FINAL FANTASY TACTICS - The Ivalice Chronicles

50 dollars is way to much even with all that. Here is a crisp 20 dollar bill.

I swear we need to evolve past fan-coomering, but alas, those types have brain-rot thinking this is some deal

If anything this tarnishes its legacy

The PSX Final Fantasy Tactics never launched in the UK or Europe, only NA. So I played it first time on emulator and then think I did actually buy it for PSP (before I realised how easy it was to hack and play games for free). Pretty sure even then it was only £20 and it had some enhancements over the original like added CS.

I'm not paying £50 for this for ***. At most I'd pay £20 again.

The even bigger *** with this is that we were told digital downloads would be cheaper than physical games because physical games can be resold and have... physical media. This was the biggest lie the gaming industry told us.

3d models replacing character sprites would probably had been a horrible decision, that would of been derided non-stop online. Least SE has learned their lesson and provides the original game "mode" as well.

I am not sure "polishing in the edges" describes what that up-scaling filter is doing. The 3d textures are smoothed over way to far and the character sprites lost colors (but otherwise look somewhat okay). Plus there is a weird grain over everything.

Honestly, I was really hoping for the "pixel remaster" treatment with how long FFT has not had a native PC port. Oh well.


As someone who played at NA release, Sortie and most expansions in between, I would argue that FFXI is a very different game after all the balance patches.


And it is very likely, that at some point on Steam, it will be on sale for ~$20 or less.

I mean, so is a couple drinks at the bar for my wife and I plus tip; $50 is nothing. Play Expedition 33 because it's really good and doesn't overstay its welcome, not because it's fifty bucks.

The question of value here one should be asking is not money, it's time. A rebalanced version of what was already one of the best games of all time is worth 30 or 40 hours of leisure time, easily.

I don't think it's worth 30-40 hours of my time...

But the psp vita version I own with multiple save slots is worth 2 hours of my time.

Wowowowow that was a blast from the past

This is, of course, a myth and not true.

I'm looking forward to playing it. If it is too expensive for you just wait for a discount. I'll be buying it on release because I haven't played it in over 20 years and it was one of my favorite games back in the day. Oh also, I like what SE is doing and want them to continue.

I'll pay full price for this one, for the 4th time. Love this game and super excited about a hard mode.

Never played Tactics, but heard so much praise for decades. In saying that, there's no way I'd pay £40-50 ($54-67) for an old game with some added fluff.

Fair enough if you grew up with it and don't mind paying, but this seems to be the thing to do now (see Sonic Origins). Some go the extra mile by removing originals from certain platforms before releasing the new version. It screams... "We want easy money with minimal effort! So, here's the old stuff repackaged like new so you can buy it all over again."

You should look at http://ngplus.net/InsaneDifficultyArchive/www.insanedifficulty.com/board/indexd616.html?/forum/13-final-fantasy-tactics-13/

Free patches to make the game impossibly stupidly difficult, hence the name. It will kick your teeth in even when youve got 10,000 hours on fft.

STRONG emphasis on stupidly. as in knights 100% break every piece of gear every battle. So. Fun.

Now start a petition to get SE to remake FFXI
Like they've done for how many of there other games
It's time for a 2025 remake

I've never liked fanbase projects of hard modes.It's like fans with zero video game creation experience are also bad at creating hard mode who would have thought. Is filled with ugly recolors and so many silly mechanics that are just punishing for no reason.It's not really hard when the whole thing is against you. Most fan games I just completely avoid because they're all pretty terrible.

While the Insane Difficulty board had their own approach to making tactics challenges appealing (before the more prevalent "Hard Mode" fanpatches that we may see more of nowadays), it still left a splinter in which tactics port delivered the "best" way to engage with the base game.

To those who would like a more complete package (including the online content), whether it be the PSX or PSP that left a better impression, there is an option that can let you get the best of both worlds.

Hell no! FFXI does not need a remake. It's fine as it is. You can never recreate what FFXI did throughout its entire life. Not everything needs a remake.

and I just posted this this morning...

Yeah I don't give a ***, I'm buying this game and might get it on multiple platforms. Have WOTL on my phone and it has great replay value for the couple of bucks I bought it for. Been my favorite game for years and I always enjoy replaying it. I've spent more on wristbands at the state fair for my kids than the cost of this rerelease. Just extract the damn money from my bank account...lol

Well i wouldn't want them to change much to FFXI
Maybe just more quality of life adjustments

What i meant was like bring the game up to 2025
Things like HD graphics
Stuff along those lines

I would also like to play on console again

I'm excited for this since I never beat it. I loved strategy games like this (Vandal Hearts, Kartia, Front Mission, Ogre Battle etc.) and felt it was such an underrated genre. Now they just need to remake Xenogears and I'll finally beat the games I didn't get to!

Just looking at people's reaction here, I think it's quite obvious why SE would rather remake 20 yr old games over and over instead of making something new.

I'd be willing to pay $50 for new experience in games. If it's old experience that I already know how it's like, it wouldn't even worth $0 (time=money here). But I guess as long as tons of people who prefer old experience exists, SE will continue to make money from them instead of me.

How sad, lol. I wonder if I ever get to see FF17 anymore. Or at least FFT2/FFTA3 or something. Seeing how people would rather want something old instead of new.

Well when they do new stuff it turns out ***like 16, so it's not always better. It's not expensive if you ask me

Nothing will ever beat Vandal Hearts for me, but I've played it so much I know how to do it like the back of my hand now.

I'm just not really into new video games anymore. I really only play FFXI because it's like my childhood friend that I had a lot of memories with, and I'm very familiar with it and it fits me and my lifestyle now. Even newer games like Palworld and StreetFighter are fun for me but only temporarily, because games no longer have that vintage feeling (or maybe I'm just getting older and the games don't hold my attention much anymore/busy lifestyle/no time etc). When older games I grew up playing get a new release or something that brings the nostalgia back, I am excited to relive the experience. It's also easy to replay, because I have nothing to learn, but can enjoy the story once again with a fresh mind. Some people would rather see something new than old, and that's fine too. I just don't really care for new games, but I don't think I'm alone on this either.

SE obviously sees the demographic of people who grew up on something and see a great opportunity to make some money, and they take it. It's no different than music that gets remade every decade, new renditions of older movies, remakes of cars, people going back to vinyl records, older musicians doing tours and concerts etc (ironically, these crowds sell out and its the same old music). Some people prefer the new, some still love vintage antiques/classics. There's a market for both, but from a video game developer perspective, the choice is super easy: Remake something you already have assets for, invest a few hours into upscaling it, throw a few freebies an QOL in there, and rake in the millions with very little investment. Too easy of a decision.

Somehow, I feel no remake could make things worse so...

IMO, there is a good chance for a win.

Imagine FFXI without Windower, that would be the remake.

The only reason something like Windower is possible is due to the older coding methods they used allowing for the Windower dev team to hijack ffximain.dll via hooking. Most newer engines use pointer randomization and various anti-cheat / DRM methods to combat that.

The best you can have for now is to use dgVoodoo2 to upgrade FFXI from DX8 to DX11 then reshade to apply post-processing. It really does make the game look so much better.

Personally, I'd rather play a flawed game that I've never experienced, than play a good old game that I already know where all the twists are and how to optimize.

What makes a game fun for me is to experience the unknown. What will happen next in the story? What's the optimal solution in game mechanic? Every reveal is excitement even if the execution is flawed, it still has solid chance to surprise me as long as I don't know the answer beforehand.

Once I played a game, I know the answer. I know how the story will unfold and how the game mechanic really works. The game no longer surprise me.

If I really want nostalgia from 20 years ago, I watch a let's play video on YouTube for an hour and generally get satisfaction from that.

I play many retro games personally, but I only play retro games that I didn't experience back in the day, not games I already know what will happen next.

As far as remake goes, I think it's a good way for new players to experience old games if they missed it back then. But I'd rather see more sequels or new IP from SE so it doesn't become the next Falcom that just milk old fan's money over and over.

Some companies gets market for both, like Capcom. They are still releasing RE9, MH Wild and new Onimusha game, on the same time they also re-release old games from the 90s.

Some companies make less and less of new titles, and only rely on old titles to sell. I feel SE is walking on this path unfortunately.