Just out of curiosity, anyone remember when they got their Vital Grace KI?
I did my 5 rounds of Temenos before I stepped foot in Apollyon.
Teme 1 = Teme verification key
Teme 2 = Dilineated Grace
Teme 3/4/5 = nothing
Apy 1 = Apy verification key
Apy 2 = Angelic Grace
Apy 3 = Vital Grace
Was this just coincidence that I didnt get the Vital Grace KI on Teme 3/4/5, or is the condition for the Vital Grace to open Apy and Teme Boxes 3x teach?
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Seems like the requirement is having both the other graces, then opening a box.
Thats what I'm trying to confirm, did you get your VG after opening 3 boxes in each zone?
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: » Fenrir.Ahlen said: » Fenrir.Jinxs said: » Anyone test out things like geo debuff penalties? This isn't testing the nerf SE does to geomancy BTW. Normally, they nerf ALL debuff geomany, including indi- and geo-, and they reduce both of them by the same amount. There's functionally no difference between a geo- and an indi- spell except BoG/EA. Hoooooo boy I found a really nice bug, and not a good one.
I wanted to see if you could toss your temp item and get the full unit reward for clearing a cycle? Well, not only do you still get the halved amount, you lose your temp item and cant get another, it doesnt go to recycle bin. I tried resetting my level, and I still cant get a temp item after clearing a cycle. I'm gonna see if I *** my char out of the box, or if the temp item is just a reminder for the player and floor clear is stored server side. I suspect / c Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Hoooooo boy I found a really nice bug, and not a good one. I wanted to see if you could toss your temp item and get the full unit reward for clearing a cycle? Well, not only do you still get the halved amount, you lose your temp item and cant get another, it doesnt go to recycle bin. I tried resetting my level, and I still cant get a temp item after clearing a cycle. I'm gonna see if I *** my char out of the box, or if the temp item is just a reminder for the player and floor clear is stored server side. I did that last night, we were doing a tower I had already completed. If you drop a KI you also don't get the half credit for a repeat. If you zone out to Al'Taieu and zone back in you get all your temps back. Makes sense since if you could drop them then botting would be faster than doing Chest runs. I'm glad they didn't overlook it. (or got lucky lol)
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Glad I did *** one of my chars over.
I can take the opportunity to see if having the temps matter before I go zone out to restore iit. Ragnarok.Martel said: » Interesting little tidbit. Banish's SDT reduction vs undead appears to also extend to the DT that all Limbus mobs have. Banish II with +30 banish effect(which would cap the effect vs non-NMs) appears to be completely removing the damage reduction. And not just the regular undead related resistance.  I will note, for anyone who is not aware, that the special defense reduction effect on Banish can be resisted. And this was getting resisted a lot when cast by a GEO/WHM. 220 divine skill, +223 MND, and +499 macc. WHM main wouldn't have any issues, I'd think, but subbed divine skill is quite a nerf. And the effect seems to be inaccurate to begin with. Still, pretty fun to be able to bypass the DT effect at all. If only on Undead mobs. I noticed Tomahawk does the same thing, but for only one monster. I believe the new limbus mobs have +50 SDT to all types/elements which stacks with any preexisting +SDT. Elementals for example have 100% SDT to all physical damage. Fortunately, the only regular Elementals currently present in Limbus are pets, which we can just ignore. But if they add any as regular mobs without adjusting the physical SDT value.. that's gonna be annoying.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Just out of curiosity, anyone remember when they got their Vital Grace KI? I did my 5 rounds of Temenos before I stepped foot in Apollyon. Teme 1 = Teme verification key Teme 2 = Dilineated Grace Teme 3/4/5 = nothing Apy 1 = Apy verification key Apy 2 = Angelic Grace Apy 3 = Vital Grace Was this just coincidence that I didnt get the Vital Grace KI on Teme 3/4/5, or is the condition for the Vital Grace to open Apy and Teme Boxes 3x teach?  Would help if I read the fine print lol
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Hoooooo boy I found a really nice bug, and not a good one. I wanted to see if you could toss your temp item and get the full unit reward for clearing a cycle? Well, not only do you still get the halved amount, you lose your temp item and cant get another, it doesnt go to recycle bin. I tried resetting my level, and I still cant get a temp item after clearing a cycle. I'm gonna see if I *** my char out of the box, or if the temp item is just a reminder for the player and floor clear is stored server side. I suspect / c Or it gave me the temp item some point way later and didnt tell me. I stopped checking for it after I re-cleared the floor, changed level to 119 then back to 130 and cleared the floor again. Either way, the "bug" is of no concequence. Minaras84 said: » Felgarr said: » Minaras84 said: » Bst has it easy, just pop Sultry Patrice, let it aggro everything, and then take them down one by one. That little thing is a tank. I would love to try a BST/COR (maybe 1 SMN party) in Limbus. Is anything charmable by chance, even if just for silly shennanigans? /dnc is a must for me, spectral jig is too good. Some said there are charmable mobs in Temenos, but i havent seen a single one, they're all beastmen basically. In Apollyon you can use charm. There are a couple birds in there but nothing worth considering. Minaras84 said: » Bst has it easy, just pop Sultry Patrice, let it aggro everything, and then take them down one by one. That little thing is a tank. Arthur can take some hits too I imagine. Very high damage resistance and high HP, can spam Ooze for claim. Then again, Patrice has Fluid Spread + Digest Combo, which is basically a free Reward, plus more defensive survivability. Claim stuff > Snarl away the hate, easy choice. Super cool application, I love that little slime. edit: oh yeah, bst sounds nifty with 3-trust limit. Can use a number of pets depending on what you want to do. Peter for heals and drop healer trust. Sheep for Rage and Sleepga. Raaz tank to eat the annoying mobs (Corse, Tauri etc). Nobody found Temenos' ??? on Asura yet, right?
Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Temp items being in your inventory is purely cosmetic reference points to let you see what floors you cleared. Or it gave me the temp item some point way later and didnt tell me. I stopped checking for it after I re-cleared the floor, changed level to 119 then back to 130 and cleared the floor again. Either way, the "bug" is of no concequence. Did you proceed to finish the set and open a chest before leaving the zone? I reported back on page 3 that throwing away temp items and re-zoning replaces them, but I didn't try opening a chest with one "missing" to see if that also works. Asura.Sechs said: » Nobody found Temenos' ??? on Asura yet, right? I looked all around the central areas with no luck. Went there first since I thought the other zones are small enough someone would notice by now.
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There might be a good chance the Temenos ???
Is triggered by killing a certain mob Buddy reported finding the ??? The day after i went through all the floors Killing every single mob once I answered that in a later post.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: » Temp items being in your inventory is purely cosmetic reference points to let you see what floors you cleared. Or it gave me the temp item some point way later and didnt tell me. I stopped checking for it after I re-cleared the floor, changed level to 119 then back to 130 and cleared the floor again. Either way, the "bug" is of no concequence. When I opened the chest, it said I lost all temp items, including the one I tossed. Just double checked by tossing multiple temp items moments before opening a chest:  Dildonunchucks said: » There might be a good chance the Temenos ??? Is triggered by killing a certain mob Buddy reported finding the ??? The day after i went through all the floors Killing every single mob once I suggested it earlier but it fell on deaf ears Carbuncle.Nynja said: » I wouldnt be surprised if the one in temenos was broken OR it pops up randomly when one specific mob dies. Considering the temenos layout compared to apollyon, that would explain why there are less reports of it in Temenos. Temenos has one direct route between portals with mobs in separate groups, whereas in Apollyon you can fan out between portals and the mobs are all over the place. There were also people who went in both zones and did some packet tomfoolery and deduced the ??? wasnt up in either zone after maint. I did a couple runs through and wound up clearing out everything along the way over the 5 runs, other than central because it has more sets of mobs than needed, and I dont think I've popped it yet. Either: A-it pops after the mob despawns and I'm running away too quick. B-its in central C-theres some other condition, but I'm highly skeptical of that one. On Lakshmi, the Temenos ??? did not move (or rerolled to the exact same spot) this week and does not give points to anyone who got the bonus units last week. Those who report that they didn't touch it last week are getting units.
Apollyon's ??? moved spots and gives units as normal. Quote: Teme North = 4 kill N1 = Orc Quad Weapon Yags N2 = Quad Doll1 Yag/Gigas Doll2 Orc N3 = Quad/Orc Goblin/Yagudo N4 = Meeble/yag Quad/Orc N5 = Orc Quad Orc Quad N6 = Doll Yags Weapon Yags N7 = Orc Bomb/Quad Yags Teme West = 4 kill W1 = Sahagin Antica MagicPot Crypto W2 = Antica Golem1 Gigas/Crypt Golem2 Sahagin W3 = Sahagin/Antica Goblin/Crypt W4 = Meeble/Crypto Sahagin/Antica W5 = Sahagin Antica Sahagin Antica W6 = Golem/Crypt MagicPot/Crypt W7 = Sahagin Snoll/Antica Crypto Teme East = 4 kill E1 = Aern Euvhi Pixie Ghrah E2 = Euvhi Unseelie1 Ghrah/Gigas Unseelie2 Aern E3 = Aern/Euvhi Ghrah/Goblin E4 = Meeble/Ghrah Aern/Euvhi E5 = Aern Euvhi Aern Euvhi E6 = Useelie/Ghrah Ghrah/Pixie E7 = Aern Djinn/Euvhi Ghrah Teme Cen = 8 kill C1 = Orc1 Orc2 Orc3 Doll/Weapon Quad1 Quad2 Quad3 Weapon/Doll Yag1 Yag2 Yag3 Cluster+Bomb C2 = Crypto1 Crypto2 Golem/Djinn+Snoll Antica1 Antica2 Pot/Cluter+Snoll Sahagin1 Sahagin2 C3 = Aern Ghrah/Euvhi Pixie Ghrah/Euvhi Aern Cluster+Djinn(east) Aern Cluster+Djinn(west) Aern Euvhi/Ghrah Unseelie Euvhi/Ghrah Aern C4 = Ghrah+Gigas Gob Meeble Euvhi Aern Unseelie(SW) Pixie(SE) Euvhi Meeble Goblin Ghrah+Gigas Did I miss anything? I'm pretty sure thats everything in Temenos. I haven’t checked out all the AF+4 sets, but they don’t seem that great. I’m wondering if it’s even worth getting them, but to each their own.
There is plenty of very good items among +4
There is many WSD pieces beating R30 Nyame or being break even or slightly below. There is a real opportunity now to make Nyame path A,C or D for some slots on some jobs. There is plenty of AF sets (or part of them), that are bis for accuracy and magic accuracy or both. There is obviously also many gear that was used even as +3, so now it's even better. There are several pieces that were glass cannon at +3 and got big enough magic evasion (some of them also physical evasion) boost at +4 to make them useable in hybrid set by mixing them with DT pieces. It's a VERY solid horizontal progression update, but people are spoiled by vertical progression upgrades and forgot it's not FFXIV.
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SimonSes said: » There is plenty of very good items among +4 There is many WSD pieces beating R30 Nyame or being break even or slightly below. There is a real opportunity now to make Nyame path A,C or D for some slots on some jobs. There is plenty of AF sets (or part of them), that are bis for accuracy and magic accuracy or both. There is obviously also many gear that was used even as +3, so now it's even better. There are several pieces that were glass cannon at +3 and got big enough magic evasion (some of them also physical evasion) boost at +4 to make them useable in hybrid set by mixing them with DT pieces. It's a VERY solid horizontal progression update, but people are spoiled by vertical progression upgrades and forgot it's not FFXIV. Well, I guess I’ll have to get a few at least; it’ll give me something new to do.
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Banhammer said: » The real Q I have is what is the Hex ID of the ??? Temenos is ID 16929543, which would be index(what you probably mean) 775, which is 0x307 in hex. Apollyon is 16933460, 596, 0x254.
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