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By Dildonunchucks 2025-06-12 10:47:52
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Nice the ??? is still at E2 by the gigas in temenos
Good job
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-12 10:48:22
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Asura.Saevel said: »
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I am spamming horde lullaby and not sure what's keeping things from sleeping, could this be related to the initial pull debuffs issue?

You are using a light based sleep against light based monsters?

I should have included this was against beastman
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By Asura.Wotasu 2025-06-12 10:54:09
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Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
I am spamming horde lullaby and not sure what's keeping things from sleeping, could this be related to the initial pull debuffs issue?

You are using a light based sleep against light based monsters?

I should have included this was against beastman
From what I can recall I've had no issues lullabying anything but Pixies and some light based Ghrahs. Pixies takes immunobreaks to land Sleep.
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By Bahamut.Raineer 2025-06-12 11:33:29
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In Apollyon I think everything can be lullabied. Only exception I can remember is Adamantoises. Haven't done Temenos yet.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-12 11:53:37
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Adamantoises were resisting both light based and dark based sleeps (Sheep Song and Dream Flower).
At 119 so I doubt it was a macc check issue.

Only thing I found resisting my sleeps in Apo.
Some mobs resisting Dark based (Dream flower) of course, but didn't find anything else resisting both.
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By Bahamut.Anillo 2025-06-12 12:47:13
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Manque said: »
Apollyon ??? on Baha is up @ SE #3 as of right now. Unsure on reset timing (JP midnight in 45 mins).

Still there as of now
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-06-12 14:06:34
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Can we make it a culture thing to do a /u or /yell anytime someone finishes having found the ???.

So everyone can get free points?
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By Fenrir.Velner 2025-06-12 14:11:24
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Not sure of the reset timer for the ??? but I found it around 12 pm Pacific yesterday in Apollyon NW #5 and it was still there until that zone maintenance that took place about 9 hours later. We found it again after but I was still unable to get the bonus again, unfortunately.

Edit: It's also still in the same spot it was last night about 12 hours later so it persisted after JP midnight.

Edit 2: I still can't get the bonus again.
By RRoces 2025-06-12 14:21:07
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Asura ??? Apollyon NW 2 near Teleport 12/06
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 14:48:26
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RRoces said: »
Asura ??? Apollyon NW 2 near Teleport 12/06

Hmm is there a limit or cooldown on collecting these?
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By Bahamut.Raineer 2025-06-12 14:49:12
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Asura.Saevel said: »
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Asura ??? Apollyon NW 2 near Teleport 12/06

Hmm is there a limit or cooldown on collecting these?
Going theory is that it's once per week per character. I'd definitely like to hear if anyone has collected any ??? twice.

You'd think Apollyon and Temenos would be separate. Only a couple people have reported finding one in Temenos - so it'd be good to confirm if those characters received anything from Apollyon ???
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-12 14:59:44
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I wouldnt be surprised if the one in temenos was broken
OR it pops up randomly when one specific mob dies.


Considering the temenos layout compared to apollyon, that would explain why there are less reports of it in Temenos. Temenos has one direct route between portals with mobs in separate groups, whereas in Apollyon you can fan out between portals and the mobs are all over the place.

There were also people who went in both zones and did some packet tomfoolery and deduced the ??? wasnt up in either zone after maint.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-06-12 15:08:34
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I collected from both today and received units both times. If you zone in/out they remain in the same spot, it just says "There is nothing out of the ordinary here" when you click on it. I did not get them yesterday (or try even)

I'll try again tomorrow if I have the location
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 15:19:01
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Do we know what the graces do? I have Angelic Grace so far.
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By Bahamut.Raineer 2025-06-12 15:30:00
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Do we know what the graces do? I have Angelic Grace so far.
It's a permanent buff like vorseals. It says the buffs gained from either zone will apply to both.

They are documented in the original SE post:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62862-June-10-2025-%28JST%29-Version-Update?p=667175&viewfull=1#post667175

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By Dodik 2025-06-12 15:35:01
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Unlike vorseals, number of chests opened is counted server wide, not just your own.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-12 15:41:30
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RRoces said: »
Asura ??? Apollyon NW 2 near Teleport 12/06
Confirmed, still there.
Got mine after I got the Apollyon one.

So if it's once per week, it's (rightfully) separated for each zone.
By RRoces 2025-06-12 15:42:35
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Asura.Saevel said: »
RRoces said: »
Asura ??? Apollyon NW 2 near Teleport 12/06

Hmm is there a limit or cooldown on collecting these?
I think it is 1 per week
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By K123 2025-06-12 15:47:45
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Probably doesn't work but has anyone tried seeing if Tomahawk removes the 50% DT?
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 15:51:02
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Bahamut.Raineer said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Do we know what the graces do? I have Angelic Grace so far.
It's a permanent buff like vorseals. It says the buffs gained from either zone will apply to both.

They are documented in the original SE post:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62862-June-10-2025-%28JST%29-Version-Update?p=667175&viewfull=1#post667175


Umm we know that. I'm talking about if we know the values and such.


Dodik said: »
Unlike vorseals, number of chests opened is counted server wide, not just your own.

Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week.
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By RadialArcana 2025-06-12 15:53:01
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By Taint 2025-06-12 15:58:23
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K123 said: »
Probably doesn't work but has anyone tried seeing if Tomahawk removes the 50% DT?


Seems to remove half 25%.

Definitely works. Perma WAR spots incoming for NMs.
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By Bahamut.Raineer 2025-06-12 16:02:04
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week.
Umm we know that because it's also in the SE post
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-12 16:13:01
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week.
Dunno about that.
Seems to me for the time being people aren't particularly interested in Limbus.
Which on one hand is good because the zone is not overly laggy (it would be, given the Asura total population!), on the other hand it's proven a bit tricky to set up PUGs, people just don't caught up with this content for now.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 16:21:32
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Bahamut.Raineer said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week.
Umm we know that because it's also in the SE post

Shoo, go away.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-12 16:24:15
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Asura.Sechs said: »
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Ok so we know it goes up with server total chests opened? With Asura being .. Asura lol, should cap out in like one week.
Dunno about that.
Seems to me for the time being people aren't particularly interested in Limbus.
Which on one hand is good because the zone is not overly laggy (it would be, given the Asura total population!), on the other hand it's proven a bit tricky to set up PUGs, people just don't caught up with this content for now.

IDK I've seen a ton of people doing it right now. It's just not very mercable, or they haven't figured out how to exploit it yet, so all those bot armies your used to seeing aren't around. If you go into either zones it's full of soloists or small groups doing tower runs.

No punishment or daily restriction means on FOMO or need to do it at exact times, so people being mega casual about it. Similar to abyssea vibe from back in the day.
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By Dodik 2025-06-12 16:51:28
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In the SE post:

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The support effects grow more effective based on how many treasure chests you open. The number of times the treasure chests have been opened are recorded for each World, so all of the adventurers within each World can receive the same support effects.

No mention of caps.
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By Odin.Naytan 2025-06-12 17:03:29
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Bahamut.Raineer said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Do we know what the graces do? I have Angelic Grace so far.
It's a permanent buff like vorseals. It says the buffs gained from either zone will apply to both.

They are documented in the original SE post:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62862-June-10-2025-%28JST%29-Version-Update?p=667175&viewfull=1#post667175


Umm we know that. I'm talking about if we know the values and such.
Talk to Operator and ask about Grace
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By klayy 2025-06-12 17:26:25
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Not gonna add anything new probly. but my guess is there is only 1 ??? per zone (apolly/tem) at a time. They seem to stay put for maybe 24 hours or so. Once you have collected it, that's it. If it moves, that's still it. My assumption is it's a once a week thing. It's not daily, I already checked. And even the maint didn't reset it.

Last I saw on Asura, the acc/racc grace was up to +12 the stat boost was +6 and the HP/EXP loss was +300 HP and -12% reduced exp loss.

Temenos seems way less solo friendly than apolly. Small area, mobs that link or true aggro in many places. It can be tough to kill faster than they pop if you pull and link 4-5. Apolly much larger, can skirt the edges... easily avoid the nastier ones -- shadow dragons, adamantoises.

Only things I've foudn that BRD cant sleep is pixies, adamantoises, and light-based ghrahs. So yeah some floors more annoying that others. If you get your kills at the start then there's a bunch of ghrahs at the exit, you may not have much choice but to kill them over again.

Would say time needed to clear has been cut in half with the maint. If it took 2 hrs to full clear a zone prior, it will take 1 hr now.
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By Siren.Athen 2025-06-12 18:35:32
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On Siren, the Apollyon ??? is at SE 1F, NW of the teleporter.

Edit: I checked the Gigas room in Temenos E 2F for the ???, but no luck. It'd be nice if they were in the same spots across servers :D
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