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Fiddling with template and switch. Now, the entire content in this sandbox example can be called with the following:

{{:Dia_template|Dia III}}
{{:Enfeeb_gear_template|dia}}

This way the template will behave in a spell domain specific fashion. Changing the Dia III, and Dia, for example, will change the content of the template to match the spell. Similarly, changing it to Bio or poison will change the content too.

Gonna learn more about styling etc before I move it to the main pages.

I wish enfeeb+ made the DEF down more, 3% on light shot is measly is ***. I always thought it was 5%.

Btw, this is an incredibly patronising attitude. Best not to assume what someone knows or does not know. Ask questions if you're not sure.

it was iirc until they changed dia's potency from i think it was 5/10/15 I/II/II to 10/15/20. And for the most part its already potent enough, outside of some specific instances its already kind of a joke to drop a mobs def in various ways

if enf potency applied to the def down effect itd basically just be the return of frailty and then we'd just get sabo NM nerf, except on all potency cause barance

Brace yourselves. New site for Dias coming soon!

"Common" sets?

Yeah, sets commonly used for dia. But if you don't like the language, please refer to these comments:

Dia pages updated.

Changed the Commonly used sets to Examples of sets for dia (extracted from their respective guides).


Most relevant information related to dia now in one place. Templated: easy to adjust.

Gonna work on models for Poison next. The plan is to go over every enfeebling spells, then go over elementals.

Being a wizard is very tiring.

No, you edit it. I mean, just look at it. You've only listed a handful of jobs (of which only WHM and RDM get the spell natively), and any job can cast Dia with the right subjob. You haven't even included tiered progression sets (fresh 99, Delve era, Skirmish, Alluvion Skirmish, Geas Fete, Ambuscade, etc.). Also, your sets seem mainly focused on magic accuracy, but you haven't even bothered to list damage-oriented sets, e.g. using Daybreak for the light elemental affinity on the initial hit and Uk'uxkaj Boots on non-RDM jobs. Uk'uxkaj Boots are in the list of gear, why not use them? Please spend more of your time on this.

Great ideas! Please help expand BG-Wiki pages.

Nah, you do it.

Nah, the page looks absolutely stunning as is. But in case you feel like it's not there yet. Please contribute.

Not sure what you did, but half the information on the Dia III page is about Dia 1.

Forgot to pass the Dia III argument to the template. Thanks for reporting it!!!!!!!!

Actually, I will take this back. I'm gonna add the Entry, Normal, HQ sets there! Good idea!

Holy smokes, people will go to a dia page and become masters of enfeebling in one go!

Please stop adding Dia sets to the page.

Sincerely,
everyone.

I know that the Upper FFXI Wizard Class (UFWC) is upset that King Byrth has confirmed my entrance into Wizardhood to make knowledge accessible to the common folks. I'm here to stay.

I'd like to apologize in advance for impacting your daily Dia page reads. But for now, if you can't handle it, I'll ask you not to scroll down until you see the gearsets.



Just wait until you see content-based sets added to every single spell page on BG-Wiki.

Wanna do Kaustra on Bumba? Say no more. Go to Kaustra (WiP) and you will see a kaustra set there.

But I want to template them based on the latest guide so that it gets updated anytime people update the guide.

Learned about the collapsible feature. Added them to the templates so that when the templates are called, they don't add too much noise to the pages.

Gonna tone down on the Collapsed title size so that even the collapse title doesn't impact the visual aspects of the spell pages.



On a further note. The district court Wizard Positron just reverted back the updates to the dia page without even engaging with the community. Proceeded to block updates to the page. I have asked for feedback on multiple discord channels and linkshells in the game and so far people have liked it. I'm documenting the feedback to share them once enough people have voiced out their opinions.

Since information can now be collapsed. It makes it very clear that the babies that have been crying on board of the Hogwart Express weren't hungry after all. They are paid protestors.

Of course, I am fighting this absurd powergrab all the way to the Supreme Leader Byrth. I hope he is wise enough to defend the constitution set by the Founding Wizards (which is him).



Make BG-Wiki Free Again (MBGWFA) - MBUHGEEOOFA!

(Posted from Godfry on his TruthSocial account.)

Hi.

I can't form a proper response because I'm typing this quickly on my phone at work, but generally speaking we don't want content-specific details or job sets on spell (or main) pages. That's not what they're for. If you'd like to include the knowledge for the sake of a certain piece of content or as a guide for a role, then we would advise you to create a guide that reflects said info. Otherwise I'd suggest including it in the discussion tab of a given spell page, since that's what discussion pages are for, right?

The pages were protected because there was a constant back and forth on editing without at least trying to reach out to anyone on the wiki about styling and information overlap.

Anyway, I have to get back to other matters so I'll try to check in later if nobody else does.

The pages were protected because Spicyryan, a globalist who doesn't even play the game anymore, reverted back the changes without even engaging with the community. I reverted it back because people have been visiting it to judge if they liked it or not.

I didn't know the opinion of a few people on FF11 was enough to dictate how information should be presented to the broader community, which is why I am personally engaging with them and asking for feedback and documenting it. I have sent comments on 7 different discord channels and currently asking Linkshell leaders to reach out to their members.

Now the dia pages are not even consistent anymore because people who reverted it back didn't even care to match the content on the three pages.

Who gets to decide if the examples of gearsets should not go to the spell page, even if fully collapsed?

Though I liked the idea of moving them to the discussion page. But before I put anymore effort into this I'd like to know if BG-Wiki is open to the community, or just the same old UFWC members whose life meaning is to collect likes from the fellow FF11 Elitist Wizards.

Lastly, I thought King Byrth meant it when he said that he favors those who will put their time into maintaining the pages. Maybe I am wrong.

Make BG-Wiki Free Again (MBGWFA) - MBUHGEEOOFA!
(Posted from Godfry on his TruthSocial account.)

Weirdly agree, but disagree too.

Gearsets go in guides. But I can see someone wanting a catch all that simply puts the bis set on the same page.

But what is best isn't always best, that's why it goes in the guide, so you can explain when and why.

Unfortunately for you, you triggered spicy and he'll endlessly alter any and everything you try to change from now on. That's why no one bothers.

And it's back to showing the Dia 1 description on the Dia III page.

Unrelated, but has it always been an EX version of the Dia scroll for starting RDM? And is/was the same true for WHM and BLM?
I honestly don't remember whether it was EX back when I originally bought the game 22 years ago.

The irony of you calling everyone else names while solely dictating what YOU think the Dia page should look like. Wild.

I fully agree, Eiryl. I was surprised to see that people felt overwhelmed by gearsets and suggested collapsing them. But when I asked them if they wanted it removed they said: No, I like it.

My plan was to provide a set example so that people have an idea of what to use, and maybe link them to the latest guide. And such set would get automatically updated if someone updated the guide. Then I was gonna reach out to the guide creators to see if they could add a spell-specific set to their guide so that information is properly linked.

You can see that even though I have been dunking on the Elderly Wizards, I have been incorporating people's suggestion - I don't think a small collapse with additional information will make the pages worse.

But the reverting back of my effort from people who are not engaged in the community and don't even play the game was honestly mind-blowing to me.

Yeah, I fixed it and Spicyryan broke it, and now they broke it again.

Wrong. The old content is still there. The new content that made you start crying onboard of the Hogwart Express was collapsed. You literally had to click to see it to start crying again.

Oh boy, here we go again.

If you make a new character and select a starting job, you get a scroll added to your inventory for that job that you get at level 1.

For rdm, that is dia. For whm it is cure. Blm I think it is fire, never made a fresh blm.

The scroll you get in this case is EX so you can't trade/sell it away.

No, I understand that. What I'm asking is: "has it always been an EX Cure/Stone/Dia since launch or was that changed at some point?" I want to say maybe it was not originally, because I have vague recollections of selling them on mules back in Bush Jr. days.

Yeah, no idea. Don't remember much of 2003.