New Trust System - Who Will You Upgrade First?

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New trust system - Who will you upgrade first?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-10 11:13:37
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I think someone tested and found that the spermys have a really really ridiculously high macc stat that makes it impossible to resist their sleepgas.
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-03-10 11:34:48
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Like pretty much everyone else, defensive stats first, and then offensive ones last.

HP -> MND + INT -> VIT -> AGI -> MP -> STR -> DEX -> CHR for me.

We joke about Qultada, but I won't mind having the physical stats for Ayame and Shikaree Z or any other trust that performs skillchains in an orderly way.

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By Chimerawizard 2026-03-10 13:29:54
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HP/VIT > MND/INT > DEX > STR/AGI > Hodor 1000 > MP/CHR

I'm very much open to adjusting order of VIT & mental stats.
See no point in upgrading MP or CHR, may as well just save for secondary stats instead if those even ever get added.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 13:39:38
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If you wait 6 months or a year etc you can instacap fastcast or haste or DT or WSD or meva or whatever they eventually figure out trusts actually need.
(subtle blow, please, a full 100%)

But there is a cap so you gotta spend
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-10 13:50:08
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Eiryl with more false statements, must be a day ending in “y”:
If you believe they will add further customizations in the future, dump the trust pages in storage and use them later when/if they add other stats / raise the cap

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By denied 2026-03-10 14:08:23
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Since they took away the "Filled Memory Gem" KI which gave stat bonuses to all trusts... How do these Alter ego points compare to that old KI? I capped out HP but doesn't seem like much changed? Can anyone confirm how much better the points are compared to the older KI?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-10 14:14:05
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The new system should be at least 10x better

You would've had to screen shot shantotto II before the update to have any measure of trust stats before and after though
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By Shichishito 2026-03-10 14:26:37
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Not sure where the CHR hate comes from. Some might claim that trusts can't get charmed but mine actively work against me pretty much all of the time.
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By Garzyan 2026-03-10 14:29:10
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someone mentioned you also get points from way over the capacity roe. ive allrdy done that one. how do i get those extra points then ?

never mind figured it out. talked to majory in rulude garden to gain the thesis
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-03-10 14:57:19
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denied said: »
Since they took away the "Filled Memory Gem" KI which gave stat bonuses to all trusts... How do these Alter ego points compare to that old KI? I capped out HP but doesn't seem like much changed? Can anyone confirm how much better the points are compared to the older KI?
That gave +X levels to your trusts. The more trusts the less bonus, the less trusts the higher bonus.
At the very least it was making them 121, which meant... 2 more levels? 25hp per level, +5 stats per level?
I don't know, just throwing a wild guess.

So probably comparing it with this system it would have been with like no more than 5 upgrades to HP and MP and 10 upgrades to base stats, or something like that?
I'm already at capped HP (+250?) and +40ish to VIT, MND and INT.


Also keep in mind that these current caps will eventually be raised in the future.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-03-10 15:15:05
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
If you wait 6 months or a year etc you can instacap fastcast or haste or DT or WSD or meva or whatever they eventually figure out trusts actually need.
(subtle blow, please, a full 100%)

But there is a cap so you gotta spend

IMO this is actually the play. I'll probably do HP, INT, MND, AGI, and then hold points until I'm pushing a thousand.