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By LightningHelix 2026-07-09 09:03:00
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Valefor.Philemon said: »
Probably will do VD for the title, then slowly collect the body pieces from Trove.
Are they already in there? I thought Shinryu took a few months to get added but I've forgotten.
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By Asura.Melliny 2026-07-09 09:03:24
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I still use my desultor tassels for the phantom roll recast aug. If the ilvl versions can’t be augmented I think I’d stick with the original when we get to the shantotto fight since the Ilvl stats are so underwhelming.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-07-09 09:20:54
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LightningHelix said: »
Valefor.Philemon said: »
Probably will do VD for the title, then slowly collect the body pieces from Trove.
Are they already in there? I thought Shinryu took a few months to get added but I've forgotten.
If CoD is any indication, they will be.
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By Bahamut.Noscrying 2026-07-09 09:42:21
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LightningHelix said: »
Valefor.Philemon said: »
Probably will do VD for the title, then slowly collect the body pieces from Trove.
Are they already in there? I thought Shinryu took a few months to get added but I've forgotten.

Crystal Crusher.
Ah, the bodies in trove, you meant.
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By Genoxd 2026-07-09 10:09:39
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Menu IDs shifted. SE deleted floor 1 in central temenos and then the rest of them they deleted floors 1 through 3

What do you mean menu IDs shifted. Can you elaborate please?

If you go to floor 1 you'll end up on the old floor 1 which still exists and is now totally empty except for the exit porter back. Which I totally know because of a friend >_>
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By Cerberus.Dekar 2026-07-09 10:21:19
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Jeez, there's a few small gems in this update, but most of those drops are utterly disappointing. It's abundantly clearly they have no idea how jobs or battle content in this game function.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-07-09 10:48:44
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It's sad when I looked at the ammo and thought "nice, a Resist Charm piece for my all-resist-set!"

Seriously bad, but definitely more to help newer players who don't have R20 Odyssey gear or whatever.

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Silver lining, if you were contemplating changing your Nyame B to something else, and counting whatever jobs already have a WSD+ JSE body or Mirce Wardecors, here are the few jobs that would lose WSD in the body slot:

GEO BLM SCH RDM* WHM PLD DRG* NIN*

Only taking the serious jobs that do melee, DRG and RDM (SCH/SMN) do have a PDL body piece in Empyrean +3 and R30 Bunzi's Robe respectively, for when they are attack capped. I don't think there is a WSD body either can wear when not capped, but DRG probably could afford to lose 12WSD since it has a lot in traits anyways. RDM would just have to eat the loss which is not ideal.

NIN loses a huge Hybrid-WS body if it downgrades to Mirce Wardecors, which IMO is its best set of WS.

GEO/PLD would lose a good WSD Nyame body for sure, but both are lower on the DPS ladder anyhow during Aminon/Sortie bosses, so that could be a worthwhile sacrifice to open up for other jobs.

Other Negatives:
-Mirce Wardecors has low STR and less Attack and Ranged Attack vs Ranked Nyame, and no Skillchain Bonus (kinda minor).
-Also is job-limited
-SAM is same as NIN for hybrid, but Relic+4 body is still very good so it could make out fine, and Mumei is busted AF anyways so you never NEED to hybrid (or just eat the loss, you're a SAM...)
-RNG + DNC downgrades with new WSD body vs Nyame, but they are already able to be very strong with Hover Shot + Climactic Flourish WS, so kind of minimal loss.
-RUN downgrades too, but lolDD RUN in 2026

Interested to see if they continue this trend with the legs and hat pieces from the other HTBFs (if they go that route) in future. Might give more openings to move off of Nyame B for some jobs if they can fill the WSD gap elsewhere.
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By gargurty 2026-07-09 11:05:02
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is this the new trend of SE. Make updates and content with weaker rewards?
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By Tarage 2026-07-09 11:05:05
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Topace said: »
genuinely asking but when is a summoner require to MB in a serious fight that the damage means something?

Never.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2026-07-09 11:08:17
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Someone let SE know that lots of cool games are being released in the later half of 2026 and it might be better to cater to mastery rank 10 chasers as opposed to all the mules running around;
On second thought, they already know and this will allow people to ignore this content and continue looking for that one title that will ding them
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By GetHelpNerd 2026-07-09 11:24:57
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i mean they released new BIS gear and you guys all decided you didn't want to do the content and complain about it endlessly.. this is clearly stepping stone gear/an alternate event for non-BIS or newer players.

i'm never even sure what FFXI players want anymore
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-07-09 11:26:52
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They want to continue wishing on the monkeys paw and continue to complain about the results.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-07-09 11:27:31
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GetHelpNerd said: »
i'm never even sure what FFXI players want anymore

they want sortie gear without being expected to meet consistently

and odyssey gear without being expected to play at a high level

also limbus gear without having to grind for a long time

[mythics without having to do tokens, empyreans without having to camp sisyphus, and bonanza weapons without having to win a random]
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-07-09 11:33:55
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What's kinda funny about this to me, is that it's the same as when these add-ons came out. Well, slightly different but...

When these add-ons came out in March of 2009, the augments you could place onto the bodies, outside of the weird niche stuff like Call beast Timer -15, the DD options you could put onto them were scoffed at even then for any serious players (a lotta DRGs were happy they could finally had a Hauby equivalent in Nuevo, but a lot of them were casual and missed the forest for the trees).

By March 2009 the game already had bodies:

Haubergeon +1 / Hauberk +1
Armada Hauberk
Kirin's Osode
Askar Korazin
Zahak's Mail
Avalon Breastplate
Aurum Cuirass
Hydra Mail +1
Hecatomb Harness
Ares' Cuirass
Homam Corazza
Shadow Breastplate
Byrnie +1
Usukane Haramaki


And I'm sure a whole list of mage equivalents and all that jazz.

Of course, the appeal of these bodies originally was that you could customize them with the augments to suit your wants/needs, but they were mostly in no way earthshattering must-haves. Like I remember most folks giving the Redingote melee stats, and talking it up a bunch. And almost everybody that I knew that wasn't Salvage banned, including myself, made Mirke Wardecors for MNK/NIN/BST/BLU.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-07-09 11:46:35
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Asura.Vyre said: »
the appeal of these bodies originally was that you could customize them with the augments to suit your wants/needs

They would never invest the effort into this (actually maybe they could have, Limbus augment process is convoluted AF), but it would have been cool if you could trade the new body + original back to the Treasure Chest in Lower Jeuno, and be offered the option for higher level [3] augments of the original stats. This would have allowed some cool customization options for gear, and would allow for repeat playability of both the missions (you need the original body to perform the augmentation upgrade) and the HTBF.

Make drops on bodies rarer and implement some sort of weekly reset before you can create another augmented body to eliminate people swapping out rewards daily to meet needs (i.e. requires mission to be repeated after conquest reset, before you can re-augment). Same for weapons to make them more competitive and appealing.

I would have been all for a "[1]Quick Draw Ability Delay -20, [2]STP+10, [3]Magic Attack Bonus +35" Mirce Wardecors, or a "Call Beast Ability Delay - 45" to make pet swapping on BST more forgiving. They missed a cool opportunity here.
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By Dodik 2026-07-09 11:55:10
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I think the update is fine.

It's ambu+3 gear that is a direct drop from htbf.

The frak you all whining about.

This is just bodies, but likely will be able to get rid of stuff like flanma+2 head once the rest is out.
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By Tarage 2026-07-09 11:58:29
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Asura.Vyre said: »
What's kinda funny about this to me, is that it's the same as when these add-ons came out. Well, slightly different but...

When these add-ons came out in March of 2009, the augments you could place onto the bodies, outside of the weird niche stuff like Call beast Timer -15, the DD options you could put onto them were scoffed at even then for any serious players (a lotta DRGs were happy they could finally had a Hauby equivalent in Nuevo, but a lot of them were casual and missed the forest for the trees).

By March 2009 the game already had bodies:

Haubergeon +1 / Hauberk +1
Armada Hauberk
Kirin's Osode
Askar Korazin
Zahak's Mail
Avalon Breastplate
Aurum Cuirass
Hydra Mail +1
Hecatomb Harness
Ares' Cuirass
Homam Corazza
Shadow Breastplate
Byrnie +1
Usukane Haramaki


And I'm sure a whole list of mage equivalents and all that jazz.

Of course, the appeal of these bodies originally was that you could customize them with the augments to suit your wants/needs, but they were mostly in no way earthshattering must-haves. Like I remember most folks giving the Redingote melee stats, and talking it up a bunch. And almost everybody that I knew that wasn't Salvage banned, including myself, made Mirke Wardecors for MNK/NIN/BST/BLU.

I will speak directly for the mage body, because I took it on SMN. The augment of -2 perp cost matched the at the time BIS Penance Robe that was very expensive and hard to come by. It also had some interesting pet buffs not really seem before. I got one as quickly as I could, and it immediately improved my SMN.

The new body is worse than gear released over 10 years ago. At no point in time would it be considered useful.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-07-09 12:32:23
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Dodik said: »
but likely will be able to get rid of stuff like flanma+2 head once the rest is out.

Nupe. Flama head +2 is still being included in some of the melee sets for heavy DDs on the BG wiki page. They just work around the non-native -DT stat. So long as there are so many other ways to cap/mid-cap -DT, Flamma Head will find a place in those sims. STP+TA is too good to NOT be BIS on "da sims".

(Just a messenger, don't blame me, i don't advocate for it, but it's publicly visible to all)