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I’m still convinced they pick a mob type and a floor. And Temenos has TONS of Nope mob camps that everyone sneaks by to get to the porter.
Neither of us popped it.
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I've done a full clear, I know you said you did one too. Neither of us popped it. Asura has had 2 temenos ???s. if SE said they were "making it easier" then simply killing in temenos was never the answer. For whatever reason they made them different. So simply killing still isn't. It's not impossible that "simply killing" isnt it for apolly either but it feels like it is. Simply killing the naraka supposedly isn't the criteria to get the box. Doing 50% of the dmg directly to naraka (i.e. non-AOE dmg) is it... but no one ever kills it indirectly so unless you purposefully tried to fail the condition to reveal no box, you'd never know. For a time I would go into sort and try to fail conditions. It's how I know 50% back damage is for w/e reason not the thing for botulus. You only need 40%.
Anyway regardless of all that stuff... unless people are going to physically check every damn mob they fight or even run past, it's a moot point. Only other possibility is SE is just lying or wrong and it is actually bugged. But same thing if that's true, moot point. klayy said: » unless people are going to physically check every damn mob they fight or even run past This is the key point why I think it's been bugged since the beginning and never fixed. SE has bare minimal development resources for FFXI and it's clear they are cutting back on testing, just put it live and anything that is obviously broken the players will report and then SE can quickly fix it, i.e. the teleporters working just fine before yet SE tweaked them and broke it without noticing it themselves, the players had to catch it. If the ITG mob spawned with a unique name, the players would spot it's existence 100% of the time and would take note if the ??? was spawning or not spawning, or if the NM just wasn't spawning at all, etc. The players would have spotted the pattern and reported what wasn't working to SE and then SE would fix it proper. But because 99% of players are just rushing through grinding their clears and are not aware what's going on with the ITG mob at all, we cannot be the testers SE needs us to be and articulate what isn't working, so SE is essentially blind to the problem, so its understandable it's persisted for so long and they think they made Temenos ??? easier, but clearly haven't and they certainly aren't testing it thoroughly themselves.
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Theres ~750 mobs in Temenos. Presuming you kill the bare minimum and only check the extras, thats still ~638 mobs to check.
I believe you can only check one mob every 2 seconds or so. Thats over 21 minutes of checking mobs presuming no errors. Thats 21 minutes extra tacked onto your clear that takes like 50 minutes. Yeah I would love to pay attention and try to spot what's going wrong, but it's just too much effort to check everything. My top guess is along the lines of what SE reported as the original bug, when the ITG mob is idle, it checks ITG, but then on pull/aggro the newly invented dynamic level adjustment takes place, the bug occurs and the mob loses its ITG status, and thus loses its ability to drop the ???. This is the top thing I'd want to pay attention to, I'd predict if the mob continues to check ITG just before its death, then you might get a ???. If its no longer checking ITG then you won't get a ???.
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Still no report of the Temenos ??? on Asura, after what, 2 weeks since their patch?
Whatever it is they "fixed" I'd dare to say it's not enough? Just need more bot parties.
I mean we are back at sea it is on brand to "fix" things here like they "fixed" AV so many times
I have no motivation to do any more limbus after just a handful of pieces. I really think the prices should have been 9/12/15/18/21k or so. I'd be more inclined to make some of the less important pieces at lower prices, but I'm not going to grind at these rates.
Because the Temenos ??? Is so rare, at this point it should be 15000 Temenos units flat, to make up for all the times we've not been able to get it because it was bugged.
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