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By Veydal1 2025-05-27 16:06:36
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I don't know what elements Bumba's auto attacks are, but it shouldn't be getting off any TP moves at all. So the affinity of his TP moves aren't a factor.

Definitely agree with including a Carrier Sash if the auto attacks have an element associated with them. Could be similar to Aminon, where only 1? (I think) of the auto attacks have an elemental affinity (Darkness I believe).

As an aside, I did shy away from absorb gear as it's my understanding that mobs still gain TP if their attack is absorbed.
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By Bismarck.Radec 2025-05-27 16:42:39
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Veydal1 said: »
I don't know what elements Bumba's auto attacks are...

They change over time, best to have all-element resist.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/32145/a-scholars-education-guide/100#3686290
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2025-05-27 16:48:53
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A fully powered up magic barrier is going to block ~730 hp. Do have to be careful, magic def down aura will prevent saline coat. I’ve had a few times where that aura has let a kaustra or comet through and ended the run
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-05-28 12:10:05
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Sorry if this has been asked so much
Its just a struggle to understand where I am at picking this back up

IF I get v20 clears on everything or had them and do idk up to or including v15 clear later in order order whatever is v20 done when I go to access it or does it need to be done again

In regards to progressing my ability to enter higher v fights for solo rp
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By Dodik 2025-05-28 12:55:01
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If you clear all at V20 you can enter V25 and any earlier level.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-28 12:59:33
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You have to clear:
-The monster you want to farm at prior level (clear V20 to pop V25)
-All lower tier monsters at target level (4/4 T1 V25 clear to pop T2 V25)

So, clearing all at V20 is not sufficient to unlock all for RP. You need to clear T1-T2 at V25 to do T3V25, and T3 at V25 to do BumbaV25.

The game only stores your highest clear, so if you can clear V25s without having done lower tiers you only need to fight each monster once. Of course, clearing T3-T4 V25 without any nyame will be difficult for most jobs.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-05-28 13:14:47
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Right I understand the part about clearing up to.
What I wanna understand is I have done various clears at different levels different bosses tiers etc

Is this like a bingo card type situation?

Or does all that not matter?

This is only with respect to entering at various levels not the gear aspect.

Like if I had all "v20s" cleared but nothing else.
Worked my way up to whatever was before in a sense would the v20 clears benefit me in a manner of speaking by allowing me to move on to the ones after it.

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By K123 2025-05-28 13:26:31
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Dodik said: »
If you clear all at V20 you can enter V25 and any earlier level.
This isn't true, is it? Or the wording is confusing.

If you clear everything at V20 you can enter T1 at V25, but you cannot enter T2 V25 until all T1 are beaten at V25, and cannot enter T3 V25 until all T2 (hence all T1 already beaten) are beaten at V25, and cannot enter T4 (Bumba) V25 until all T3 (hence all T2+T1 already beaten) are beaten at V25.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-28 13:34:28
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No. Beating V20 unlocks access to V25. If what I think Dodik is saying in that you've been "all" on V20, that would include all atonements. So he can enter v25 in tier 1-4. He doesn't require a v25 clear on 1 to access v25 on 2 so on and so forth. His V20 clears on 1 gives him access to V25 in 1. His V20 clears on 2 give him access to V25 in 2. Repeat for 3&4
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-05-28 13:38:34
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I guess it would be better to ask this to demonstrate my misunderstandings

Do I need to beat everything before v20 if I have all v20 clears? All tiers for the sake of the question. T1,2,3
This would be because someone with access took me in.
Would I be free then to enter v20 at my leisure.

Or do i need to beat V5 v10 v15 before I can do this
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By K123 2025-05-28 13:40:26
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
He doesn't require a v25 clear on 1 to access v25 on 2 so on and so forth. His V20 clears on 1 gives him access to V25 in 1. His V20 clears on 2 give him access to V25 in 2. Repeat for 3&4
I don't believe this is right, I tested it myself when doing them just like 2 years ago.

I don't think you can enter T2 V25 just because you have T1+T2 all done at V20. You must have all T1 done at V25. You can even test this with Bumba easily, I cannot enter Bumba V25 even though I have all T1+T2+T3 at V20.
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By Dodik 2025-05-28 13:42:00
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Clearing all atonements at a level gives you access to all previous levels.

You do not need to clear previous levels.
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By K123 2025-05-28 13:42:59
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V20 clears on T2 alone do not give access to V25 Tier2. V25 clears on all T1s AND all V20 clears on T2 would give access to T2 V25.

Are you saying if he got all T2 V25 without ever doing any T1 he would have all T1 V25 access unlocked? If so, I don't know about this.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-28 13:46:42
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He literally said all. I reiterated all atonements in my response. And you're still asking about only doing a middle tier and not the lower ones....
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-28 13:48:55
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K123 said: »
V20 clears on T2 alone do not give access to V25 Tier2. V25 clears on all T1s AND all V20 clears on T2 would give access to T2 V20.

Are you saying if he got all T2 V25 without ever doing any T1 he would have all T1 V25 access unlocked? If so, I don't know about this.

How can clearing on V20 all t2s give you access to V20 if you already had it?
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By Dodik 2025-05-28 13:52:50
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Do we need a definition on the word all now?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-28 14:26:17
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I think we're misunderstanding here, because I'm still seeing what Buukki said as incorrect.

If you have all V20 clears, you have access to pop any T1 at V25.

You do NOT have access to pop a T2, T3, or T4 at V25. However, you can pop them at V20.

To pop any T2 at V25, you must clear all T1s at V25.

So, having all V20 clears does not mean you can pop higher tiers at V25 for RP.

There is never any reason you'd need to go back and do a lower vengeance clear of the same NM. Clearing all V20s will let you pop all NMs at V20 and T1s at V25.
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By K123 2025-05-28 14:34:55
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
I think we're misunderstanding here, because I'm still seeing what Buukki said as incorrect.

If you have all V20 clears, you have access to pop any T1 at V25.

You do NOT have access to pop a T2, T3, or T4 at V25. However, you can pop them at V20.

To pop any T2 at V25, you must clear all T1s at V25.

So, having all V20 clears does not mean you can pop higher tiers at V25 for RP.

There is never any reason you'd need to go back and do a lower vengeance clear of the same NM. Clearing all V20s will let you pop all NMs at V20 and T1s at V25.
This is what I'm saying. It is hard to word it in an explicitly clear way which makes it look like they are saying you can pop T2+3+Bumba V25 just because you have all T1+T2+T3+Bumba at V20. That is not true.
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By K123 2025-05-28 14:35:43
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
K123 said: »
V20 clears on T2 alone do not give access to V25 Tier2. V25 clears on all T1s AND all V20 clears on T2 would give access to T2 V20.

Are you saying if he got all T2 V25 without ever doing any T1 he would have all T1 V25 access unlocked? If so, I don't know about this.

How can clearing on V20 all t2s give you access to V20 if you already had it?
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By Dodik 2025-05-28 14:41:27
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The question was "Do I need to beat everything before v20 if I have all v20 clears", which is why I said all previous levels.

If you want to be able to pop v25 t3 you need t2 and t1 first - those are the next levels not the previous.

You can RP on V20 pops just fine. I was saying having all clears on V20, again that word all, gives you access to pop all V20s-V1s.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-28 14:52:21
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K123 said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
I think we're misunderstanding here, because I'm still seeing what Buukki said as incorrect.

If you have all V20 clears, you have access to pop any T1 at V25.

You do NOT have access to pop a T2, T3, or T4 at V25. However, you can pop them at V20.

To pop any T2 at V25, you must clear all T1s at V25.

So, having all V20 clears does not mean you can pop higher tiers at V25 for RP.

There is never any reason you'd need to go back and do a lower vengeance clear of the same NM. Clearing all V20s will let you pop all NMs at V20 and T1s at V25.
This is what I'm saying. It is hard to word it in an explicitly clear way which makes it look like they are saying you can pop T2+3+Bumba V25 just because you have all T1+T2+T3+Bumba at V20. That is not true.

Ok my mistake here
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