Limbus 2025
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Limbus 2025
yeah I too got some 5k's early on but then never again.
Wonder if it was an early glitch? Has anyone got 5k recently?
My last go around I got 3k x3. Before that only my bard was getting 5k but only twice. /shrug
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Couple of thoughts:
1. Why not just put a Home Point inside Temenos and both Apollyon zones (still don't really understand why there really needed to be 2?). 2. Why not have a nomad moogle in each of the lobbies? So you can switch up jobs if needed - the whole selling point of FFXI was always that you're able to change jobs. I suppose HP+moogle would be a bad way to do it because people would leave it as their main HP a lot and it would get annoying, but either HP or moogle would make it nicer.
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Moogle would be really nice and would let people make groups in the zone.
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K123 said: » both Apollyon zones (still don't really understand why there really needed to be 2?). It's just how the original Limbus was made; Apollyon was split into two zones. I guess during the rework, they didn't want to have one zone lead to nowhere or useless, so they just repurposed both lobbies to go to the same zone (but different areas). Less work than removing a second Swirling Vortex. I suppose they could have made both Apollyon Swirling Vortexes lead to the same lobby, but since the content isn't finished, they may have plans for each zone entrance to do something different, similar to vanilla limbus. Will have to wait and see. I would have made them go to the same lobby.
They should have just made the same lobby when they rebuilt it and let the exit take you back to the area you zoned in from. The code for such a thing already exists: Chocobo Races area can enter an exit from any nation, but it will only send you back to the nation you came from.
Random info time: Found itg in temenos, died(I was testing stuff wasn't planning on nm), came back still checked itg, killed, didn't see a ???. Killed outside of the teleporter room
Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130?
Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? I've just been soloing it at 119, it takes 5 kills per floor.
I can reliably land light shot so even if I link 3~4 mobs I can sleep a couple and churn through em. I use Arciela+Joachim+Sylvie atm, they can keep me alive and buffed so I down mobs pretty fast. Just use standard chaos+Sam rolls and go ham. Only tricky bit is a couple temenos floors knowing to aggro the grahs and run by em to get to a safe spot to turn around, sleep 2, and then fight. I think it's literally the last floor that's trickiest with grahs in the "middle" of the run, so you don't have a particularly safe spot to stand. There's gobbos nearby that can aggro and if that happens you'll link em all. I can usually do a full tower in about 1hr, so a full run takes me about 3.5hrs I think? Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130? Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? Take a look at this. Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » Temenos has 21 floors at 170 per floor, 4 floors at 340 per floor on 130 = 4,930 units + 3000 for the chest. At 119 that changes to (21*60) + (230*4) = 2,180 + 3000 7,930 vs 5,180 Apollyon has 10 floors at 238 per floor, 8 floors at 306 per floor on 130 = 4,828 unit + 3000 for the chest. At 119 that changes to (10*128) + (8*196) = 2,848 + 3000 7,828 vs 5,848 You can decide whether those extra points are worth the difference in your kill speed. For Temenos if you're doing 119, going to 130 will increase your units by ~53%. For Apollyon the difference is ~34%. Both numbers include a 3k chest. soralin said: » I've just been soloing it at 119, it takes 5 kills per floor. Number of kills per floor is not affected by ilvl, so IDK why you said this. Kills per floor is only changed by the size of your party/alliance.
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Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130? Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? I only do these solo on 119, and hunt the ??? when someone reports a location. I can finish an Apollyon run so much faster at 119 and I don't even care about the extra units per floor due to how long it takes. If there's a party, i'll do it at 130 obviously. That's my preference.
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K123 said: » Couple of thoughts: 1. Why not just put a Home Point inside Temenos and both Apollyon zones (still don't really understand why there really needed to be 2?). 2. Why not have a nomad moogle in each of the lobbies? So you can switch up jobs if needed - the whole selling point of FFXI was always that you're able to change jobs. I suppose HP+moogle would be a bad way to do it because people would leave it as their main HP a lot and it would get annoying, but either HP or moogle would make it nicer. I doesn't make for a great "home" without an AH, delivery services, or other transportation options nearby. More generally I don't understand the point of adding tons of QoL teleportation stuff but still insist on throwing movement friction. Limbus 2025 is a good example with the home point outside the zone and no moogle inside, but so many other things have unnecessary friction:
None of these things are insurmountable, far from it, but it's gratuitous annoyance that doesn't need to be there. Odyssey has plenty of flaws but it's at least somewhat convenient to swing by and do it. Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130? Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? It saved me 5 minutes max. Might be different if solo though. Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130? Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? There is zero value in *not* doing 130. The points per group are higher, CP/EP is much higher, and the mobs die just as fast. It's a long climb anyway, might as well get as much out of it as you can. I hope they raise the max level soon. Elad said: » get told you need to wait 3 more hours for a canteen. Omen KI is searchable. Who does Omen every day in 2025 and has no KI on them. Elad said: » I doesn't make for a great "home" without an AH, delivery services, or other transportation options nearby Dodik said: » Omen KI is searchable. Who does Omen every day in 2025 and has no KI on them. <-- this noob apparently! searching for the KI will definitely save me time, thanks for the tip! My original point still stands, there's unnecessary friction applied unevenly across the game. The best QoL that FFXI can ever undertake would be to remove all these timegates; gameday waiting, 20 hrs KI waits, 60 hr KI waits, and 3-person minimums. One can dream I guess...
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Dodik said: » Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Is there any merit for me to continue doing this at 130? Or should I just save some time and do 119? The 3-5k chest is the real value? There is zero value in *not* doing 130. The points per group are higher, CP/EP is much higher, and the mobs die just as fast. It's a long climb anyway, might as well get as much out of it as you can. I hope they raise the max level soon. Maybe if the level was higher the exp would be better Going on a lower master level job this probably a much better reward But that reward point math makes me sad If I could reliably save a few minutes per floor 2 shotting monsters instead of 3 totally worth it Has there been enough data to understand how often you can claim the ??? Feel like even if you don't want to do the event going in and doing the posted floor is a great value Bahamut.Dannyl said: » The best QoL that FFXI can ever undertake would be to remove all these timegates; gameday waiting, 20 hrs KI waits, 60 hr KI waits, and 3-person minimums. One can dream I guess... The reduction in ws points to unlock mythic ws is an excellent change
I question the "NMs spawn and drop a ??? when killed" mechanic. I wrote something to /check every monster within range (matching a filter) and it seems to work as intended. However, today I spawned a ??? in Apollyon and there were no ITG /checks.
I think the mechanic is something simpler like "1% chance of ??? spawning if it's not already spawned and you kill a monster with physical damage in Apollyon" or "3% chance of ??? spawning if it's not already spawned and you kill a monster with magical damage in Temenos."
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Or it's still broken but I enjoy the reasoning and discovery
Anything we can do to crowdsourced better? Like an addon that logs last id when ??? Spawns or something Elad said: » My original point still stands, there's unnecessary friction applied unevenly across the game. Come on, man. Give SE a break. The one box fan they have pointed at the servers can't possibly keep all of the instances cool at the same time. Think of all the people who are waiting in line right now to play Expeditionary Force, Garrison, ENM, BCNM, SKCNM, ZNM, ISNM, Stronghold Invasion, Astral Candescence and last, but not least: Echo-Warrior. Stop thinking about yourself, for real. I haven't spam limbus since it came out... but how often you can get the ??? Is it weekly reset??
Asura.Yankke said: » I haven't spam limbus since it came out... but how often you can get the ??? Is it weekly reset?? |
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