New Impeachment Scam Thread. Nice People Only.

Welp Rp&r is shut down but p&r is not. So i offer a specific challenge to all my fellow gamers.

Impeachment is a scam. Change my mind.

Rep Swallwell just openly said Trump needs to prove his innocence, that isn’t how our system of laws works.

Secondly, Trump has already proven his innocence, he released the transcript, which shows no hint of misconduct.

The irony of this thread title.

Scam or coup?

Both.

I doubt Rooks wanted a new thread a day after he nuked the last one lol.

I didn't say "NO P+R AT ALL". What I said was no RP+R, which means anything here needs to stay on the given topic and follow the standard rules. That little loophole is intentional; I want to see if people can actually behave with a stricter set of rules. No more leeway, because looking back through the post history, it's not deserved.

I also am not excited about policing this ***again, and it was a massive factor in why I found other things to occupy my free time for a couple of years, so it's going to very much be along the lines of "shoot first, ask questions if I feel like it".

From a site maintenance perspective, the logical response has always been to burn this section to the ground and salt the Earth afterwards. I've tried to avoid that outcome and I have not been rewarded for my faith. We'll see if this goes any differently.

Welp Ratcliff pops the Schiff scam/coup.

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Ratcliff: “Excuse me mr witness, can you tell us what the impeachable offense is here?”

Schiff: (flips out tries to silence the questioning)

Witness: I have something to say

(Silence)

Witness: “Im not here to get into whats impeachable or not.”

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Boom, thats game over folks. There is no crime here.

Yeah, and CNN is focusing entirely on the hearsay because there is no there there. So much for a slam dunk.

The only thing I'm really getting out of the whole show, is that they conveniently forget that threats don't have to be carried out to still have happened.

Once again, this did not happen. Its a complete misrepresentation of the exchange.

Threatening someone like “you’re going to fire that prosecutor that's investigating my son or you don’t get the money?” Which we have on tape.

Or something that someone heard from some other guy who heard that Trump threatened someone? (Cause thats the jist of today).

Wow, seems like nausi learned a lot from that thread closing. This didn't happen either.

My post tl:dw pretty well.

Trump threatened ukraine; the threat was not carried out, so the threat never happened. Totally ignored, and therefor that instance of quid pro quo doesn't exist.

No change really, we have gotten a lot of conspiracies about Hunter Biden and the 2016 election thrown out there by the Republicans, none of which went anywhere. There certainly hasn't been any exculpatory evidence brought forward.

The threat was actually carried out for months. The aid was authorized in May and not released in September when it began to trickle out that Trump was engaging in a quid pro quo. He hoped by releasing the money it would just disappear, as you said. Nope.

Actually, even more tl:dr is that

"trying to do something illegal isn't illegal because it didn't succeed" More or less the entirety of the last 3 years, summed up.

"No change" would be a failure for the Democrats. They are far from having a sure thing, but that's exactly what they need for this to not backfire.

Not really, there was a high chance of an impeachment vote happening before today, there is still a high chance. Hence, no change.

That’s an incorrect characterization.

There is no evidence Trump threatened anything or even intended to threaten anything. There is only hearsay, people testifying that they heard that Trump wanted to do something.

Thats why many (correctly) characterize this as a nothing burger. Can you imagine if someone could go to the cops and say “I heard Eiryl was gonna threaten someone.” And you could be thrown in jail for it?

Yeah this isn’t gping to work, they have nothing. With clinton we had a stern talking down to from the pres to the press, followed by a semen stained blue dress, then a mea culpa, then actual confirmed perjury.

And it STILL backfired on the GOP in 1998 when they impeached him.

We know for a fact that Trump blocked the money because he wanted an investigation into his political opponent. He was even helping set up a tv spot for Zelensky to announce it

People are not seeing blockbuster headlines on CNN as they are walking through airports and transit hubs.

Thats for sure.

Nunes brought up 3 different debunked conspiracies during his opening state ments. None of them had any merit.

Schiff lying again today, claiming he doesn’t know the ID of the whistleblower, which is demonstrably false


Lefties unironically deserve better than this.

Democrats good.
Republicans bad.
Orange man very bad.

Not trying to derail, but who is this "we" that "knows" reasons? Seems more like conjecture. Which is a reasonable one, but "knowing for a fact" has a tinge of having absolute certainty.

That quote does nothing to prove Schiff knows the name of the whistleblower.