border Patrol has established Medical Units at its busiest border stations (McAllen, Weslaco, and Ft Brown) handling UAC. US Coast Guard medical teams are assisting with the screening process, and providing healthcare evaluations for the sick and injured.Of those, the resistant staph should be the only real concern; scabies is a treatable parasite, and vaccinations exist for chicken pox (let alone childhood exposure).
That's ridiculous! you'd advocate for letting people immigrate here who are infected with dangerous diseases?
It isn't uncommon that chicken pox is FATAL in adults.
Gonorrhea is "treatable" too, but that doesn't mean I don't wear a prophylactic. Yes, chicken pox can be fatal in adults, which is why a good proportion of people are exposed to it as a child.
You can also be vaccinated against it as well.
Not getting vaccinated for these diseases is stupid, unless you are allergic/have other immune issues.
Seriously, this is a conversation one normally has with kindergardeners/elementary school students.
Don't lump things like MRSA with chickenpox or scabies. They have nowhere near the same severity.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-07-15 15:43:41
So when I travel abroad and they quarantine me cause I have chickenpox, I should just tell them that Milamber sez its NBD.
On another note, how can people laugh at the "vaccinations are evil" lunatics on one hand but say NBD to vaccinated illegal immigrants flooding the schools?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:55:06
So when I travel abroad and they quarantine me cause I have chickenpox, I should just tell them that Milamber sez its NBD.  
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-07-15 15:59:04
On another note, how can people laugh at the "vaccinations are evil" lunatics on one hand but say NBD to vaccinated illegal immigrants flooding the schools? They probably engage this organ:
Before this:
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-15 16:10:43
So what's the final solution to this immigration problem here?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-15 16:12:02
American culture is raping and pillaging for a buck. No more no less. Only guy who really gets America's true identity. But you forgot the part about how the U.S. does it with good intentions, because they know better than the rest of the world.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-07-15 16:20:36
The comments at the end of this article ...they are just lovely.
A sampler.
Quote: Quote: DEMOCRAT PEDOPHILES WILL RUSH TO ARIZONA TO BEFRIEND ALL THOSE LITTLE ILLEGAL MEXICAN BOYS GIVING THEM LITTLE BOYS STDs and HIV
All those cute little Mexican boys at detention centers will be receiving all the love that a Democrat pedophile can give them. The LOVE DECEASE they get will cause problems when they are united with their families after Amnesty. Quote: Americans who are Americans should beat the daylights out of every Democrat voter they know for what they did to our Country with this Muslim in Chief! Quote: Diversity in ALL and ONLY white countries?
Diversity means chasing down Every Last White Person
"Diversity" is a code word for White Genocide Quote: Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
White Countries for Everyone
Diversity is a codeword for White Genocide
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-07-15 16:23:38
Don't read the comments section of any news site, your brain will turn to cottage cheese from the dumbfucks armed with a keyboard.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-07-15 16:25:45
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Don't read the comments section of any news site, your brain will turn to cottage cheese from the dumbfucks armed with a keyboard. The comments are the most entertaining part, up until a point that is.
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By Jetackuu 2014-07-15 16:25:45
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Don't read the comments section of any news site, your brain will turn to cottage cheese from the dumbfucks armed with a keyboard.
Certain people here look like they copy/paste their arguments from them at times.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-07-15 16:28:47
Sums up the mentality of the people who post in comments sections on news sites.
Ill Eagles ***.
Quote: Immigrant Children Crossing into the US
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — As many as 1,200 children who were detained while trying to enter the U.S. illegally will be taken to Fort Sill this week as federal officials try to find their families or place them with a sponsor, federal and military officials said Monday.
The unaccompanied minors, most of them teenagers from Central America, will start arriving at Fort Sill from Arizona starting Friday, according to Fort Sill and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. The children and teens are among the more than 47,000 unaccompanied minors taken into custody at the border since October.
Federal authorities plan to use a holding facility in Nogales, Arizona, as a way station where the children will be vaccinated and checked medically before being sent to Fort Sill and other housing facilities in Texas and California.
Fort Sill said it will temporarily hold between 600 and 1,200 minors in vacant housing at the Army post for up to four months, or as long as directed. DHHS’s Administration for Children and Families will be responsible for their care.
“Fort Sill will provide a vacant facility historically used by soldiers set apart from main post that offers sleeping quarters, bathing and toilet facilities, as well as multi-purpose gathering space,” Keith Pannell and Nancy Elliott, spokespeople for Fort Sill, said in a statement released Monday.
Oklahoma’s congressional delegation criticized the plan, saying military bases shouldn’t be used for such purposes.
“Using Fort Sill and other military bases to house illegal immigrants is simply an inappropriate use of military facilities,” said Republican Rep. Tom Cole, whose district includes the Army post about 85 miles southwest of Oklahoma City. “Moreover, I am concerned that what begins as an emergency measure could, over time, evolve into a permanent juvenile detention center for those who have entered the country illegally.”
The move is part of the Unaccompanied Alien Children program, which provides foster care, group homes and residential treatment centers for minors who try to cross the border without their parents or guardians. It also provides classroom education, health care, vocational training and legal services, according to DHHS’s website.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security last month started flying immigrants in the U.S. illegally to Arizona from the Rio Grande Valley in Texas after the number of immigrants — including more than 48,000 children traveling on their own — overwhelmed the Border Patrol there.
Immigrant families were flown from Texas and released in Arizona, then told to report to a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement office near where they were traveling within 15 days. ICE has said the immigrants were mostly families from Central America fleeing extreme poverty and violence.
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