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Hey Jaerik, thanks for all that scientific posting re: the Nuclear power plants...
I don't know if I should compare you to  or   or maybe this guy....for laughs..  some how I don't see Jae, being Bill Nye for some reason... the trench coat prolly doesn't do it for ya!! LOL He wore his bow tie on the news too
Holy ***? Prof. Frink= Bill Nye? Both have bow ties :o Noooo hydrogen embrittlement talk
/wrist. Must not remember various pressure temperature limit Fenrir.Schutz said: Not panicking is very wise, but not painting a rosey picture until it's all-clear might be wise also. :/ The problem is, people seem to be almost wanting Michael Bay levels of disaster here just for the excitement factor, and it's significantly infecting the foreign media coverage of the situation. Catastrophe, isn't any water cold, safe at this point though?
What choices does Japan have left? Caitsith.Neonracer said: Hey Jaerik, thanks for all that scientific posting re: the Nuclear power plants... ^This and to Dasva and Catastrophe too. Kind of funny I've been coming here (and the BBC link) for information rather than sitting in my living room watching the news. Thanks for updates and better information than what we're getting from national news here. Hey , Anything with Jaerik and Dasv and Cat, this whole thread, imo, has been sparkling like a Christmas tree all day... its why I haven't been able to do anything but read on ffxiah, all day, to get the most of my news.
Caitsith.Neonracer said: Catastrophe, isn't any water cold, safe at this point though? What choices does Japan have left? Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Fenrir.Schutz said: Not panicking is very wise, but not painting a rosey picture until it's all-clear might be wise also. :/ Yah, it's bad in that regard. It's like every news story is obligated to include the "what if" description of the ultimate catastrophic chain of events (should the worst happen) within two paragraphs of stating any new updates on the status of the reactors--which usually takes up more of the story exposition than the scant updated portion does. :/ Bahamut.Dasva said: Caitsith.Neonracer said: Catastrophe, isn't any water cold, safe at this point though? What choices does Japan have left? More specifically, pure water is the best. Ions and other components of salt water will become more "activated"--will absorb neutrons given off by the rods and become radioactive. On another note: Explosion at 2nd reactor in Fukushima. 3rd to have happened in 4 days. Quote: 0005: Radioactive materials are feared to be leaking at Fukushima, Kyodo reports quoting a safety agency. Quote: 0008: martyn_williams tweets: "Tepco (Tokyo Electric Power Company) erred by starting with apology - making it seem big increase in seriousness - then unable to follow with simple explanation." Quote: 0013: An article in the Japan Times says: "The radioactive fuel rods at the No. 2 reactor of the Fukushima No. 1 power station were fully exposed at one point Monday, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said, raising the possibility that it suffered a partial core meltdown." Ragnarok.Anye said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Caitsith.Neonracer said: Catastrophe, isn't any water cold, safe at this point though? What choices does Japan have left? More specifically, pure water is the best. Ions and other components of salt water will become more "activated"--will absorb neutrons given off by the rods and become radioactive. On another note: Explosion at 2nd reactor in Fukushima. 3rd to have happened in 4 days. Which is part of the reason most the 4th gen plants in the works don't use water. Water was just nice cause it worked as a decent coolant a moderator and reflector and there is tons of it everywhere. Led to some greater inherent stability. Asura.Catastrophe said: The article just suggest like they're going to just replace the core and its instrumentation and it'll be that easy. Asura.Catastrophe said: Caitsith.Neonracer said: Catastrophe, isn't any water cold, safe at this point though? What choices does Japan have left? Oh I'm not criticizing. The article just suggest like they're going to just replace the core and its instrumentation and it'll be that easy. I'm just saying that injecting seawater at the temperatures and pressures the coolant was at isn't exactly carbon steel/alloy 825 SS pleasant. Stainless steel can withstand a lot of it based on its Nickel and Chromium content, but I can't imagine it still being a recommended alternative just letting it sit in there for 10 days and then decide to flush it out and not expect there to be damage. On carbon steel (if they use any in conjunction to their RCIC since they have no steam generator), for instance, it would be literally eaten away in MINUTES. Never thought You did Cat.. You and Dasv and myself , looks like we've all been enjoying the good banter between us.. that's a good thing! XD Asura.Catastrophe said: I'm not entirely sure they keep Zinc anodes in the primary system either, but I could be wrong. Davs, if they went the Zinc method tho, would there be less waste to clean up after, b.c didn't Jaerik or Anye mention that sea water will still produce waste? Either or, there will still be waste to clean up, regardless..
Asura.Catastrophe said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Catastrophe said: I'm not entirely sure they keep Zinc anodes in the primary system either, but I could be wrong. I doubt any chemist decided that it was prudent to try and maintain and prevent galvanic corrosion amidst all the problems. Caitsith.Neonracer said: Davs, if they went the Zinc method tho, would there be less waste to clean up after, b.c didn't Jaerik or Anye mention that sea water will still produce waste? Either or, there will still be waste to clean up, regardless.. Yeah all the water will have to be disposed of and/or cleaned. Pretty much everything in it will be activated and there is alot of ***in sea water. Poor sea critters :( Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Fenrir.Schutz said: Not panicking is very wise, but not painting a rosey picture until it's all-clear might be wise also. :/ The problem is, people seem to be almost wanting Michael Bay levels of disaster here just for the excitement factor, and it's significantly infecting the foreign media coverage of the situation. When I heard the media say "Chernobyl" I pretty much realized how far-fetched the general coverage on the situation must have been. However I can understand a lot of people getting scared. I don't know who helped Chernobyl into the world, but it's media at its worst. Asura.Catastrophe said: I heard a lot of stories about ELTs making people drink the primary solution with NH4OH- in it. Asura.Catastrophe said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Asura.Catastrophe said: I heard a lot of stories about ELTs making people drink the primary solution with NH4OH- in it. |
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