A Summoner's Gear Guide

It's been discussed like in the previous page if I recall.
Nirvana should win, if in your case it doesn't make sure you have large enough samples and it's not just a coincidence.

For physical BPs, if you're talking about those with no FTP transfer, Nirvana probably wins on those, but those are pretty meh so in the end who cares who wins?
If you're talking about those with FTP transfer, then one of the best options of the augmented Oboro weapon.
Nirvana of course wins here BUT only if you have AM3 up. If you do then the margin is quite clear. Without AM3 Oboro's weapon actually pulls ahead on some BP. When it doesn't, it's quite close but behind.


That's as far as I remember, I apologize if something is wrong!

Nirvana, and it's not even close.

Keep in mind, if there are other Ifrits then timing plays a crucial part in your Flaming Crush damage. If you go right on the heels of another Flaming Crush, you're probably going to get walled to half damage at best.

There's no practical difference besides the ability to augment.

quick question cause i cant wrap my head around the math cause im a dumdum

i have apogee +1 pants path d, apogee pants path a, and enticers pants

there are 2 other (3 total with pants) apogee +1 pieces in my magical bp set

which one should i be using for magic bps? path d for the huge amounts of +bp damage and a 3 piece set bonus adding more?

path a(NOT +1) because 30 mab might somehow outstrip the 26ish bpd damage total from path path d +1 pants, or enticers because even those it doesnt even have more bpd than my path a nq pants, the +650 tp bonus is somehow trumping both other options

Enticers and Apogee+1[A] are both BIS. One can do slightly more than the other depending on stuff like how much TP the avatar has and how much TP actually affects the BP in question (it varies slightly). But they're basically equivalent and both should beat Apogee+1[D] by about 4%.

NQ Apogee[A] should also beat Apogee+1[D] (by about 1%) but I suspect they'll struggle to beat Enticers so just make it simple and use Enticers. Only neurotic Summoners like myself buy two pairs of Apogee Slacks +1.

Edit: Note that Flaming Crush is a hybrid so it's different. Apogee+1 is best for that, A and D both being good. I think A is better, but I never really fully decided on that because it's really hard to tell so again... if you don't want to be a neurotic SMN you can just use path D for Flaming Crush and skip a 2nd pair of slacks.