What Would Make You Re-Sub?

For me to make the game more enjoyable would be like:

1. fix the fukin /yell those rmt bot spam are just so annoying...

2. make the "base" game more challenging, no point in having mobs designed for lvl 75 cap, when u basicly start game at lvl 99. The feeling of running for my life from a goblin in the dunes... <3

3. payment, 1 char + 8 wordrobes and a couple of mules is actualy quite expencive, it really doesn't reflect what development and time SE gives to the game.

4.be able to do end game content more often, instead of lockout for X/hour, it could rather be like u can not do it more than 2~3 times a day, or something.

5. take care of bots and rmt!

6. and yeah, just /delete abyssea, ty :p

Edit: 7. Make all endgame content LS friendly, like that was done in Eschan and Reisenjima. No longer to be able to do endgame (sortie, odessy etc) as an whole LS team, is just breaking LS up and make ppl quit.

Edit the Edit: thinking of it just pissing me off tbh, once again they show that they give a fuk in the "hard core" players, like they did in hmm 2011(?) when they made rema weapons ***compared to other weapons, which ppl had used years to make!
And now (well some years ago) launching content that u can no longer do together with ur old LS buddies...yo SE, FFXI is actualy an MMO!ffs -.-

Still subbed but this is what I see as "needs improving":

• Emphasis on fun, not prolonging content

• Make things fun and people will want to keep playing. Making things artificially take longer by, eg, introducing long run times between objectives or heavily random mechanics that then rely on luck to overcome, is objectively not fun. Remember, it's a game.

• Return to Omen style KI holding as the norm. 3-4 KIs per week on same 20hour recharge. Everyone's happy.

i actually prefer to support more often than not. whm, brd, cor.. w/e. dps once in awhile, sure. i guess i'm a rare breed. xD

This. Content design in 2016-2018 was the best imo. You get wide variety of content for every kind of player. If you want to do content with a big LS you get dynamis D. If you are hardcore with 5 other hardcore friends you can do MT.

You can do rest of the contents with static/close friends if you prefer a more tight-knit experience. And the difficulty scales depending on how many people that you bring so you can freely pick your preferred difficulty.

You can work on gears and perfect a job by doing wide variety of contents to collect gears instead of just 2, and getting every perfect gear sets for one job actually wasn't that easy for average players, so progression was satisfying. It offered both longevity and variety.

It kinda sucked that they choose to move away from this direction which worked incredibly well before.

This, for me as well, it's absurd that I have to choose 5 other people and alienate my other friends. I quit after 18 years when they didn't do ***for the 20th Anniversary.

Since this thread is about coming back, a remaster or rework with a new expansion would be about it. Until then I'll continue to chat in Discord with friends and play other games.

Geez. That's terrible. Glad you're okay now.

Mastery rank 9

The 20hour lockout that almost all have mentioned or referenced. This isn't a game that makes more money off us by logging in daily, only logging in once a month...so long as that sub stays active. And we're not in our teens and 20s any more. Players that were kids now have kids, and our schedules aren't our own any more.

One would think from a financial aspect, SE would desire to do anything possible to ensure that monthly sub stays active. But for some reason the daily login is what they focus on. Daily campaigns for Dark Matter, daily lockouts that don't stack like Omen KIs, they just don't jive with the lives of 40-year olds with jobs and families. It will always shock me that SE hasn't figured that out, or worse yet- has realized it and just doesn't care.

Still subbed but my server is a literal ghost town.

No new alliance content, KILLED THIS GAME.

Too bad they let go of the developers.

It took me quite a long time to adopt, but a very liberating perspective when it comes to FFXI and any other MMO is that there is, in fact, a hard limit to how far anyone can progress.

You actually can catch up due to that. You just have to become ok with not being competitive/on the cutting edge of all the content.

As shitty as this daily design is, and I agree, it's hypershitty, most all of us who play XI have unhealthy mindsets with regards to the game anyway.

Even if we've scaled back as we've aged, and started to recognize that the grind isn't our friend, we all have a desire to excel in this game. It feels euphoric to excel in this game. It's such a good feeling that people over invest in the game. That's the real reason for multi-boxing. Or for true soloing. Or for being on the cutting edge.

And that demands the time we don't have anymore. It always has. But the most powerful thing we could do in response, other than outright quit, is to dispel that hold over us and enjoy the game in its entirety rather than just for its achievements.

Idk, maybe that's just my cope for losing all my XI friends over the years and falling into casualness.

Your perspective is healthy.

The grind is supposed to be doing semi-menial tasks with others so you can 'git gud' enough to hit a zen phase and start BSing with other people. It's how you get anti-social nerds to socialize.

You can do that in a 6 person party, but you can't do it while playing specific comps that are optimized for running down hallways and cheesing boss mechanics. That's all work and a 2nd job.


edit: 5th expansion announced for FFXIV. It's not that they can't, they won't

its been a process im on my 5th life now 2 pneumonias as well as 2 non pneumonia infections in the lungs and a cluster of strokes will put your *** in the dirt and then icu psychosis where you pull out your chest tubes 5x and trach/feeding tubes once and you have a rough time lol but i got someone or some thing watchin my *** so

That's not exclusively a FFXI thing and SE is aware of this fact which is why there are so many DD jobs and only so few supports, healers and tanks.

The problem aren't the people, it's game design that requires 4-5 of the least popular jobs for the ideal party setup.

People who still try to propagate the next round of "you'd just need to pick up job X to get a foot in the door" after seeing what SE did on a whim to the former, from the community as such perceived, golden boys like BLU, SMN or GEO need some PNC in their life.

I am subbed, but I offer this:

SE....Why not generate a new expansion?

I am extremely ignorant of the $s and €s of how games are made to make money, but it seems to me you have several thousand people on board all ready to purchase...what? Maybe a 50 dollar expansion? Plus a bunch of predicted resubs for a year if you can create something actually fun to do? (Ie alliance content?)

How is this not a stupid easy money maker during a time people hold their wallets pretty well shut? And there's enormous amounts of reusable code in this game, so it need not be 100% new area (altho more then 50% reskinning is not exciting).

There isn't a massive amount to be made for sure, but it's way, way less of a risk for a fairly predictable return. How much is enough?

Hell, an AMAZING expansion bigger then ToAU and I'm sure you would squeeze 100 bucks out of everyone for it once word got out about it being actually fun.

[Edit - maybe The (actual) Moon? New "Lunarian" curing class? How about the moons core? Unlock "Necromancer," an undead bst-type? New Lunarian Legendary defensive weapons with ws's that give pdtII? Swat alliance battles where you survive as long as you can to increasingly powerful enemies which drop some stupidly named new currency to upgrade lunarian weps? SE has a tin to draw from. Come on...]

Not enough profit.

The people who put hours into that, are unable to put those hours into a more profitable project. Stuff for XI gets made in 5 minute intervals of downtime. Given enough of those you get something like TVR.

2nd class priority.

Is that accurate (truly asking, not trying to sound like a pr*ck)?

I'd think 300-400k invested could be predictively quintupled, all said and done. Not massive, but predictable cash nonetheless.

It's not "some reason" only.
It's been their approach for the past several years.
They want to promote in any way possible logging in daily, even if just for a short time, for all players.

In their eyes this makes the servers more lively with "real" players that might be looking for real interactions, thus making the servers more lively and creating an environment that in the long run will make players more willing to keep playing the monthly sub.

I think this is their approach. While, as a player, I despise this for the problems it personally creates to me, I can't say their approach is without merit.

Being profitable isn't enough, it has to be the most profitable project the time can be spent on. (Or, the one they "think" will be, or the one they're bribed into doing)

In current year, the board room decides everything. Making a million when you could've got 5 is an obvious choice for the C-suite. They don't care about anything else.

And the C-Suite is all boomer millionaires with their heads up their *** with zero want or desire to pull them out.

I'll probably stay subbed for the near future though taking my 60 a month elsewhere has been tempting more than a few times.

Echoing what has already been said, the game is just dreadful when it comes to respecting the player (both when it comes to time and other things as well). There really is no need to have it to where Sortie plates can't stack up to 3 at least, and the whiteknighting to defend the fact that they don't is borderline insanity.

The game's wealth of content has been distilled down to basically just two relevant events. Instead of the ***tier content that is Sortie, they could have spent time revamping older events like they have done in the past to give us a variety of things to do with multiple goals and sources for Prime weapon materials (this would have also been in line with the globetrotting adventure that TVR ended up being). Instead we have a single thing that plays out the same way every time you go into it.

I'm not going to bother listing things that I want to see changed, none of it will ever happen. But those two big points there are the main drags for me.

Wrong scale, you're talking millions by the time it is said and done to develop an expansion. When you add the cost of adding new support staff, development staff, management, marketing, etc, the cost adds up a lot higher than you would think. You then have to find people willing to work on an old project and deal with the technical issues that come with 11.

Maybe it pay out, but it's doubtful and those responsible think the resources are better spent on their 'current' MMO project. I'd be lying if I said I'd make a different decision, despite my love for this game, it's a poor business decision to invest the amount required.

The counter to all of this is that WoW, EQ2, and EQ1 are all getting expansions. So maybe there is a case to be made for it, but it's costly and a hard sell to invest this amount in a legacy project. There may be a cultural element at play too.

These decisions are also made on data, which we have no access to, it’s likely they see it differently because of that.

They rather invest it into 14, Yoshi PP making another expansion. It isn't just about a direct profit from their investment, but also increases the longevity of the games life for subscribers to stay subbed and overall health. Something they seem to not care about for XI. You honestly have to wonder what their objective is when they taken every wrong choice to steer this game into the ground.

1. The game should go free to play and should be funded by the additional inventory bags and other types of micro transactions.

2. Instead of 75 era server, introduce lv 75 cap instances of things like sky, limbus and dynamis and all that original stuff. Add +1 drops of that gear and have a points/currency system for ilv 119 equipment and weapons similar to ambuscade.

3. Do the same to the level 99 content as you do the lv 75 content.

4. Wings of the Goddess zones are and have always been dead. Maybe an opportunity to just experiment with. Do wild and random ***here. Never announce, just do.

5. Dreamlands Dynamis ilv 119.

6. More normie content. I'm 40. 2 Kids. Aging parents. Full time job. Multiple projects, hobbies and side gigs. All the restrictions and time gates on the current content is just a non-starter for me. The content needs to be more accessible without punishing you and demoralizing you for failure. I'm not coming back the next day, I'm just unsubbing.

7. The drop rates on the newest HTBC's are so stupid. What's the point? Fix them please.

I think the only thing that'd get me to log in every now and again would be the game going F2P.

Keep charging for your extra inventory slots and such for that little extra income, but I'm not paying $13/month for a game that's bottom of the barrel priority/in its death bed from the companies on mouth and actions, with them making the team even smaller and telling us in no uncertain terms once AVR is over the games on the way out.

If I could play for free, I wouldn't feel like i'm wasting money every day I don't log in, or feel like I'm wasting money if I take a short break and so forth. I still find parts of the game fun, which is why I come back every so often during the f2P events, but yah, I think the only thing getting me to come back would be a complete conversion to F2P.

But also acknowledge that very thing would probably quicken the games death as it would be making less money, so I don't expect it to happen, but who knows, maybe inventory spaces will pay for the server capacity and the one intern keeping the code together.

lower monthly cost. Not paying 26 euros a month anymore.

Guys, RMT subs don't pay for wardrobes.

Not my problem.

I respect the comments of "not paying 26 bucks for a 22 year old game", but on the contrary, we do have to face facts that we're hoping a game that by all definition is outdated and wouldn't be approved as a new project by any company today survives. Sometimes you gotta overpay for rarity and niche desires, even if the product in a vacuum doesn't justify that cost. Its the desire we pay for more than the product.