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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-25 13:33:03
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Godfry said: »
Wait, were you able to replace your Reisenjima gear completely once you beat lower Oddy vengeances? Or You are just trying really hard to misinterpret what I said just to make a point?

We did initial Kalunga V15 with DRK and WAR. None of them were using any Valorous gear at the time because Sakpata's set was so unbelievably busted. So yes, people did completely replace their Reisenjima gear after clearing lower veng levels.
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 13:39:05
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Dodik said: »
If your argument is "rimbus doesn't have enough reward to keep me interested" I think you're missing the point of rimbus.

It's a more relaxed content compared to the other current endgamw content, you can do it full alliance if you want, you can do it solo if you want, you can take pet jobs and any other job under the sun and it doesn't hurt you at all wrt rewards.

Compared to sortie it's like relaxing in a warm tub after a hard day.

You're like the squirrel on a treadmill chasing the nut thinking if you just go fast enough you'll get there.

Maybe slow down and enjoy the game on your way. Most fun for me is killing stuff and using the unique combat system.

If you want sweaty hard stuff with big PP rewards there's ody and sortie for you, that's covered.

You used a whole lot of strawman argument to say something so simple: you enjoy the slow pace of Limbus. I'm unsure why I have to enjoy it also. It's not a content for me. I've always liked the more challenging part of FF11. I'm unsure if you think that beating a content that pretty much everyone else beat is big PP. I'm not bragging about beating Trials. I just like short - challenging events more than slow-paced grindy ones.

Limbus has its audience. Just not me. It won't make me look at my current gearsets and say "I have to change a few pieces here if I want to beat this content".
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 13:41:20
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Godfry said: »
Wait, were you able to replace your Reisenjima gear completely once you beat lower Oddy vengeances? Or You are just trying really hard to misinterpret what I said just to make a point?

We did initial Kalunga V15 with DRK and WAR. None of them were using any Valorous gear at the time because Sakpata's set was so unbelievably busted. So yes, people did completely replace their Reisenjima gear after clearing lower veng levels.

I'm pretty sure your war was using relic head and body for WS and legs and feet for TP (which can still be used to this day). But, hey, you gotta make a point.
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By Dodik 2025-06-25 13:42:50
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You were never the audience. It's fine if you don't like it.
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 13:45:24
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You were never the audience. It's fine if you don't like it.

Isn't that what I have been saying? And the reason why I didn't like it? lol.

Anyways, I'm happy that people are!
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-25 13:55:46
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Godfry said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Godfry said: »
Wait, were you able to replace your Reisenjima gear completely once you beat lower Oddy vengeances? Or You are just trying really hard to misinterpret what I said just to make a point?

We did initial Kalunga V15 with DRK and WAR. None of them were using any Valorous gear at the time because Sakpata's set was so unbelievably busted. So yes, people did completely replace their Reisenjima gear after clearing lower veng levels.

I'm pretty sure your war was using relic head and body for WS and legs and feet for TP (which can still be used to this day). But, hey, you gotta make a point.

Those aren't reisenjima pieces? You specifically were talking about Reis gear.
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 14:22:54
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Where do you get af3 again? Reisenjima. The stats on af3 and relic are also similar to Valorius. They are very squishy compared to oddy gear. You know this, but, again, like Maletaru, you gotta make a point.

Oddy itself had the progression that I liked. You keep upping your gear to beat stronger vengeances.

Done with this topic. I'm glad limbus pleases a lot of people and seems like people are having fun. Nothing against it!
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-25 14:26:05
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I log in - I help people - I help friends - or Solo and help others when I see them in trouble

I log out

Limbus is fun

How DARE you!

You are aren't supposed to enjoy the game you are supposed to slave away mercilessly on hard core content.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-25 14:26:51
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Kadokawa said: »
The poster above is just braging about he's progress in he's newly bought account, just ignore him, he's one of these Elite jerks.

Wait what, he got another one?
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 14:31:56
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Kadokawa said: »
The poster above is just braging about he's progress in he's newly bought account, just ignore him, he's one of these Elite jerks.

Wait what, he got another one?

How much did you pay for your current one Saevel? Because Saevel got banned for botting oddy clears. Teleporting in sortie, etc. And you bought a new one, and will likely get banned again from what I hear. Lol.

Imagine a guy who is currently using a bought account because his original one got banned for using Tako to get clears, talking about people buying account? Idiot Sandwich.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-25 14:33:23
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Godfry said: »
Where do you get af3 again? Reisenjima. The stats on af3 and relic are also similar to Valorius. They are very squishy compared to oddy gear. You know this, but, again, like Maletaru, you gotta make a point.

So "reisenjima gear" does not mean artifact/relic, and you know this. The fact that you're now trying to squeeze that descriptor in after your initial posts were unclear is deceptive. Because right here, you specifically isolate them as different sets.

Godfry said: »
Wait, were you able to replace your Reisenjima gear completely once you beat lower Oddy vengeances? Or You are just trying really hard to misinterpret what I said just to make a point? Not only reisenjima but AF-RELIC gear were still super relevant before Sortie.

You were obviously talking about Valorous etc gear when you said "Reisenjima gear" so I was responding to that claim. Don't try to flip it with the whole "uhhh i meant its FROM reisenjima" >.> Come on dude

And I have nothing to do with Maletaru. Do you honestly think I am just trying to prove a point here? You made a claim that people were jumping into V15s with Reisenjima gear, which we corrected by saying you could buy the Odyssey gear before fighting V15 (which most people did). You think this is some agenda to prove you wrong? It's just facts about history, what are you talking about?
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By Godfry 2025-06-25 14:40:18
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
So "reisenjima gear" does not mean artifact/relic, and you know this. The fact that you're now trying to squeeze that descriptor in after your initial posts were unclear is deceptive. Because right here, you specifically isolate them as different sets.
No, the discussion is not about a specific set of gear. It's about getting a considerable upgrade as reward for beating a difficult content. I even used relic and af elsewhere in the discussion.

The central point is that going from gear such as reisenjima gear to oddy gear was a huge upgrade. Getting AF+4 is not a major upgrade on the gear that we already have.

You can keep getting hungup on Valorous, because you are trying to make a point that does not have much to do what I am saying.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-25 15:28:27
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By the way, Limbus 130 is very good for Job Points. I just did a Temenos climb on my non-mastered WHM (healing is braindead) and got over 120 points from start to finish in about 40 minutes. Was getting about 30k/kill, and I don't think there's a CP campaign going on right now? Easy 2 birds/one stone.
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By klayy 2025-06-25 20:39:14
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Easy 2 birds/one stone.

If such a powerful stone dropped in temenos, maybe ppl wouldn't be whining so much :D
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-06-26 02:10:45
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Where's Temenos ??? on Asura now? used to be North 2 ramp
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-26 03:18:31
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Let's talk about break points in Limbus.
As we all know the number of targets you have to kill goes up as the number of players in your party goes up.

I've done some tests, but would love confirmation, and it seems to me this number goes up in tiers.

4-5 people in Temenos is the same amount of targets required to kill (4 in Northern, Western and Eastern tower).
Goes up by 1 if you have 6 people.

Also it seems that trusts do count for that. If I have 5 people in pt and summon a trust the number of kills required goes up.


Can anybody confirm or deny this? What is your experience? Anybody found other "break points" in this tiered system?
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2025-06-26 03:47:27
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I was getting 4 kills required in non-central Temenos floors(lvl 130) with both 2 players and 3 trusts(5 total) and 5 players and 1 trust(6 total). I do recall it taking more in a previous run where we had a two party alliance. But whether that was scaling by player count or by party count, I'm not certain.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-26 04:01:28
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After hearing some people on Asura I grouped with that they "thoroughfully tested" that there's a break point between 5 and 6 people, I went and tested and indeed with 5 people we were required 4 kills to fill the bar in non-central Temenos 130, whereas with 6 it took 1 more.
I also tested by summoning Monberaux, and again it took 1 kill more (total of 5).

So under the ASSUMPTION that every floor on every Northern/Western/Eastern tower requires the same amount of kills, then it seemed to me that:
1) the breakpoint was indeed between 5 and 6 people
2) trusts do count towards the above number

But that's a big "if".
Because what I just assumed above, I'm not entirely sure it's the case.
What if different floors on those towers actually require different amount of kills to fill the bar?
That could be possible and would've invalidated my test, of course.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2025-06-26 07:49:55
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This also raises the question of if there are anymore break points in smaller groups like 1-4
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2025-06-26 07:54:17
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Asura.Sechs said: »
After hearing some people on Asura I grouped with that they "thoroughfully tested" that there's a break point between 5 and 6 people, I went and tested and indeed with 5 people we were required 4 kills to fill the bar in non-central Temenos 130, whereas with 6 it took 1 more.
I also tested by summoning Monberaux, and again it took 1 kill more (total of 5).

So under the ASSUMPTION that every floor on every Northern/Western/Eastern tower requires the same amount of kills, then it seemed to me that:
1) the breakpoint was indeed between 5 and 6 people
2) trusts do count towards the above number

But that's a big "if".
Because what I just assumed above, I'm not entirely sure it's the case.
What if different floors on those towers actually require different amount of kills to fill the bar?
That could be possible and would've invalidated my test, of course.

I took in 5 people and 1 trust and we only had to kill 4 monsters per floor to fill the bar so you must have miss counted when you did your "test".
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By Asura.Melliny 2025-06-26 08:14:12
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I guess semi off-topic but not really... how do ppl think we were supposed to kill Bumba? Cuz I'm guessing Kaustra wasn't it lol.

They've said as much. They expected us to skillchain and magic burst him and proc all his windows. And the problem is more than just denounce, it's also the buildup of -dt he gets every time he takes damage over 10k. If you went with that strategy he would eventually become unkillable. The damage buildup is permanent and carries across key items.

I really don't think they have a clue just how impossible of a task they set for us to kill V25 bumba, but because we circumvented the intended method with kaustra people kind of don't care anymore and s-e just overlooked it.
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By Godfry 2025-06-26 08:26:09
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I guess semi off-topic but not really... how do ppl think we were supposed to kill Bumba? Cuz I'm guessing Kaustra wasn't it lol.

They've said as much. They expected us to skillchain and magic burst him and proc all his windows. And the problem is more than just denounce, it's also the buildup of -dt he gets every time he takes damage over 10k. If you went with that strategy he would eventually become unkillable. The damage buildup is permanent and carries across key items.

I really don't think they have a clue just how impossible of a task they set for us to kill V25 bumba, but because we circumvented the intended method with kaustra people kind of don't care anymore and s-e just overlooked it.

Bumba V25 would have been peak if they removed denounce, the stupid DT build-up and allowed longer window for proccing (since we need to test multiple procs before we realize which one is the right one). Every 5 mins we have 5 mins to proc or game over.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-26 08:30:32
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Asura.Sechs said: »
I went and tested and indeed with 5 people we were required 4 kills to fill the bar in non-central Temenos 130, whereas with 6 it took 1 more.
Its 4 kills with a party of 6, not sure what you were doing to make it 5 kills. Its 7 kills in central.


I'm pretty sure Apy has different kill counts if the segment has 4 floors or 5. The 4 floor segments are 7 kills, the 5 floor segments are 6. I'd need to double check this.
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By Bahamut.Raineer 2025-06-26 09:34:35
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
I went and tested and indeed with 5 people we were required 4 kills to fill the bar in non-central Temenos 130, whereas with 6 it took 1 more.
Its 4 kills with a party of 6, not sure what you were doing to make it 5 kills. Its 7 kills in central.


I'm pretty sure Apy has different kill counts if the segment has 4 floors or 5. The 4 floor segments are 7 kills, the 5 floor segments are 6. I'd need to double check this.
I've definitely noticed this in Apollyon. The counts move around based on the type of zone.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2025-06-26 10:48:22
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Haven't you noticed the points per kill varies?

Isn't it just the number of apollyon or temenos units you get total?

points/kill varies.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-26 10:59:20
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With a pt of 6, its been four kills in Tem NEW and 7 in Tem C
every time, no variance.

Is it possible someone in your group doesnt have the same CL set and they're messing things up?
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By Taint 2025-06-26 11:10:36
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
With a pt of 6, its been four kills in Tem NEW and 7 in Tem C
every time, no variance.

Is it possible someone in your group doesnt have the same CL set and they're messing things up?


This ^

Sounds like someone has a different level set and some of the mobs are being set to their level on pull.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-26 11:22:36
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Is it understood how many kills it is for iLVL 130 vs 119? Yet?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-06-26 11:24:06
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Theres no difference provided everyone is at the same CL
If the person aggroing targets is a lower CL than everyone else, then everyone else will get less credit to their completion (or no credit if the tagger is CL119 and they're set to 130).

The difference is the amount of units you get per cycle
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-26 11:42:34
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How soon until people ask for a double units/Limbus campaign?
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