The Next Super Smash Bros.

So today on Kotaku there is an article about how Sakurai chooses the roster and it's almost like he's purposely being a troll.

http://kotaku.com/smash-bros-creator-explains-how-characters-get-on-the-1644208199

If it's tl;dr I'll break it down for you.

1. "We conduct a character popularity poll both domestically and internationally." Okay so I'm pretty sure Ridley would of been there somewhere...

2. "Does the character have something inherently unique about them? Can that be used to make Smash Bros. interesting?" what the hell does Dark Pit or Lucina bring in this aspect? Eh?!

3. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen. Also, fighters that switch models are a different matter." So... Mother 4, F-Zero WiiU, Metroid WiiU, Starfox WiiU confirmed?! This guy man I swear...

4. "Basically, any character is accepted if I believe it works [in the game]. On the other hand, even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected." Cloooooooooones...

I believe number 4 prevents Ridley from participating.

I mean, how can he really fight? Bowser Jr. and the clown car barely makes it as a fighter, but Ridley is too big and bulky imo.

No future? Umm... Pac man hasn't had a relevant game in how long?

Also lol @ that list but then dark pit

Pac Man is merely the mascot of a company that is very much relevant nowadays.
Regarding Ridley, it may be due to the same reason as Ice Climbers being left out.

Now, there are clearly too many clones, but beyond that, they're not even smart about them. They could have given Lucina Roy's attacks rather than make a simple Marth clone. After all, his B was completely removed from the franchise, and that's a loss in variety.

They make good things like Ike in term of cloning and then they make ***like you say, Dark Pit.

But overall, the game lost a lot just because it was made on 3DS. The should have made a 3DS version that acts as a teaser and then a Wii U version that acts as a real meal. They scrapped so much because of the 3DS alone, without even taking into consideration the ignoring of the polls and other feedbacks, that while the game offers a lot of good stuff, it still feels like things are lacking left and right when I go through the menus.

What the *** happened to the proper challenges? I don't even remember if they removed them for Brawl back then, but that would be a good thing to bring back.

The "too big" excuse for Ridley is invalid because in the main series Bowser is huge. Like skyscraper huge. They shrunk him down to Luigi's height to play golf, tennis, go go-kart riding you get the idea.

I am not a Ridley fanboy or anything in fact I never really liked the Metroid games. Don't even think I've finished one aside from Super Metroid.

But I do strongly believe in each series having AT LEAST 2 UNIQUE representatives of each franchise.

Mother/Earthbound: Anyone else would of been unique besides Lucas.

F-Zero: Samurai Goroh, The Doc, etc

Metroid: Ridley any of the other bounty hunters from the DS game.

Just to name a few. I mean heck we've had more Fire Emblem characters represented which was a franchise that didn't make it worldwide until Smash Bros sparked an interest.

You know, I was looking at some old VG Cats comics and remembered this one:



How strangely appropriate for this thread.....

(conspiracy theory: Nintendo execs read VG Cats!)

Mother has like no representation in the US and FZero has been on ice for a while now. From a racing franchise do we really anyone besides Captain Falcon? I mean Falcon didn't really blow up until he became memeworthy.

Ridley's absence is only noteworthy because he's Samus' Bowser/Ganondorf and comes from a massive franchise. Really, it's like Pikachu not being in Smash. Gimmicky characters like Game&Watch and ROB are cool but when we get Shulk it only makes you scratch your head as to why some choices are made.

Shulk is dabess shut yo mouf

Shulk is badass, no doubt about it.

Roy Shulks our boy!

Said-people are probably just not feeling it.

I felt it last night. All too well....

Shulk has one of the worst stages in 3DS smash. Not quite 75m or New Pork City but yeah, it's pretty fkn bad.

Also, whats up with all the bad stages? Many of the good Melee/Brawl ones have been replaced with inferior crap. Why?

I'm up for another assbeating match with anyone tonight at about 9:30 P.M. CST.

Any takers?

I love disappointing all the 14 year olds that thought playing for glory would be "fun"

I have tonight off, so count me in. Tiger, you want to get a few games in tonight too?

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Shulk's inclusion in Smash 4 is entirely logical. Xenoblade launched to widespread critical acclaim less than a year beforehand and OpRainfall's success saw it localized for NA right as development began for Smash 4. I've considered him a shoo-in ever since Smash 4 was announced. The fact that Xenoblade has since gotten a reprint and has both a remake and a sequel underway is just icing on the cake.

The clones on the other hand... I remain disappointed by their implementation, especially Lucina and Dark Pit. So much wasted potential there.

As far as the stages go I agree, but the stagelist for Wii U will mostly be different so there's hope for a better stagelist there. There's a few stages that are just too gimmicky for my tastes even in FFAs.

Yea; I got your friend code in already. I'm down

Gaur plain btw is the best stage

I thought that they were going to go away from clones this time. Wasn't that in one of the interviews with the developers?

Sounds good, shoot me a message when you're free.

Yup, then they did it anyway. I kinda get Doc because of his Melee moveset, but the other two really feel like filler. Hasn't stopped me from using Lucina (landing tippers is a *** online), but I would've preferred a unique moveset.

Roy was my main in Melee, I miss him.

But then I tried competing at EVO with him and I realized why it wasn't a good idea. *** you Fox.

Any other good Smash Runner except the good old Yoshi technique from Melee?

I'm also surprised they left the Donkey Kong cheese in Multi Man.

You should check out Project M, Roy is pretty good there. I've been a Marth main since forever but some of Roy's tools in that game honestly make me jealous. It's what he should have been like from the start.

I have time for a few now if you're on

Sure, I'll be online in 5 minutes.

Alright; will be about the same for me gotta take out the trash

Back, heading online

Alright, I've got a room set up.

hmm not seeing it; I coulda sworn I added you. What's your handle/tag?

Edit: It says you're online, but doesn't say you have a room set up. InfinityCX, right?