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By Asura.Rafike 2021-03-10 02:19:45
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Our group got hit with a 3k+ Denounce @ 52% on v0.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2021-03-10 02:21:03
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Asura.Essylt said: »
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effort
I know right! Like all those chumps who didn't win millions in the lottery - they just didn't put in effort.

I'd question your false equivalence, but can't expect anyone from Asura to know what the *** "effort" means when it comes to this game.
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By Pantafernando 2021-03-10 02:21:47
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Someone please make an estimate how many months it will be necessary to fully augment the entire Nyame set.
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By Asura.Essylt 2021-03-10 02:24:52
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Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
Asura.Essylt said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
effort
I know right! Like all those chumps who didn't win millions in the lottery - they just didn't put in effort.

I'd question your false equivalence, but can't expect anyone from Asura to know what the *** "effort" means when it comes to this game.
Getting a low probability result from a random number generator vs. getting a low probability result from a different random number generator

Yes, do tell about the false equivalence. The lottery non-winners just had to buy more tickets, right? Gotta put in that effort.
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By Lobivopsis 2021-03-10 02:31:02
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Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »

K v5 he's a ***. wiped at 1% denounce is Hp based, the more HP u have, the more dmg u get hit with. Had to cheese last 1% with cheese jobs and 2nd Phone2 (he regened to 5% upon next phone2 usage)

Wait, you can re-enter if you wipe and pick up where you left off by spending another moglophone II? Never seen this mentioned anywhere before.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2021-03-10 02:32:22
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Asura.Essylt said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
Asura.Essylt said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
effort
I know right! Like all those chumps who didn't win millions in the lottery - they just didn't put in effort.

I'd question your false equivalence, but can't expect anyone from Asura to know what the *** "effort" means when it comes to this game.
Getting a low probability result from a random number generator vs. getting a low probability result from a different random number generator

Yes, do tell about the false equivalence. The lottery non-winners just had to buy more tickets, right? Gotta put in that effort.

You know what I can tell? that you're trying to derail this thread with offtopic nonsense now. Begone.
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By Asura.Essylt 2021-03-10 02:34:38
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Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
You know what I can tell? that you're trying to derail this thread with offtopic nonsense now. Begone.
Sure bruh. And you keep telling yourself that your lucky rolls are the result of your "effort" lmao.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2021-03-10 02:43:50
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Pantafernando said: »
Someone please make an estimate how many months it will be necessary to fully augment the entire Nyame set.

at 6k farmed segments a day, it would take 19 days for the first piece, then 17 days for each of the other pieces assuming you farm nothing but Vengeance +15 each time after unlocking and with no wipes. (at least this is what it looks like according to the BGWiki page: 13060 RP at 392 RP per kill)

keep in mind not very many people have even cleared Vengeance +5 yet.
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By Serjero 2021-03-10 02:49:09
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More excited that even if slightly worse (let's be real in actuality we're talking <3%) it frees up a whole hell of a lot of inventory space. 5/5 of this gear at max rank for the WSD path can take the place of DM aug gear on pretty much all the jobs that would otherwise go for multiple different DM augs, since this set covers Phys/Ranged/Magic/Hybrid WSs. So if you're one of the people who kind of has everything geared and likes to switch it up, it let's you do so without dealing with nearly as much inventory hell on a constant basis. Maybe not nearly as important to people who are super dedicated to 1-3 jobs that share the same stuff (COR and RNG come to mind).

More importantly, being able to WS w/ high DT high M.eva is gonna be super nice in content where lag and getting stuck in WS sets can be common (W3 Dyna) and can kill you.

Also on that note is lag in Gaol still better as more people are hitting the server/those zones? Is lag in odyssey in general better?
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By Bosworth 2021-03-10 02:50:50
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Where does the new music track they added play? Is it in the mega boss fight for Odyssey or Ambuscade?
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By Weeew 2021-03-10 03:01:06
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Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
It's amazing what happens when you put effort into this game. These are two of the pieces I own, and neither one of these will be replaced by Nyame no matter how many months it takes for them to even reach R20.





For Leaden Salute purposes, Nyame Head, Body and Feet are not going to beat Pixie +1/Relic+3 Body/Relic+3 Feet so no need to replace those at all.

Not denying those are AMAZING pieces but you should not neglect the skillchain damage on the new gear. Situational but still a replacement in that sense.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2021-03-10 03:02:02
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Bosworth said: »
Where does the new music track they added play? Is it in the mega boss fight for Odyssey or Ambuscade?

Think was SR music, but wife is asleep so i had the ***turned down way low.
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By Phoenix.Jakarai 2021-03-10 03:17:40
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this new gear makes me extremely happy. wotg is the only exspansion i have not completed.
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By Asura.Doryl 2021-03-10 03:21:50
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is Nyame set Rare EX like others ?
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By Asura.Kusare 2021-03-10 03:22:13
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Bosworth said: »
Where does the new music track they added play? Is it in the mega boss fight for Odyssey or Ambuscade?
Bumba (Odyssey)
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By Bahamut.Suph 2021-03-10 03:28:31
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2021-03-10 03:55:53
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Looking like R20 is it. Was hoping for a release or confirmation that things go to R30 (since datmining hinted at it for the other sets).
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2021-03-10 03:59:22
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Serjero said: »
Also on that note is lag in Gaol still better as more people are hitting the server/those zones? Is lag in odyssey in general better?

It's finally playable, zero lag here on pretty much everyone that did odyssey in my Ls after update. 15+ reported zero to very little lag (gaol)
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By Aerix 2021-03-10 04:03:41
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Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Serjero said: »
Also on that note is lag in Gaol still better as more people are hitting the server/those zones? Is lag in odyssey in general better?

It's finally playable, zero lag here on pretty much everyone that did odyssey in my Ls after update. 15+ reported zero to very little lag (gaol)

No lag in Odyssey in general, or just Gaol specifically?
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2021-03-10 04:16:14
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Asura.Sesshmaru said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
It's amazing what happens when you put effort into this game. These are two of the pieces I own, and neither one of these will be replaced by Nyame no matter how many months it takes for them to even reach R20.





For Leaden Salute purposes, Nyame Head, Body and Feet are not going to beat Pixie +1/Relic+3 Body/Relic+3 Feet so no need to replace those at all.

Edit: I was going off of R15 values at the time. At R20, the Nyame Body *might* tie the Relic +3 Body in non-skillchain situations and beats it when it's used during a skillchain. The Pixie Hairpin +1 and Relic +3 feet are still on top in every situation.

I do settle for less if more mean spend money on Stones that profit rmt most.

DM Augments cost nothing but the time it takes to level a same-pol-account character to 99 and finish missions up to Reisenjima access. You can very easily get it all done before the next time the campaign comes around.
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By Bismarck.Xurion 2021-03-10 04:19:24
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Asura.Doryl said: »
is Nyame set Rare EX like others ?
Looks that way. It must mean you have to decide which augments will benefit you more.
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By Bahamut.Lexouritis 2021-03-10 04:19:29
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Aerix said: »
No lag in Odyssey in general, or just Gaol specifically?

Did n't have phone '1s' available as we went prior to the update, but Gaol is 100% fixed. Sheol was never really that bad in terms of lag, not sure if it got better, worse, stayed the same. (it was still playable at least before the update)
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By Bismarck.Xurion 2021-03-10 04:22:19
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Fingers crossed Dyna has also benefitted from the lag fix.
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By RadialArcana 2021-03-10 04:28:21
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Fingers crossed Dyna has also benefitted from the lag fix.

Doubtful, nobody actively complained about that.
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By Bahamut.Balduran 2021-03-10 04:39:55
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Bismarck.Xurion said: »
Fingers crossed Dyna has also benefitted from the lag fix.

I sincerely hope SE took this opportunity to look into other zones which triggered the same consequence when latency was above a certain threshold. Ofcourse the lag in Dyna was not comparable with the magnitude of Gaol (or is it?), but I still hope they take the initiative to work on optimizing their code on those other zones as well, an improvement would be much appreciated.
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By Asura.Syto 2021-03-10 05:00:58
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Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
Asura.Sesshmaru said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
It's amazing what happens when you put effort into this game. These are two of the pieces I own, and neither one of these will be replaced by Nyame no matter how many months it takes for them to even reach R20.





For Leaden Salute purposes, Nyame Head, Body and Feet are not going to beat Pixie +1/Relic+3 Body/Relic+3 Feet so no need to replace those at all.

Edit: I was going off of R15 values at the time. At R20, the Nyame Body *might* tie the Relic +3 Body in non-skillchain situations and beats it when it's used during a skillchain. The Pixie Hairpin +1 and Relic +3 feet are still on top in every situation.

I do settle for less if more mean spend money on Stones that profit rmt most.

DM Augments cost nothing but the time it takes to level a same-pol-account character to 99 and finish missions up to Reisenjima access. You can very easily get it all done before the next time the campaign comes around.

DM Augs cost more time than Odyssey Augment System.. The Oseem DM Augment Reward/Effort system is not worth it for marginally tiny bit of increase in MAB you want to achieve for your Leaden Set.. I am only talking about Herc. pieces that will be replaced (Herculean Legs Primarily and Hands you have merely 6 more MAB on one piece and 2 more MAB on one piece.. And both pieces have less R.ACC/M.ACC than Nyame..

Benefits of Nyame Flanchard at Base vs Herc (Legs):
75 More MEVA (Why would you not want this?)
40 More Ranged Accuracy (Why would you not want this?)
21 More Magic Accuracy (Why would you not want this?)
2 More Agility (Why would you not want this?)
6% More Skill Chain Damage (Why would you not want this?)
-8% Damaged Taken (Why would you not want this?)
76 More HP (Why would you not want this?)
55 More Defense (Why would you not want this?)

versus:

Your DM Aug'd Herc Trousers:
75 Less MEVA
40 Less Ranged Accuracy
21 Less Magic Accuracy
2 Less Agility
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Only appeal your Herc Trousers Has For Leaden is:
6 more MAB
4 more STP

Probably in situations where you are completely safe, you will pull ahead in straight zerg in DPS and where very high MACC is not needed and you are fighting a single mob/NM from start to finish..

However, in realistic endgame scenarios like fighting Voltes/Volte NMs that constantly spam AOE in Dyna-D Wave 3, Odyssey farming various Fodder the resistances change constantly from mob to mob and threats from AOE Damage and Magical Ailments always looming over you..Nyame wins..

Especially in Dyna-D Wave 3 where Lag is still an issue for many, even though Odyssey has improved lag situations, you still can get a lag spike and get stuck in your WS set from gearswap packet loss issues. It happens from time to time..

With Nyame Set you have a bit more peace of mind even if you get caught stuck in this set when AOE damage goes off.. Survivability is worth more than 6 more MAB..

I know you love your Oseem Augments, but.. this is a reality..

However, seeing how lucky you are, maybe Oseem likes you more, and will give you something with even greater margins..

...I will cheer you on! Go get that Oseem!


I have had so many people complain about Oseem system from every server.. It's a shitty system designed to make odds very hard..

People have done campaigns for years since DM Aug campaigns have come out and on multiple accounts daily and not missing a single free DM roll.. and even then they have achieved nothing close to what Nyame gives you in approximately 90 days to fully Augment to Max...

I know it's a grind, but Odyssey Effort/Reward system is far better to reach maximum power on COR for Leaden Salute and many other jobs than Cancerous Oseem Augment System... Unless you have an affinity to win the Oseem Jackpot frequently..lol
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By Asura.Aeonova 2021-03-10 05:03:11
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I already know the answer is "no" due to how they even stopped allowing later HTBF equipment from being muled, but can you mule any of this new armor?
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By Asura.Syto 2021-03-10 05:11:53
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I mean....... Look at what Poor Ejinn had to make his LS members and Poor Village Townspeople go through back in the day just to try win rolls on DM....

Sacrificial Offerings to Lord Oseem was a normal thing in the Daily life of Ejinn and the Oseem Augment System... It worked too for him he pulled off some great Augs!

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How can you defend such a system???? You are sick!
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-03-10 05:16:20
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You still need to beat the new boss on V5-15+to get rank points so any amazing herc gear still isnt useless just yet.
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