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			By K123 2025-09-14 13:18:48			
			
						
                     
                 
                Chest was blue on Asura. Killed a GEO NM and was really easy, not doing a lot of dmg and took damage fine (20k SB on RDM and BRD).                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By K123 2025-09-14 13:20:36			
			
						
                     
                 
                Can't see the earring having 30macc 
JSE earrings already have that level of acc/macc on some jobs if they have skill on there so it's not that far out of the realm of possibility More the reason why I would be surprised. It would be a lot in two slots. Maybe it has to be this though given 1/30 shows +1. Maybe macc+30 int mnd +15.                                      
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By K123 2025-09-14 13:44:19			
			
						
                     
                 
                I see I am a bit late posting some of this data, but I started getting some points point values for floors 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rtiUWvA_mGgyZRwtHvb_2dr9J7tXdkTCeatIlwZte70/edit?usp=sharing
Formulas for points on the floors 
* If you obtain an floor clear temp item, double the value that you get out of the formulas below. 
--Conditions to get a floor clear temp item-- 
Have greater than 0 chest remaining for the week to open. 
Do not already posses that floor clear temp item.
 
Temenos  
N/E/W  = 30+((ilvl-119)*5) 
Central  = 60+((ilvl-119)*10)
 
Apollyon 
N  = 42+((ilvl-119)*7) 
S  = 54+((ilvl-119)*9)
 
At ilvl 138 for both zones you will be able to cap weekly points just from climbing and opening chest. 
 
*Still need some testing around kills need per floor, and the growth of the kills needed.
 
Temenos  
N/E/W  starts at 3   
Central Starts at 5 
Apollyon  
N starts at 4 
S starts at 5 How many mobs for 7-8 people vs 6? +1 mob per objective?                                      
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Meeble 2025-09-14 14:40:55			
			
						
                     
                 
                Can confirm it is one matter per augment rank,and NextRP is the quantity of units your  next matter trade will require.
                                              
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-14 14:50:34			
			
						
                     
                 
                That's a hefty grind per 1 acc/racc/macc  
Obviously +10 is easy enough, but 20-30 ugh
 
500k units and 30 50/50 items                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By sorge74 2025-09-14 14:52:34			
			
						
                     
                 
                That's a hefty grind per 1 acc/racc/macc  
 
Obviously +10 is easy enough, but 20-30 ugh 
 
500k units and 30 50/50 items  
Wonder if first item per week is 100%                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By Chimerawizard 2025-09-14 14:58:05			
			
						
                     
                 
                That's a hefty grind per 1 acc/racc/macc  
 
Obviously +10 is easy enough, but 20-30 ugh 
 
500k units and 30 50/50 items  
Wonder if first item per week is 100% The player's chances of acquiring matter are based on the number of victories over notorious monsters that were earned in the player's World. 
 
[Unlocking the content for the first time] 
 
    Characters that have never acquired Alabaster Matter or Murky Matter are guaranteed to acquire them the first time they unlock the content*. 
 
        * This only applies once per character and is not affected by the treasure chest reset when the conquest results are tabulated. 
                                       
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By sorge74 2025-09-14 15:00:31			
			
						
                     
                 
                That's a hefty grind per 1 acc/racc/macc  
 
Obviously +10 is easy enough, but 20-30 ugh 
 
500k units and 30 50/50 items  
Wonder if first item per week is 100% The player's chances of acquiring matter are based on the number of victories over notorious monsters that were earned in the player's World. 
 
[Unlocking the content for the first time] 
 
Well damn 
 
    Characters that have never acquired Alabaster Matter or Murky Matter are guaranteed to acquire them the first time they unlock the content*. 
 
        * This only applies once per character and is not affected by the treasure chest reset when the conquest results are tabulated. 
                                       
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By K123 2025-09-14 15:04:33			
			
						
                     
                 
                Even at +10/15 they are nice though                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Finan 2025-09-14 15:23:00			
			
						
                     
                 
                i asked AI to apply the same formula from how odyssey RP increases to the new numbers from limbus obviously this could be inaccurate but gives a rough estimate of how many units we are needing to accumulate 
 
RP(n) = -350·n² + 2650·n - 2300 
 
This gives the RP required to go from rank n–1 to rank n. I've also included the cumulative RP needed to reach each rank from R1. 
 
? Limbus Accessory RP Upgrade Chart (R1 → R30) 
Rank    RP to Next Rank    Cumulative RP 
R1 → R2    1600    1600 
R2 → R3    2500    4100 
R3 → R4    3400    7500 
R4 → R5    4300    11,800 
R5 → R6    5200    17,000 
R6 → R7    6100    23,100 
R7 → R8    7000    30,100 
R8 → R9    7900    38,000 
R9 → R10    8800    46,800 
R10 → R11    9700    56,500 
R11 → R12    10,600    67,100 
R12 → R13    11,500    78,600 
R13 → R14    12,400    91,000 
R14 → R15    13,300    104,300 
R15 → R16    14,200    118,500 
R16 → R17    15,100    133,600 
R17 → R18    16,000    149,600 
R18 → R19    16,900    166,500 
R19 → R20    17,800    184,300 
R20 → R21    18,700    203,000 
R21 → R22    19,600    222,600 
R22 → R23    20,500    243,100 
R23 → R24    21,400    264,500 
R24 → R25    22,300    286,800 
R25 → R26    23,200    310,000 
R26 → R27    24,100    334,100 
R27 → R28    25,000    359,100 
R28 → R29    25,900    385,000 
R29 → R30    26,800    411,800                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Lakshmi.Byrth 2025-09-14 15:52:47			
			
						
                     
                 
                If you have a system that will answer any question, it becomes very important to know what question to ask.                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By K123 2025-09-14 15:55:28			
			
						
                     
                 
                If you have a system that will answer any question, it becomes very important to know what question to ask. It is just giving +900 each time, why is that expressed as RP(n) = -350·n² + 2650·n - 2300? 
 
We can assume this is the bare minum scaling, but don't they usually scale more aggressively?                                      
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-14 15:57:41			
			
						
                     
                 
                Yes, the AI assumed it would stay constant, it will most likely in fact not                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Finan 2025-09-14 15:58:42			
			
						
                     
                 
                ya just noticed that AI sucks sometimes heres a better set of numbers but it looks dismal i can gurantee you this is incorrect but its more of a guess who knows its going to take roughly 3 months before someone hits R30 at the absolute best you get matter every single chest its 6 weeks 
 
 
R1→R2	1600	1600 
R2→R3	2500	4100 
R3→R4	3600	7700 
R4→R5	4900	12,600 
R5→R6	6400	19,000 
R6→R7	8100	27,100 
R7→R8	10,000	37,100 
R8→R9	12,100	49,200 
R9→R10	14,400	63,600 
R10→R11	16,900	80,500 
R11→R12	19,600	100,100 
R12→R13	22,500	122,600 
R13→R14	25,600	148,200 
R14→R15	28,900	177,100 
R15→R16	32,400	209,500 
R16→R17	36,100	245,600 
R17→R18	40,000	285,600 
R18→R19	44,100	329,700 
R19→R20	48,400	378,100 
R20→R21	52,900	431,000 
R21→R22	57,600	488,600 
R22→R23	62,500	551,100 
R23→R24	67,600	618,700 
R24→R25	72,900	691,600 
R25→R26	78,400	770,000 
R26→R27	84,100	854,100 
R27→R28	90,000	944,100 
R28→R29	96,100	1,040,200 
R29→R30	102,400	1,142,600                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Dodik 2025-09-14 15:58:44			
			
						
                     
                 
                
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-14 16:02:24			
			
						
                     
                 
                
Please look forward to it.                                      
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Lili 2025-09-14 16:05:22			
			
						
                     
                 
                Dude if you know these make no sense and are most likely disconnected from reality, why post them? ChatGPT has no way to infer the formula (it can't do actual math) and we've never seen these RP values. You're just posting for the sake of posting, please don't. 
In more useful news, if anyone has any of the items with augments unlocked and wants to come to the Windower discord, we can get the augments mined really fast with your help.                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Asura.Saevel 2025-09-14 16:13:59			
			
						
                     
                 
                Dude if you know these make no sense and are most likely disconnected from reality, why post them? ChatGPT has no way to infer the formula (it can't do actual math) and we've never seen these RP values. You're just posting for the sake of posting, please don't. 
 
In more useful news, if anyone has any of the items with augments unlocked and wants to come to the Windower discord, we can get the augments mined really fast with your help. 
I asked AI for the winning powerball numbers, we can all be rich.                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By K123 2025-09-14 16:21:34			
			
						
                     
                 
                The fact it cockblocks you from making armor if you want to RP is painful. I suppose most people only make 5-10 +4s but if they add +5s and they use points it will be bs.                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-09-14 16:40:35			
			
						
                     
                 
                I asked grok if this was true and it told me to buy a tesla                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-14 16:48:14			
			
						
                     
                 
                The fact it cockblocks you from making armor if you want to RP is painful. I suppose most people only make 5-10 +4s but if they add +5s and they use points it will be bs. 
You ain't missing anything from +4 it's a nonissue.
 
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			By Asura.Sechs 2025-09-14 17:04:33			
			
						
                     
                 
                The fact it cockblocks you from making armor if you want to RP is painful. I suppose most people only make 5-10 +4s but if they add +5s and they use points it will be bs. Sounds like they didn't learn their lesson the first time around with Sortie, right?                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-09-14 17:07:32			
			
						
                     
                 
                Well as long as we figure all this stuff out before next week when we have to figure out how to get the refresh shield                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By K123 2025-09-14 17:09:30			
			
						
                     
                 
                The fact it cockblocks you from making armor if you want to RP is painful. I suppose most people only make 5-10 +4s but if they add +5s and they use points it will be bs. Sounds like they didn't learn their lesson the first time around with Sortie, right? All intentional sadism and FOMO inducing                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By Nariont 2025-09-14 17:20:00			
			
						
                     
                 
                Sounds like they didn't learn their lesson the first time around with Sortie, right? 
What lesson? That it extends the limited content available to the player so the event itself lasts longer while they add more/work on the next thing?                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
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			By Meeble 2025-09-14 17:32:20			
			
						
                     
                 
                The fact it cockblocks you from making armor if you want to RP is painful. I suppose most people only make 5-10 +4s but if they add +5s and they use points it will be bs. Sounds like they didn't learn their lesson the first time around with Sortie, right? 
I bet I have all the Limbus accessories finished before I get a Sortie +2 earring for a job I actually care about.                                             
                                     
                
             
                            
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-09-14 19:05:02			
			
						
                     
                 
                 
I bet I have all the Limbus accessories finished before I get a Sortie +2 earring for a job I actually care about.
 
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			By Bismarck.Johnb 2025-09-14 22:25:16			
			
						
                     
                 
                i asked AI to apply the same formula from how odyssey RP increases to the new numbers from limbus obviously this could be inaccurate but gives a rough estimate of how many units we are needing to accumulate 
 
RP(n) = -350·n² + 2650·n - 2300 
 
This gives the RP required to go from rank n–1 to rank n. I've also included the cumulative RP needed to reach each rank from R1. 
 
? Limbus Accessory RP Upgrade Chart (R1 → R30) 
Rank    RP to Next Rank    Cumulative RP 
R1 → R2    1600    1600 
R2 → R3    2500    4100 
R3 → R4    3400    7500 
R4 → R5    4300    11,800 
R5 → R6    5200    17,000 
R6 → R7    6100    23,100 
R7 → R8    7000    30,100 
R8 → R9    7900    38,000 
R9 → R10    8800    46,800 
R10 → R11    9700    56,500 
R11 → R12    10,600    67,100 
R12 → R13    11,500    78,600 
R13 → R14    12,400    91,000 
R14 → R15    13,300    104,300 
R15 → R16    14,200    118,500 
R16 → R17    15,100    133,600 
R17 → R18    16,000    149,600 
R18 → R19    16,900    166,500 
R19 → R20    17,800    184,300 
R20 → R21    18,700    203,000 
R21 → R22    19,600    222,600 
R22 → R23    20,500    243,100 
R23 → R24    21,400    264,500 
R24 → R25    22,300    286,800 
R25 → R26    23,200    310,000 
R26 → R27    24,100    334,100 
R27 → R28    25,000    359,100 
R28 → R29    25,900    385,000 
R29 → R30    26,800    411,800 
this formula doesn't make sense since you get negative numbers later?                                      
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
            
                
			
			By Finan 2025-09-14 22:46:25			
			
						
                     
                 
                that was just bs math man its not what the actual numbers are. Was just me speculating and typing ***in AI. More then likely based on the numbers though its going take like 8 weeks to 6 months to R30 an accessory (again this is just me guessing based on how SE likes to make us grind until eternity) but more data is needed and I've been at work all day and haven't been able to dig deeper                                     
                
             
                        
         
        
        
        
            
                
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			By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-09-15 09:14:44			
			
						
                     
                 
                There's gotta be some advantages aside from banish in NW that can be taken advantage of 
 
If we can crowd source some data someone can edit the data into a copy of sheol helper 
 
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        I didn't see a thread dedicated to new-new Limbus so here's one with some findings. I’ve continued to edit this post with new discoveries made throughout the thread. 
For entrance and zone info, really the SE post is best:
 https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/62862-June-10-2025-%28JST%29-Version-Update?p=667175&viewfull=1#post667175
Obtaining the Key Items / Units
Kill mobs to fill the bar in the upper left. Seems to take 6-15+ mobs per floor, this increases based on the chosen mob level and number of people in your party. You continue to get units as long as you want to sit there and keep killing and refill the bar, but at half the rate. Whether this is comparable to the units gained by continuing to move floors and finishing the event to get the chest bonus is up a function of your personal kill speed and group size.
 
Each Temporary KI looks like "Apollyon SE #1 data", and you get 1 per floor. You keep them until you open a chest and then they are all lost. You get a KI for filling up the bar at the top of the screen on each floor. I didn't count but I think it requires like 10 mobs per floor (this apparently varies by level choice). Once you get a KI, you should get to keep it even if you leave Limbus. You would lose any progress on any un-completed floors, but this is like 6-10 kills so no biggie.
 
You can enter any section / floor at any time. You don't need to go in any type of order or "climb" if you're missing one of the upper KIs from a run that got interrupted. 
 
Once you choose a level (119-130), I think you need to keep that level choice until you open a chest. If you adjust it after getting some KIs, you might lose them. The NPC dialogue isn't too clear on this.
 
There were no direct drops from mobs, of any kind. 
 Mob Details
All the mobs seem to have pretty serious DT, probably 50% (confirm by Brixy as 50%, per Air Knife expected enspell dmg). But they aren't hard. They hit like 130s. AoE/Cleaving is extremely nerfed.
 Pulling mobs is weird. Any initial spell cast before initial aggro / dynamic level adjustment may land, but will not remain on the mob. You will not see a message to reflect this.
 
If you pull with silence (while it's un-aggroed), it appears the silence instantly wears without any message, likely due to the dynamic-level adjustment which happens as soon as you aggro (credit to Moonlightagb for this theory, I think it's correct). Silencing twice is probably needed. This doesn't matter much in a party, but if you're solo and mob density is high this effect could be pretty annoying. Other examples later verified by others: If you pull with Immanence, the skill chain will not complete. If you pull with Dia, you can sleep right after. 
 
Mob respawn is on the order of a few minutes but I was pretty lonely this morning. I had one floor with a couple groups and it felt faster, might be dynamic spawn rate.
 
Aside from the initial-aggro weirdness, everything can be debuffed and slept as expected. Sneak/invis work fine, but true aggro mobs remain like Imps and such.
 Getting the goods
In order for the chest to open,  you need to finish all of the zone, not just one section. So Apollyon zone is 18 KIs, Temenos zone should be 25 KIs. If the chest says "it won't open", you need more KIs. The chests are located at the exit of each "top floor" in each section. However, you can only open a chest once you have finished all the sections (NW,NE,SW,SE,etc).
 
After getting all KIs in Apollyon, each character had earned:
 
About 4000 units from killing mobs and climbing floors 
 
3000 units from finding a shiny ??? on the ground and clicking it 
 
3000 units (one character in the party got 5000 units, no idea why) directly from the chest 
 
 
So each character of a 6-person party left a ~90 minute run with 10-12k units. EP was ~15k/hr, but this is ML50s fighting level 130s. Maybe it's better if you're lower.
 
My initial limit on Apollyon units was 30,000. After I opened the chest, that increased to 33,000. It looks to increase 3000 more with each chest open.
 
Apollyon Units are used to upgrade AF pieces to +4. 
Temenos Units are used to upgrade relic pieces to +4. 
 
The upgrade costs are:
 
Head: 20k units 
 
Body: 30k units 
 
Hands: 15k units 
 
Legs: 25k units 
 
Feet: 10k units 
 
 
Once I got to 10k units, the furnace did allow me to trade a foot piece, though I didn't choose to complete the process. Trading any other slot did nothing.
 
I did get the title Apollyon Razer, which I think is just the same as the old title lol  
        
     
    
 
    
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