Which JSE +2 Necks Are Worth It?

Also keep in mind nobody is gonna kick a GEO out based on a +1/+2 neck because then it means gotta find someone else to play with bubbles. Same as nobody will kick a WHM over a +1 or +2 neck because then it means someone else has to heal instead of Naegling-ing something in the taint, so they'll shut their mouth.

Valid point, but if you're considering the meta then at least half of the necks are worthless because nobody will invite you on that job anyway.

You did



Unless you had no clue you could cap RP by doing dynaD with the Charm equipped without giving a single heroism to Oboro, which explains why I was questioning your decision making before.

Correction, you brought swarts in the convo "to R15 it". As well as even afterglowing it with the beits.


I merely said the +2 neck had slightly more value over the +1 in the instance of NOT owning an Idris, and going +1 neck and putting the remaining 46mil from not buying the +2 neck into making Idris being more cost effective in my opinion.


Also how do you figure this? I specifically said I wasn't calculating in the heroisms and instead to not be lazy and go do dyna RP, because there were other posts commenting on the cost of Augs either through heroism or buying RP runs on asura.


My comment was directed at your post comparing the cost of R15 idris vs base +2 neck cost. YOU said spending 50mil in beits and 48mil in swarts. Which you also conveniently left out the part about the beits I said.

My comment was about if youre going to full buy all the beits/swarts/hpbaylds without spending any effort in dyna/omen/ambu then why do you think someone is going to not full buy the heroisms out of not wanting to spend time in dyna?

Again, if you have a billion gil then this whole thread means nothing to you as you could just buy every +2 and not care. I took this thread pointing to the person whos weighing the pros/cons of getting a +2 or being satisfied with a +1 for w/e given job and merely replied to someone who made a blanket statement which I thought was invalid. I feel this is being drug into the previous time vs cost argument that I read vaguely and wasn't replying to, I've said my piece to any prospective geos.

All this talk from poors reminded me I have over 300 mil abandoned on Asura :(

I will gladly accept 40m from you then!
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stop being a poor, bruh

Finally able to actually sit down and reply properly and I see this thing... You hit me with the "No Such Thing As a Free Lunch"??? Really? lol. Clearly trolling, not responding any further to that.

You're right but some players struggle to make larger amounts of gil in short amounts of time. 40m to some of us is next to nothing but is potentially a month or more of grinding for some players so they're going to look at this with greater consideration. Add also that a lot of players DO NOT have the time to "Get Motivated" for this game enough to farm gil beyond whatever they can get from Ambuscade and Odyssey lol.


A little something called Economics? Or Arithmetic maybe? Before I begin, I'll remind everyone of the OP:


The OP appears to want to know which Necks are mandatory to +2 and which ones are just "Nice to have". Appears to want to perform well or adequately but has no intentions of overthrowing any Career Job players? Am I correct in that assumption?

With that premise outlined, let's delve deeper!
A Fully Maxed Out JSE+1 Neck has 80% of the Fully Maxed out JSE+2 Neck's power on average while only spending 25% of the Maximum total cost of a +2 Assuming it's acquired instantly because "Opportunity Cost". That's just good math lol. For the OP's considerations, fewer JSE Necks will become mandatory to +2 for Routine Roll Filling/Casual Play because the differences in a lot of these is very small. You'll still have the key piece but the impact won't be exactly as big as the Career guy but at the end of the day you still won the fight so who cares? So for anyone who doesn't have tons of gil to spend like You or Me, the +1 option looks much more appealing.

Nynja, I believe you might be conflating the presence of a JSE Neck +1 to having one's entire Gearset at lesser quality when in today's meta, that's fairly silly to do? Most job metas presently run off of R/Ex Equipment that must be earned through play instead of purchased. Yes, I goofed on the Abjuration -1 stuff but what jobs are using that right now in any content that matters??? Every job is using some combination of Empyrean Armor +2/3 with some AF, Relic and some Gaol gear in either TP, WS or Nuking so if you or anyone else's DPS is foiled by the choice of a +1 or +2 Neck, you have very seriously *** up. I hate to break it to you but if THIS is what you're losing sleep over, you might be playing the wrong game.


This is probably the cleanest answer to this whole thing; Unnecessary Jabs aside.

Ohhh that's just adorable :) Some of us have been trying to actually give the OP a real answer here but just to humor your little quip, I have multiple mules with capped gil and most of my JSE Necks are +2 and I STILL would not recommend putting out extra money for something you don't intend to use very often or don't care much about.

As I said before, it's only a neck piece and if the rest of the gearset is solid, it probably won't matter much. Unless it's burning a hole in your pocket, there are more efficient uses for your money. Simonses and Maletaru offered some compelling arguments for JSE Necks that are worthwhile to +2 if able so take that under consideration.

I'll leave it alone there, you all have a wonderful weekend.

Sir, we need to talk about that most. If you have 3b gil, what on earth are you waiting for to upgrade those +1 necks to +2? I get that I'm a neck salesman so take it with a grain of salt but um...all the +2 necks are better than the +1 necks, you clearly have no use for that gil...why would that most not be an all?

I read that in the volcano insurance salesman's voice

Why the hell would I +2 a WHM Neck??? I only need the Erase + on the thing O_o;
Edit Hopefully before someone jumps on it:
I almost NEVER play WHM so I really only needed the Erase boost lol

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Too late, asked and answered.

lol damn you, Male haha.
My WHM cure set is very similar to that but Ebers +2, Queller's Rod, Cleric's +1 and I have different Rings and a different Earring. Cure Pot is capped, Cure Pot II is high without the extra MP Expense (Some Care, Some don't, I prefer not to worry about it)

I've been performing pretty good on WHM so far for the times I use it but it's a job that puts me to sleep so I don't want to push money into it if I don't intend to use it to the fullest?

You should see what AI says about NA players lol

Theres a difference between a poor and wasting money for no reason.

Poor's have no money.

lol found the poor


inb4: "theyre not all capped, broke *** poor"

You're claiming to have, at absolute mininum, 2 billion gil, and you're sweating 50 million gil for a +2 jse neck? CMOOOOOOOOON LOL

Its 2025. Gil has been irrelevant in FFXI for the last half decade. Odyssey? No need to burn gil*. Sortie? no need to burn gil. How the *** are FFXI players in-game-broke?

~2 mil from weekly allowance
52 weeks
5 years
= 520 million gil

*This doesnt include the 500k+++ a day of straight up gil you can make in Sheol. 500k+++ for 30 minutes on one char is *** bonkers gil/hr ratio. Omen with THF main was ~11 swarts per run, and thats 888k/run, and requires holding for a stack to sell on the AH.

Why is this thread a thing?? HOW ARE PEOPLE THAT *** BROKE??!?!?

Not everyone has been playing for 5 years getting gil every week, tbh.

Is it bragging time tho?

Breaks the theme!

I dont even use mine tbh. Its just there, collecting dust, among my e-trophies.

If you're an idris geo and that club don't glow green, you my friend are a gimp.

"But it's not woooorth it", the poor gimp says.

How exactly am I trolling by asking you how much time it takes you to farm ambu.

Still waiting for an answer. You sound like a politician whenever someone brings up pot laws.

Lol weed. Lol farming ambu? Nah I just pay mercs for that bro, what a silly question.

See? Nynja you can give money to me in a week!
If 40m is too much I will be overly happy even with just 20m man!

I just lost 40m a few days ago because I'm a *** stupid ***, so anything that helps me compensate for that loss would be more than welcome.

ktnxbai <3