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By Veydal1 2025-11-25 13:16:57
I would highly recommend revising your sets for when creating MBs, and also checking with other party members to reduce their magic damage as much as possible. Any amount of damage is going to count towards that 'wall', it's not a magic number of 10k. That was the thought initially, but was proven to not be the case. A lot of spells go out to setup MBs with skillchain and debuffs. Can add up.
What does your SC setup look like? Some folks hitting in the 80's was because they were doing a shorter SC.
The standard 6-step SC with SCH and BLU -
Earth Element > Wind Element (Detonation) > Earth Element (Scission) > Wind Element (Detonation) > Dark Element (Gravitation) > Quadratic Continuum (Darkness)
Typical debuffs, including Impact (our RDM landed theirs before the SC even started). My BLU debuffs, Searing Tempest and Tearing Gust, each landed for 2k-ish.
That's a good point though. This is under the assumption that a 6-step is being performed.
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By Lakshmi.Haaydee 2025-11-27 02:15:40
We do use a 6 step but its different from the one you listed. Our 6 step is from the Velner clear video
Water - Blizzard - Nocto - Lumino - Stone - Amorphic Spikes.
By Felgarr 2025-11-30 01:51:02
Our group that does super charge runs on Saturdays attempted MBoze and I was ML50 Beastmaster. The first attempt to P.Ooze MBoze went off just fine. I had to use Familiar and Unleash, but it landed after 2-3 Ooze's with the following set. (It was Firesday if that matters). Here's the set I used:
ItemSet 401333
Ambu cape is: Eva/MEva+20 Pet:(M.Acc/M.dmg+20 M.Acc+10 PDT-10 Regen+10).
However, on our next entrance into Gaol, it didn't land through multiple Ooze attempts in that 15 minute time-span. I used the above set with Unleash, then Familiar with no luck. Our RDM offered Frazzle 3 as well with no luck either.
With 2 minutes remaining, I tried the above set in a hail-mary attempt. I modified my set with Agwu's Axe (R0) and Hesperiidae (R30). My thinking was: "Maybe I need Pet: All Attr+30 to close the gap?" (but yes, Pet: Magic Accuracy-5 in comparison). In all of the attempts, I was engaged with my Pet, so Smite (Pet Magic Accuracy+50 was in the works here. I also used Rolanberry Daifuku for an additional Pet: Magic Accuracy+75.
...BUT it still would not land! Can anyone offer any insight?
I would like to focus on the MBoze fight without RUN if needed, but if it matters, we were attempting an MBoze > Ngai > Kalunga super-charge run. (We were reserving RUN/SCH/WAR for Kalunga to do Reverberation+Hydohelix II, which needs WAR's Tomahawk SDT to land effectively). Here is the chart I made to break-down what is possible (I'm continuously updating it with our findings, so any help is greatly appreciated).
By Felgarr 2025-11-30 02:22:39
Doing some theory-crafting, I could replace:
Taliah Ring and C. Palug Ring for Murky and Fickblix (+17 Pet: Magic Acc)
Crep. Earring with Alabaster Earring (+5 Pet: Magic Accuracy)
HQ Rolan. Daifuku instead of NQ (+5 Pet: Magic Accuracy).
which is shown here:
ItemSet 401334
This would net me +27 Pet: Magic Accuracy, but this just feels so drastic...
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-11-30 13:26:17
Just swap the setups for kalunga and mboze. Kalunga much easier to land ooze on, and sch can helix mboze with the same setup, just wind? Not sure of element.
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By Felgarr 2025-11-30 13:34:14
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »Just swap the setups for kalunga and mboze. Kalunga much easier to land ooze on, and sch can helix mboze with the same setup, just wind? Not sure of element.
Thank you, we'll try this next event.
By Tathamet 2025-11-30 14:21:45
Ooze was always hit or miss with me for Mboze, even with stymie'd frazzle and bursting the ooze with a skillchain. Rayke+ooze would always work though.
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By Veydal1 2026-01-13 03:15:13
Running through Bumba v25 again and I wanted to see if maybe I missed something, but there has to be a DT reset taking place midfight. The damage we see doesn't add up otherwise if the DT never resets. Wonder if it has something to do with Bumba's 2-hour timing?
For example, dealing 75k > 50k > 75k > 50k (Kaustas 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 using the same exact buffs / debuffs)
Now those numbers aren't exact, but you get the idea. Mid 70s to mid 50s but then back up to mid 70s? Then drops again to mid 50s. This seems fairly consistent as well. This is with tossing in Geo Helix IIs after each Kaustra.
Any thoughts? Someone with a better understanding of how the DT effect works want to chime in?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-01-13 03:53:54
I see that pattern sometimes, but not at all consistently. Here are all of the numbers I wrote down in our discord:
92, 66, 73, 66
97, 86, 75, 67
90, 82, 60, 40
96, 86, 60, 72
It's probably lacking some debuff or JA for some of the weaker ones. Rayke, gambit, enlightenment, int potion, impact wearing off, etc.
By Vishwambhari 2026-01-13 04:16:12
To add more to the mystery, below a post of one of the first wins(2023) where kaustra dmg went up after a lux tenebrae tenebrae rayke.
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »We beat bumba just now, probably took about 25 tries combined, about 5 tries for me. Misc might post something.
The one thing i'll edit in was our party comp:
1st ki: was THF DRG* WAR BRD SMN WHM this took it to 66% on the winning run, we were aiming for 63% but never reached it with this setup/people. I think there was an iteration that took it to 61% but i was n;t there and no idea what the 6th job was (might have been bst)
2nd ki: SCH RDM GEO COR RUN BLU
more edits: right when we zone din on 2nd KI our sch crashed so we lsot 3 mins there.
No MAB MAC aura, and we needed 3 wildcards lol. 7 secs left on clock on 2nd KI. Kaustras were 60kish, only 1 hit over 70k. Ironically, it wss the las tone that hit the highest iirc. That Last kaustra had a derp by me and was 1 lux 2 tenebrae on the rayke. Not sure if it was related or not for why DMG went up >.>. Extremely weird.
All of the Kaustras (5 total and 3 Tabula other than the last one had 3/3 Gambit rayke which were put on after impact landed, rayke after nocto landed but before kaustra cast)
It was stressfull as *** the last few mins since Kaustras wrere lower than usual and expected. I think me stealing invincible with larceny on the first KI pushed us over the top lol.
It's 90% R.N.G. 10% SCH uberness. GL
Multiple edits: kaustra numbers: 74895, 68555, 57766, 53667, 65712 (lux x1, tenebrae x2 rayke on the last kaustra)
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By Fenrir.Ahlen 2026-01-13 04:24:35
Kaustra and helix do not get the magic burst bonus for resist ranks so rayke only helps for the resist checks on them. Reasons you are seeing second Kaustra lower is likely impact fell off the timing can be difficult. But there are many factors that can cause it besides that such as blu didnt searing tempest or tearing gust, no reset for gambit or enlighten, actual resist, many more causes.
There was a theory if you proc him some of the dt is removed but I haven't seen proof or testing for this.
By Taint 2026-01-13 07:53:08
We had similar numbers until we fixed our Impact timing.
First Impact we went early in the SC. 2nd late in the SC. Third early, 4th late. Fixed our issues of impact falling off.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-01-13 08:06:07
We had similar numbers until we fixed our Impact timing.
First Impact we went early in the SC. 2nd late in the SC. Third early, 4th late. Fixed our issues of impact falling off.
On this note: Impact lasts 3 minutes (if unresisted). If you cast it in a macc set and it lands without any resist (I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally resist, since the resist could make it MUCH longer) then it will last for most of, but not the entirety, of your TR (which lasts 3.5 minutes).
Keeping this in mind, it's important to either:
Start the Impact very early so that it wears off (and can be recast) during/before the second SC
Cast the Impact in the middle of the SC (making sure that it doesn't MB) so that is lasts through the second SC
It's quite finnicky and we've had a LOT of issues with Impact wearing off in the middle of the second SC.
Of course this all applies the exact same way to the 3rd/4th SCs.
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By Lakshmi.Haaydee 2026-01-16 08:57:35
Thank you to everyone who provided tips and inputs on how to approach the Bumba V25 fight and helped troubleshoot our runs. We were finally able to beat the mob last week but have been busy so haven't been able to type out impressions.
We spent about 10-15 runs over 3 weeks before we realized we had issues with the multi-boxed GEO and then people were busy over break so that contributed to why it took so long.
As noticed by the group above, we believe our issues were due to badly managed impact durations and confusion on when it actually wore. Once we adjusted impact cast times it only took 2-3 WC success runs to get the win even though we still had some resist issues. I have logs of the fights if anyone wants to take a closer look to troubleshoot but my group is satisfied for the time being as we don't expect to repeat it anytime soon.
On a slightly related note, I do want to bring up one last niche "tip"" we found that I had never heard of regarding WC manipulation via Snake Eye.
Apparently if you have a V or VI roll that is eligible for double up and have full 5/5 Snake Eye merits you can SE before the WC for a 50% chance of reset (slightly higher than the 44% of normal WC). So basically, toss up a roll and if you can get it to V or VI then while it's still eligible for double up, you use Snake Eye and then WC (do not double up). If you had a V, you will roll either a I or a VI; if you had a VI, you will roll either a 1 or a V. If your roll was not V/VI then you WC as per normal (ie do not Snake Eye) and still have your 44%ish chance of reset (assuming you have boots ofc). Since I had never heard of this before I did test it and in limited tests it held up. Again, its VERY niche and may not be practical elsewhere due to the specific merit structure it requires (especially on Bumba where you probably want 5/5 RD as well) but just bringing it up incase its new information to anyone else.
By Veydal1 2026-01-20 12:22:42
Congrats!
That's really interesting about the effect on Wild Card by Snake Eye. Is this assuming Relic Feet? Would be huge if Relic Feet increased this further...
By Genoxd 2026-01-20 14:49:36
Congrats!
That's really interesting about the effect on Wild Card by Snake Eye. Is this assuming Relic Feet? Would be huge if Relic Feet increased this further...
It's independent of relic feet. It's detailed on the JP wiki apparently, but feet do nothing in this situation. When the stars align and you can snake eye for WC the only 2 valid options are 1 or 5/6 depending. Snake eye will force/override it with a 50% chance of 5 or 6 else it will always be a 1 which doesn't matter for bumba.
Also to add another note, I believe our winning run the SCH also skipped Helix on the first MB since they were curious if the helix ticks also count towards the MDT reduction. It seemed like it did count because that run subsequent Kaustra MBs were significantly higher dmg.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-02-19 02:32:42
So yesterday after getting a friend two T1 V25 kills he was missing, we decided last min to attempt Marmorkrebs V25 for him.
I did it for myself years ago, with a PUG I led while I was on RDM, so my memory wasn't exactly fresh.
Yesterday I was on RUN and everything went fine for a while. Damage done on him was low but the damage received on myself was never really that dangerous.
Until at <40% HP a Sundering Snip hit me for over 3,7k and of course it killed me.
Now granted at that point I had lowered my attention, so clearly there's something I forgot to use Panacea on, something I didn't notice. The question is: what?
Sundering Snip should deal 60% HP damage according to Wiki, and 3,7k isn't 60% of my hp.
I had my standard tanking gear, Miso Ramen+1 up, Shell5 was up.
I THINK (but I'm not 100% sure) 3x Sulpor Valiance was up.
I was using Panacea on HP Down, I think I got most of them but I might have still had it up when Sundering Snip hit me.
Still that doesn't explain 3.7k damage received.
Please someone allow me to understand what I missed D:
I seemed to recall it had a dangerous MDB down move which you had to Panacea ASAP, but there's no mention of it on the wiki and still, reducing MDB shouldn't affect a move that is meant to do a fixed % of your HP as damage.
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By Asura.Hya 2026-02-19 06:35:51
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Marmorkrebs
Quote: Danger: Riptide Eupnea's Max HP Down followed by Sundering Snip is a guaranteed K.O on your tank if the Max HP Down is not removed in time.
By Dodik 2026-02-19 06:38:31
Run is a bad tank for that fight. The double combo will get you eventually. Aegis Pld has no issue.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-02-19 06:48:35
But then this means the info on BG wiki is wrong.
Sundering Snip is reported as doing 60% max HP (I assume it considers the "original" HP value of course, not the one reduced after the debuff you get from Riptide Eupnea) is wrong info.
I got hit for 3,7k by Sundering Snip.
3,7k is NOT 60% of my HP.
It means that move works in a different way.
I seem to recall there was a move giving you MDB down debuff, but I see no mention of it on BGwiki.
If there's a move like that AND Sundering Snip hit me while I had that debuff AND my Valiance hat just wore off, then I guess this could explain it?
Granted I was still wearing 50% DT so it means that 3,7k was actually a 7,4k...
@Dodik
I did this fight for myself aeons ago, I don't remember if we used RUN or PLD.
I seem to recall we used RUN because of Gambit/Rayke to avoid timing out but I could be wrong.
RUN is also nice to extend Light into double Light with Dimidiation but I guess PLD can do the same with CDC.
By Dodik 2026-02-19 07:35:04
The same move that gives -hp down gives -mdb. Without aegis' magic dmg reduction it's an almost guaranteed one shot regardless of hp.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-02-19 07:37:01
I've fought it a bunch and had the same issues with randomly getting unlucky with back to back TP mobs etc. Could be MDB down aura, could be his autos giving you MDB down, or some other issue.
Also: the damage might START at 60% of your max HP and scale up with debuffs.
I agree, I prefer PLD on this fight, and yeah both tanks have easy SC options. RUN is faster, PLD is safer. Neither is immune to the BS, gotta be careful
By Dodik 2026-02-19 08:24:11
Iirc it was autos that give -mdb not the def down move. Meaning -mdb cannot be reliably taken off.
I did the v25 fight for marmor as run. Worst v25 to tank as run including t3s.
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By Asura.Hya 2026-02-19 10:42:12
But then this means the info on BG wiki is wrong. I would call it incomplete, not wrong. As Maletaru said, it could start at 60% and scale with some other unknown factor. It could be similar to Ngai's Tidal Guillotine where if your remaining HP% after the TP move is below a certain threshold, it kills you instead. What we do know, and is documented both on the page and in the Testimonials, is that the combination of debuffs (MDB down, Max HP down, probably even MEva down from Aura, Dispelled Shell V, Encumbered in a bad set) and Sundering Snip reliably kills Rune Fencers.
I have done this fight many times; sometimes the Rune Fencer dies to every Snip, others only the occasional Snip, once they did not die at all. I have never seen Paladin die in this fight. Your group has to decide if they absolutely need the Rayke/Gambit to clear (likely meaning your nuking output is poor, I have seen BLM solo nuke this to win) and are willing to adjust the strategy to manage that risk, or if they want to play it safer with Paladin and accept the fight will be slightly slower. For what it's worth, since you are bringing Red Mage anyways, Marmorkrebs is susceptible to Gravity/Bind, so even in the event the Rune Fencer dies, your group can still kite/Burst until hate is reestablished.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-02-19 10:48:16
Just another testimony that there's some other factor besides removing after Riptide Eupnea. I was using panacea immediately on any TP-inflicted debuff and still got one shot with nothing obvious in log when I tried with RUN tank. Add effect or aura seem like solid guesses.
By Felgarr 2026-02-19 12:54:13
Thank you to everyone who provided tips and inputs on how to approach the Bumba V25 fight and helped troubleshoot our runs. We were finally able to beat the mob last week but have been busy so haven't been able to type out impressions.
We spent about 10-15 runs over 3 weeks before we realized we had issues with the multi-boxed GEO and then people were busy over break so that contributed to why it took so long.
As noticed by the group above, we believe our issues were due to badly managed impact durations and confusion on when it actually wore. Once we adjusted impact cast times it only took 2-3 WC success runs to get the win even though we still had some resist issues. I have logs of the fights if anyone wants to take a closer look to troubleshoot but my group is satisfied for the time being as we don't expect to repeat it anytime soon.
On a slightly related note, I do want to bring up one last niche "tip"" we found that I had never heard of regarding WC manipulation via Snake Eye.
Apparently if you have a V or VI roll that is eligible for double up and have full 5/5 Snake Eye merits you can SE before the WC for a 50% chance of reset (slightly higher than the 44% of normal WC). So basically, toss up a roll and if you can get it to V or VI then while it's still eligible for double up, you use Snake Eye and then WC (do not double up). If you had a V, you will roll either a I or a VI; if you had a VI, you will roll either a 1 or a V. If your roll was not V/VI then you WC as per normal (ie do not Snake Eye) and still have your 44%ish chance of reset (assuming you have boots ofc). Since I had never heard of this before I did test it and in limited tests it held up. Again, its VERY niche and may not be practical elsewhere due to the specific merit structure it requires (especially on Bumba where you probably want 5/5 RD as well) but just bringing it up incase its new information to anyone else.
Congratulations on your Bumba v25 win! That's quite an accomplishment!
However, your description of 5/5 Snake Eye Merits, definitely applies to ordinary rolls with a 5 or 6, having a 50% of getting 11. If what you say is true, that your snake eye can effect Wild Card in this scenario, then this sounds very much like Bug Territory (unintended side-effect).
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-02-19 13:13:49
50% seems wrong. The logical way for it to work is that the roll calculation is the same for wild card and normal double-up.
So, if snake eye 'procs' to try to give you an auto-XI, you would get the difference between your roll and XI as your wild card result. That makes sense: a 5 would give you a 6 WC and vice versa.
However, unless wiki is wrong, the first merit doesn't count toward chance at auto-XI. Wouldn't that mean it only gives a 40% chance of a 5/6, which is worse than the base rate of 4/9?
Am I missing something?
By Felgarr 2026-02-19 13:29:57
50% seems wrong. The logical way for it to work is that the roll calculation is the same for wild card and normal double-up.
So, if snake eye 'procs' to try to give you an auto-XI, you would get the difference between your roll and XI as your wild card result. That makes sense: a 5 would give you a 6 WC and vice versa.
However, unless wiki is wrong, the first merit doesn't count toward chance at auto-XI. Wouldn't that mean it only gives a 40% chance of a 5/6, which is worse than the base rate of 4/9?
Am I missing something?
No, you're right. It's 40% chance of 11 for rolls 5-9 at 5/5 Snake Eye merit.
I'm just surprised this works with Wild Card, allegedly. (I have no proof and just heard about this today).
Also, tangent: Any assertion of 50% effects with Snake Eye, probably relates to the JA recast being set to 0, with 5/5 merits and relic armor augments (gants? I forget)
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-02-19 13:31:15
Seems relatively easy to confirm that you only get 1 or the desired outcome with 20 or so WCs. But, the difference between 40% and 50% is pretty hard to tell and if it's 40%.. it's not helpful.
By Genoxd 2026-02-19 13:35:45
Here's where we got the info from: https://strikeret.hatenablog.com/entry/2024/07/11/000034
And if you go on the JP wiki it backs this as well. I did a very small sample size test but it was around 50% and works as stated in the blog. It's a 1 or a reset, never got any other numbers
Hmmm...
Initial Speculations:
Looks like they took components of Walk of Echoes (setting), and Elemental Circles and brought it together.
They must of learned new ideas through the Lilith HTBF and how they can play with those elemental fetters to create unique battlefield environment and apply further stress with them..
Instead of Abyssea, this may be a Walk of Echoes 3.0? Anything iLvl 140+ .. We are ready!
Keep this thread clean, hoping to post critical details and discuss strategies.. Eventually I will create a Node on this with full details.. We can then update BG-Wiki with information that we gather..
Those of you who play on Nasomi.. Please don't post on here, you have a Fafnir to camp.. so get back to work.. This is isn't Bubbly Bernie version 3.0. He will be OG 1.0 forever on Nasomi.. ^_^
Sorry about the delay on updating this as I have been slammed with a lot of work since COVID-19 defense ramp up procedures at my hospital facility.
I have barely had time to update and barely any time to explore this content myself. I appreciate everyone's work so far. I will update this OP Thread with some resources and information that people have found across all servers including videos and screenshots..
Keeping this as a basic vital post highlight source so as new posts with vital information emerges I will just pin it here so it is all in one space and no need to jump around different pages..
To Begin.. The Basic Release Info from SE:
Some First Initial Basic Discoveries:
looks like you enter through Rabao
And you have 30 min to kill a bunch of trash mobs. Probably a boss at the end too.
More Initial Entry Discoveries Pinned:
About to enter Odyssey for the first time.
I'll report back. Setup is PUP, COR, BLU x2, SMN, RDM
Ok, it's looking like they made this content specifically to prevent BLUs from cleaving through this content.
Only main target took full damage. Surrounding targets took 90% reduced damage (main targeet 15k, all others 500 or less)
All mobs can be fully enfeebled (Sleep, Silence, Slow, Para) but standard rules apply for mob types (we saw Skeletons, couldn't Blind them)
I can very easily see a RUN or PLD tank running in and aggroing the group of mobs, with a BRD sleeping them all. 2 DDs kill one by one with proper support. SMN Bloodpacts were doing full damage on single mobs (same rules for BLU applied for SMN when we tried Thunderspark for lulz)
At the end, we found a group of mobs (bats) with a Fetter and a group of untargetable Yagudo. We cleared the bats, then killed the Fetter. Once the Fetter is killed, the Yagudo become targetable. For killing all of the Yagudo, you get 10 Izzat.
In total, we farmed 20 Izzat. We'll try using them tomorrow on boxes, maybe even spawn an NM. After we killed the fetter, a conflux spawned that gave us the opportunity to spawn a monster for 10 Izzat. We were low on time, so we just chose to exit.
Player with Trusts.. First Experience Testimonies:
Went in with trusts. Was able to 1 shot most things with leaden.
Yield: 31 scales and 3 scale boxes (from the chest).
Edit: Chests gave 11, 13 and 16.
More Vital Data Testimonies Discovered:
Random info:
-Killing trash gave izzat and lustreless scales
-Using 10 izzat to pop chest gave 2 scales and a box
-Killing fetter made untargetable yagudo killable, giving 10 izzat killing them all
-Popping NM with 10 izzat from ethereal junction spawned a red morbol that did blood weapon and dropped 2 boxes of scales
-Not sure what items you need to trade to junction to spawn monsters
-Was unable to use the thing at the start after killing fetter/yagudos/morbol, may have to kill all trash? I looked around and missed a pack, timed out before I could kill them all
-Moogle keeps track of trash killed, physis, and chests, and the power of your alter egos while in odyssey (Moogle Mastery)
More Testimonials and Discoveries..
Does anyone know what is needed to clear the RoE for Sheol A?
You need to run (can do on sneak/invi, only trasnparent mobs are true sight/sound) to last floor (A7) using confluxes. On last floor there is Otherworldly Vortex mentioned in RoE quest. You need to touch it (it lets you leave Odyssey too) to complete the quest. Credit for that info goes to Mischief from Bahamut. Here is a video of my first experience with Odyssey:
YouTube Video Placeholder Tried exploring, found more information
- I didn't realize there was a conflux on each floor to move up
- Each floor increases in mob level, capping at 131, and general nastiness of monster family (manticores, giants I remember on last floor)
- Translocators bring you down to previous levels, so the first floor one doesn't work until you find the higher level ones
- One character got stuck on a floor and couldn't move up, nor did they get the RoE objective upon someone else reaching the top
So for soloers, seems like it's best to stick to lower level floor to farm scales, more experienced parties can move up to desired difficulty for more scales. First time in would be best just getting the RoE objective and unlocking translocators.
Initial Video Detailing Climb to 7th floor for easy RoE Completion for Augment Unlock on Gear:
YouTube Video Placeholder
More Info about Moglophone KI's:
Anyways did a solo run this morning and got about 100 scales from just killing trash in first floor. Wondering what others are getting from parting up vs solo.
edit: Also can you hold one Moglophone KI on you, and then have the moogle hold one?
I was wondering this too. I picked up my KI last night and am holding it until later today and going to see if I can run two times in a row.
You can. I used my ki after few hours yesterday and when I checked moogle timer was at 15h, so it was going down while I had KI on me.
More Testimonial Higlights:
Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Maybe Mischief will post about it, he figured it out on his mule. I'll try and post what i know, but it seems like we skip everything and just kill the fetters, mobs around the fetters, and sometimes the UNM near the fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »and if u get to the final thing upstairs, personal chest for everyone. Not sure if someone said it already, but you CAN store a KI. So only need to farm every 2 days! I am confused on how people move up using sneak and invisible, in this run I explored everything, vortexes just said "you can't use this yet", or let me summon an NM but never move somewhere else, even after i killed the fetter, all the guards, the NM, opened one chest, and killed about 90% of all the mobs. If anybody can spot where in this video I should have been able to "move up" it would really help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i9GhE5nO3I
thanks At the mandies in your run. Just hug left wall and you'll find it. It took me a while to find the first flux as well, but the rest were less "hidden". A video was posted a couple pages ago showing the route.
YouTube Video Placeholder Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »vortexes just said "you can't use this yet" Need to click Shimmering lights for access to some portals or not have aggro iirc. I may be wrong though Bahamut.Lexouritis said: » It rewarded me again with a box + 50k gil.
did u kill a fetter? Seems like 50k per Fetter and 1 box per fetter (per character). The big Box from RoE seems to be just 1 time thing. The smaller boxes seem to be fetter based?
Killing all 4 fetters netted us about ~70 scales per run per person after touching otherworldy vortex.
Edit: With RoE quest being completed in a run, was more like 110-130. So how many scales is it per upgrade? Didn’t see on Bg-wiki and don’t feel like shifting through posts on here. Should be just under 12 stacks to max. Based on scales only being worth 5rp instead of 10 :/ Clip to the top and nab the box, in and out, 5 minute adventure.
For realsies? SE let content like that out after the mass-ban clipping/duping-alex adventures get onto the live server? Thought they learned their lesson since the AMAN trove boxes can't be scouted via Hex IDs. The box he means is the one from completing the RoE once. You can walk to it in 6-7 mins without speed hacks anyway. The big deal about completing the RoE is you can start augmenting your gear at that point. Well if dude already finished a piece few days after update, there isnt much time gate here it seems.
Probably just the appetitizer was released (im on a work trip, cant "enjoy" the new content till weekend...)
He finished because he bought scales or have legion of mules. Regular player with 1 account will need realistically around 10-14 days for one piece farming daily. Traded 5 Emperor arthro shells to vortex (dunno how many it took from inventory, might have only taken 1 of the 5). Summoned Brachys, a crab that had a high ass counter rate and instantly killed me on my thf in one attack round. 500+ damage counters with no DT set. Likely not advisable to spawn mobs solo with trusts. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
~edited phrasing
So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill featers and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 featers solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »
Personal box at the end when touching Otherworldy Vortex for each FETTER you kill, for all party members. If u kill all 4 fetters AND EVERYTHING around them it seems you will get 4 boxes.
~edited phrasing
So looks like if you solo, go for trash and farm with th4+ and for group you kill fetters and go touch otherwordly.
Unless maybe kill 2 fetters solo and go to the top? You could open 2 chests that way and get 2 boxes. So in theory maybe even get 4 chests and some scales from farming.
I'm not sure if you need to just kill the fetters or the fetters + all the semi-invisible beastmen around the fetters.
It's possible to kill a fetter without aggro from the semi invisible beastmen that are sight aggro like Yagudo and Orcs. I'm assuming Quadav will sound aggro which makes them easier to gather in a group.
On the first day, when I duo'd with my cousin on RUN and me on COR with a THF4 set, we killed 1 fetter but stopped killing the semi-invisible beastmen because they were not dropping anything. Not all of the beastmen aggro'd. Only the Yagudo beastmen that were in sight of us or each other aggro'd us. Care needs to be taken by support in this case as support will get aggro'd if they rush in too early before the tank has claim on everything. These mobs hit very hard.
Definitely go in with at least th4 if solo farming just trash mobs.
Go in with a full, balanced party to maximize drops from fetters. The fetters are easy to kill. The beastmen hit hard and have a little more hp than common trash mobs. Helps to sleep them too as they can easily overwhelm even the toughest of tanks. Me and a group of peeps went in yesterday, to do some testing.
Killing a fetter + beastman group rewards 10 izzat, no special drops were seen, we did not have a thief, just a range using bounty shot.
Gonna test farm some nms tonight. i tried to spawn 1 today with my alt using unity items, turns out 1 is not enough. My second run of this is probably the best I can do.
Went in, killed all normal monsters, Feters and Beastmen, killed all of the Yaguado. I had 20 Izzat, spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob that died in a 4 step SC. This NM used Blood WEapon, the NM I tried yesterday used 100 fists and rek'd me.
I got 90 Izzat from Monsters and 22 from the 2 boxes that I got from NM and a chest I used them on. The only thing I didn't do on Floor 1 was spawn the Junction that said "Item can be used to pop something here" I had 3 Sarama Hides, 2 Thuban Things and neither worked, nor did a combination of them work.
All of my drops were done with TH2 from Gear. Few unanswered questions:
How is the augmentation to Trust power in Odyssey earned? I believe the requirement must be more than simply killing sets of trash mobs and making it to the otherworldly at the end.
Rewards upon reaching end were:
360k gil from a group that killed everything on first floor, 2 NM's popped.
100k gil for solo killing 2 groups (4 izzat) worth of scrubs and reaching end.
On another run I also got 100k gil for solo killing more scrubs (4 sets I think. Seems like the NMs from either spawn point will be one of the 119/122 unity NMs with similar mechanics, but not exactly the same as my morbol didn't go through 3 stages and only did blood weapon. May be a good ideal to either focus on repeatedly killing one to raise its kill count for the moogle or killing all of them at least once. Can't wait for Pandemonium Warden v3 in the future lol Yep. Surprised the hell out of us.
But as I said I was getting 100k for just clearing a couple of easy rooms and heading for the exit solo for the RoE.
Thinking about it, we did a bit more than the first floor full clear on that run, did a second fetter and agon mobs and popped another NM at least. spawn a Unity NM Which was a Sporebat type mob
What method did you use to spawn this nm?
So there seems to be 2 spawn methods, Unity Item (I think 5 minimum) or Izzat once you have killed a fetter.
In terms of the invisible mobs I don't know if its a coincidence or not but every time they have aggro'd they go after my GEO and no other character. Dunno if the bubble is causing something funky to happen.
It should be possible, to kill fetters on all floors + escape as low as 3 man, I cleared everything in my run and had about 3 minutes to spare but a lot of it was goofing about looking at chests etc. I'd say 4 man would be the most optimal though as you can't really AOE.
Only flaw would be is that the fetters on floors seem to be placed randomly so you could get screwed over on travel times but imagine if you wanted to eat some taco's and take that risk you could and do it no probs. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.) Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »My findings thus far:
As stated multiples times already here, you can sneak/invisible to maneuver around the mobs here. However..
The invisible mobs appear true sight and/or sound, so you have to be cautious of them.
Appears that killing fetters gives personal loot. We all got a box.
You can solo for the RoE if you want following the guidlines above.
Competing RoE gives you 1 large box.
Clear is NOT party wide and each person must touch it individually for credit. (Also recieved 60k gil, we cleared 1 fetter/quadavs, and the mob family near it)
Didn't notice until after fetter and invisible mobs were dead, but one or the other gave 10 izzat.
Have tried a few different unity mats for unm 119/122 and traded 5 to pop a NM. NM that spawned was of the same mob family as items traded. Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull and kill regular mobs, until you see opportunity where nothing is close to fetter (there is always a moment when there is max 1 mob close to it at some point). Kill fetter fast (It's easy to kill. One good 2 step SC will kill it), then kill remaining mobs. I wouldn't try to aggro more than few mobs in general when solo or duoboxing, especially if you dont have Malignance set on COR. Something of note to add was that our rng and cor were doing 0 dmg to the fetter from distance and had to move much closer to do any damage. This may relate to how aoe does much reduced damage. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III. Max gil reward is higher than we thought, just got 495k from today's run.
Btw force popping nm's uses a single UNM mat, not 5. And they cannot be reused within the same run. Spawning NM appears to be unrelated to what you use to pop.
So far NM's we faced: Tipuli(fly),Aegupius,harpe(weapon),leucippe and physis (morbol).
Moogle mastery ranks up as you kill stuff, @287 kills, 8x NM and 2 chests we at Mastery III.
Do you need to touch the flux on the top floor to get the gil? Or when does the gil actually get distributed to you? Yes, you have to leave personally to get it, and as always if other party members are fighting its locked out. My second run experience soloing on COR with trusts:
Leaden Salute all the things
Tact/Sam with august, ygnas, monb, star sybill, koru
Killed everything on floor 1 and 4 groups on floor 2
30 izzat but could only find 2 chests to open
both chests only dropped 1 box each so was a little unlucky
TH4
Ended up with 135 scales. Could have been alot higher if I found a third chest and if the chests dropped more than 1 box each.
(I also got a message saying 'moogle magic II' when I killed a regular enemy. Must be to do with the total amount of things killed.)
Tonight ill be going in with my COR GEO duo. How do you do the fetters? Kill the surrounding mobs then attack the fetter while trusts keep you alive with invisible beastmen smacking you? Then the beastmen?
Pull/kill regular mobs with ranged attack. Run in to fetter with max 1 or 2 shadows aggro. Kill fetter > kill the rest. Just look out what you aggro. Aggroing BLM mob that stand close to middle will probably result in mass link eventually. Regular mobs dont link at all, but transparent mobs (before and after killing fetter) do. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Each flux takes you to a higher floor. There are 7 floors with the 7th floors flux being the exit and the RoE objective. Not sure if it was mentioned, but looks like you can't pop the same NM twice from UNM mats in the same run. Popped once on first floor, and later on the 4th floor it gave a message saying we couldn't pop the same NM again. Sharing Shamgi's notes posted in the BST forum for relevant details:
Ok, just went into an Odyssey and discovered some things:
1. You can charm things in there. Things seemed to be fairly simple to charm, and Charm+ gear meant that my dhalmel stayed charmed 15+ minutes.
2.Charmed pets seem to be quite strong. Beyond the normal HP, they seemed to have fairly high damage, hitting other mobs in their own pack for 4-600 a swing, with crits as high as 900. My Dhalmel once used Berserk and those numbers got pretty big, same with their Sound Wave move. My record was a crit for 1500 or so. This is with NQ food and no other pet related buffs. I had one crawler end up at 74% when it killed another crawler in the pack, likely benefiting from all the DA and Haste.
3. Pets seem quite effective at killing the Halos. They hit hard already, but notably, they aggro nothing, not even the Beastmen around the Halos when doing so. The Halo produces a damaging AOE every couple of seconds that was hitting for 200 or so, but the pet, with it's 40k+ HP, doesn't care at all. Indeed, I left the pet to it's own devices and killed other packs with trusts while it worked the halo down itself, which actually seemed quite nice. When it died, the Orcs around it didn't aggro, so it was easy to pull them one by one, as they don't link either.
4. Mob spawns are random, which can hurt this strat, but from two runs a majority of the packs seem charmable, and many of them are often pretty powerful. Given the strat above, I feel like a monk style pet would be best here.
Overall, I'm super interested in trying this with a full group where you can use the pet to deal with adds while you work on a pack yourself and to safely kill Halos while you clear other things.
One issue was Sic, the recast was way worse than I remembered, and my lua isn't set up at all to deal with it. My best guess is to just set up my gearswap to always produce a physical damage set for Sic and then just use pets who focus physical damage with their TP moves. If it's a buff move, then no big deal, if it's physical then it's the right set. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far). Do not link with the Fetter though, found this out by trying to range attack the fetter down, only to realize the fetter is immune to auto-range attacks. They do link, my experience has been all sight linking though (fought orcs and yags so far).
Well its kinda expected. Orc, Yagudo and Goblins are all sight aggro/link. Quadavs are sound aggro/link and it's how they are in Odyssey too. They arent immune to ranged attacks you just need to be stood in the fetter to do damage.
So not immune to ranged attacks, but immune to any attacks from a range. XD As with all farming things it's more efficient to solo, if the kill speed is high, like 119 content. 6 solos have 6x more chances for boxes.
Luck's definitely a factor; and yeah I think solo probably is best.
I think a lot of it has to do with people finding each other, people needing to sneak/invis themselves, and having to stagger the flux (so it doesn't glitch out). Was a lot of wasted time there.
Was just curious if other groups were experiencing it as well. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them. As group you are suppose to kill Fetter at floor 1,3,5 and 7 and run to otherworldy vortex at the end. You should get 4 PERSONAL box from otherworldy that way and I think one more personal box from killing beastman kings at floor 7 (they are around Fetter there).
So thats 5 personal chests
At least 40 Izzat to open chests
Probably at least 40 single scales from killing trash around fetters if you take at least TH4 with you.
Small boxes are on avg around 13 scales?
So probably around 70-80 scales at least per person, maybe more if you have time to farm more.
Very good geared solo player on specific job like COR, can get more with luck, but it might be other bonuses from killing fetters and NMs that we might dont know about. Went in as Pup/Whm. Killed 3 Fetters, champion NM on floor 7 after fetter, and a few other random mobs using automaton only.
Literally no drops + exit only gave me 5k gil.
I wonder if you need to take an action on the fetters or something yourself before you can get drops or credit for killing them.
No, you need to kill Fetter AND beastman mobs around it to get credit for personal box at the end and 10 Izzat. I assume you killed only Fetters. Bahamut.Lexouritis said: »THF can pick the locks/chests in odyssey, in case no one mentioned, or knows about it yet. However some times mimic will pop out. Unsure how hard they are, as it opens with deathtrap, and his mule has sparks gear (and it got one shot). Credit goes to mischief
"Either gave a 'however it has no effect' message and consumed the tool, opened the chest, or a mimic popped out" I made a quick map of Odyssey to make ease to hit the fluxes.
Etheral Junctions, Fetters and camps change apparently random.
EDIT: all maps have North heading the upper border.
Aegypius NM:
Bird
Popped using 5 Abyssdiver feathers
Uses Broadside Barrage and Damnation Dive
Uses Perfect Dodge at low HP and gains an Encumbrance aura that stays for the rest of the fight Carbuncle.Papesse said: »Beware of the Treant NM Ptelea and its dangerous Leafstorm AoE. Leafstorm is hybrid wind based. It can crit, miss, be absorbed by shadows and Elemental Sforzo. One For All, Gelus Valiance and Baraero substantially reduce damage. As far as getting these telepoints, mentioned on BGwiki's Odyssey page that you're supposed to be able to travel between to get to further levels of Odyssey, does anyone have any info on the requirements to gain access to these? Do you have to kill all of the fetters to go up a floor? Also, has anyone tried going in with a group of six and then disbanding and everyone using their own trusts to expediate the process of both killing enemies on every floor, taking care of all the fetters on a floor and then popping the nm's so that you might progress to these tele-points if those happened to be the requirements? I know some players might have found that they can farm higher amounts of the Lustreless Scales solo rather than teaming up but if you go in with 6 and then make you're own parties with trusts.. and there are multiple telepoints with up to say 15 sets of mobs and fetters then the possibility of having a high return still might be worth it. Another thing i noticed maybe means nothing but i saw some pixels floating out of nowhere that seemed like a mobs name. Maybe a glitch? Or the others maps? Or a random mob?
 I'm sure people regularly killing fluxes/beastmen already knew this, but AoEs that would have hit the untargettable/invisible beastmen will still generate enmity on them, so people should watch for that if they're sleepgaing or horde lullabying fodder. We spawned an NM in today's run.
Brachys: Crab NM (PLD/MNK)
Had a pretty decent (25-30%) Counter rate. Bubble Curtain's Shell effect reduced enspell (RDM with Crocea Mors) dmg to 0 unless it was dispelled. Used Invincible at 25%. Easily landed enfeebles (Slow, Para, Blind, Frazzle, Distract) Pretty easy fight overall.
It was spawned using 10 Izzat after we killed Fetter + Beastmen mobs surrounding it. Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »I have Moogle Mastery III, not sure what's doing it. Status report has:
Nostos killed: 306
Damysus: 2
Salmandra: 2
Cynara: 1
Chests: 3
Seems I ranked up when I killed an Agon Bruiser. The augment system is “tiered”. I’m working on my alts Emeici +1.
Ranks 1-5 give +2 damage. Ranks 6-10 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc. I assume ranks 11-15 give +2 damage, +3 acc/macc, +2 crit rate.
That’s a neat way to do it, it incentivizes the more expensive ranks. Just had a bad solo experience... turns our not all popped NM's are soloable. Do not recommend popping the nm's for 10 izzat.
Got a cactus who would constantly triple attack and did 600 normal / 1200 crit per attack round. August got insta-KO then healer then myself within 7 seconds. YouTube Video Placeholder
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