A Summoner's Gear Guide

It's been discussed like in the previous page if I recall.
Nirvana should win, if in your case it doesn't make sure you have large enough samples and it's not just a coincidence.

For physical BPs, if you're talking about those with no FTP transfer, Nirvana probably wins on those, but those are pretty meh so in the end who cares who wins?
If you're talking about those with FTP transfer, then one of the best options of the augmented Oboro weapon.
Nirvana of course wins here BUT only if you have AM3 up. If you do then the margin is quite clear. Without AM3 Oboro's weapon actually pulls ahead on some BP. When it doesn't, it's quite close but behind.


That's as far as I remember, I apologize if something is wrong!

Nirvana, and it's not even close.

Keep in mind, if there are other Ifrits then timing plays a crucial part in your Flaming Crush damage. If you go right on the heels of another Flaming Crush, you're probably going to get walled to half damage at best.

There's no practical difference besides the ability to augment.

quick question cause i cant wrap my head around the math cause im a dumdum

i have apogee +1 pants path d, apogee pants path a, and enticers pants

there are 2 other (3 total with pants) apogee +1 pieces in my magical bp set

which one should i be using for magic bps? path d for the huge amounts of +bp damage and a 3 piece set bonus adding more?

path a(NOT +1) because 30 mab might somehow outstrip the 26ish bpd damage total from path path d +1 pants, or enticers because even those it doesnt even have more bpd than my path a nq pants, the +650 tp bonus is somehow trumping both other options

Enticers and Apogee+1[A] are both BIS. One can do slightly more than the other depending on stuff like how much TP the avatar has and how much TP actually affects the BP in question (it varies slightly). But they're basically equivalent and both should beat Apogee+1[D] by about 4%.

NQ Apogee[A] should also beat Apogee+1[D] (by about 1%) but I suspect they'll struggle to beat Enticers so just make it simple and use Enticers. Only neurotic Summoners like myself buy two pairs of Apogee Slacks +1.

Edit: Note that Flaming Crush is a hybrid so it's different. Apogee+1 is best for that, A and D both being good. I think A is better, but I never really fully decided on that because it's really hard to tell so again... if you don't want to be a neurotic SMN you can just use path D for Flaming Crush and skip a 2nd pair of slacks.

Can someone post a quick BIS physical (volt strike/hysteric assault) BP set, would appreciate.

All the sets on the main page are up to date. Of the 4 physical ones listed, I think this one with the extra helios does the best for the multihits.

ItemSet 366331

Would u take apogee pumps +1 over hellos with max augment ex dbl 7 30attack and 7bp damage?

would u use the Glyphic Doublet +3 over the Convoker's doublet +3? for physical Bps?

You need to divide Physical BPs in two groups.
1) Physical BPs with replicating FTP
2) All other Physical BPs

For the first group, Glyphic Doublet +3 (and any gear with Pet Multiattack, really) is very very good. Wether or not it's better than Convoker+3 depends on the rest of your gear but most of the time, yes, it will.

For the second group, nay, Convoker all the way. Granted there's not a lot of very relevant BPs in this group, you won't really use them often, if at all.

have an example BP of the 2 categories?

If it's multi-hit, fTP generally carries. So stuff like Predator Claws, Volt Strike, Hysteric Assault, etc. Glyphic Doublet +3 is great for those. Same with Helios.

If it's single-hit, like Spinning Dive or Mountain Buster, then Pet:DA doesn't help. Convoker Doublet and Apogee Pumps will be better.

Honestly that set posted is slightly out of date. It looks like a set for multi-hit BPs so it should probably be using Glyphic Doublet. Also should drop Gelos for Sroda/Beckoner.

Thanks for answering that I was wondering as well if I should use that earring I habe a +1 beckons earring would u use that or a sroda

Thanks for answering that I was wondering as well if I should use that earring I habe a +1 beckons earring would u use that or a sroda

Pretty sure it's Lugalbanda + sroda for physical and Lugalbanda + Beckoner (even +1) for magical these days.

Thanks

Thanks

would the AF3 pants the TP bonus 700 be useful?

They are ok, but Enticer's Pants are still better if you dont need the Pet: Acc/Macc.

thanks

has anyone been able to get decent numbers from nether blast and night terror? NB best like like 9.4k and NT was like 18k

Night Terror does additional damage to sleeping targets, but in general Nether Blast and Night Terror tend to do lower dmg than merit BPs, but they’ll rip through an enemies defenses. Rarely do you see them get resisted, and they also work on stuff that normally Darkness dmg wouldn’t work well on Such as Ongo.

They actually cannot be resisted, that's their gimmick and why their peak damage potential is a bit lower than other magic BPs. Like Bopo said, this makes them fantastic for resistant mobs like V25 Odyssey or the sandworm in Reisenjima if it's spamming earth magic.

If you're looking for a more powerful dark nuking option, Fenrir's Impact tends to be stronger where magic accuracy isn't as big of a concern.

This may be a stupid question but I kept looking at the Hunt Registry going "What the hell is that even for" and that took me down a rabbit hole to thinking "Would it even make sense to make an armor set (minus head) to get a 12 minute reduction time on Astral Flow recast?"

Is this a dumb thought? Or is there something that might be useful here?

All these recast reductions were gimped when 2hrs became 1hrs. Also not all armor slots can hold the biggest evoliths.

You can get about -7, which would be 3.5 minutes.

You know, I thought this was the case, but second guessed myself while writing my reply. Should have stuck to my guts.

That answers my question. Thanks.

Mostly useful for jobs like cor or brd, to fit in more 1hrs counting for cutting cards and/or wild card as well.

Why Helios head over C. Palug Crown?

Question for clarity, as I got unexpected results when testing: I assume BP is a JA and thus has no midcast? Only precast? If so, I need to adjust my sets.

precast is bp timer gear, midcast it bp damage gear as the avatar readies the move.

gearswap has a lot of issues with doing the 'midcast' set properly in laggy situations, so if you consistently see damage drop substantially and it isn't a resist or misses, you'll need to tweak things.