August 2016 Version Update

Gorpa-Masorpa has undergone sensitivity training, and will now perform the following for players.

This new set feels like wishing for a Playstation as a kid and then your grandparents got you a Polystation for X-mas morning.

While this is a nice bonus i don't think it will change alot for melee survivability.
Not online atm but my VIT on melees is around 200 if i remember correctly, so we are looking at 200 more def + most dangerous AOEs are magic based anyways.

Ambuscade and Legion monsters have undergone the following adjustments.

•A system has been introduced in which the damage taken from elemental area of effect abilities used by monsters against entities other than the main target will be decreased.

Thanks for this. As someone who sees returnees, it's crazy how anyone can expect them to get the gears they are suggesting. Those who claim it is stupidly easy and will take 2 hours have groups of friends or multiple accounts. Returning players have nothing, they don't even have ways of making gil. These players struggle to do Dynamis and Salvage solo .. yet they are expected to beat ilvl NMs?

There's one guy on my server who does Ambuscade and is one of the gimpiest players I've seen in a while. It's like .. they started the game, got to 99, and jumped into Very Difficult Ambuscade. Tried to get them to do other basic things like Skirmish and get their reforged .. but nooo, they have to set up Very Difficult Ambuscades as party leader. At least they are persistant, otherwise they would have nothing but some cheap level 99 gear.

I got this person in my party once. It took us 9-10 minutes per kill (they were on THF and missed constantly). So I replaced them and we got it down to 3-5 minutes. And people expect returnees to do Escha and Reisenjima with ease??? They probably don't even have their nation missions done to enter these zones!

I've been helping a few players with Cloud Of Darkness. Hell, til they've done that there's no point in them doing anything more. That's a good marker, if you can get past that then I would say you have sufficient experience and equipment to challenge Escha stuff. But on Reisenjima NM, you would be very lucky to make a pick up party. I still need that damn Golden Kist NM, but no one wants to do it. I've asked my Vagary LS members if they want to help out .. but most of them have done it and only want T3+

So all this elitism is incredibly annoying. Server population is just one obstacle. Then you need to find the right people, with the right jobs, who can actually listen and have some idea of what to do. Those who are in endgame linkshells with several friends, you are EXTREMELY lucky to have that. Those linkshells who I see get Aeonic after Aeonic are EXTREMELY lucky that you not only have the time, but you are on a server which has decent enough players to go through that repeatedly. Come to Cerberus where no *** wants to do anything ever. Then you might begin to see why these casual players don't just go out and get Escha/Reisen gear in 2 hours.

Don't have friends to kill stuff for gears? Just pay for merc.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Regular ambuscade: three acroliths:

Overpowering: melts to magic damage.

Studious: seems to resist magic damage.

Quirinus (the main dude): seems to resist magic damage. Uses mighty strikes. Locks on to whoever kills either overpowering or studious for what seems like a whole minute.

Seems best to just melee Quirinus down while ignoring the other two.

I'm inclined to agree with Afania here.

If you don't have friends or anyone that wants to help you kill stuff for gear then you pretty much have two options:

A. Try forming a shout group and keep farming until you get the item.
B. Pay for a Merc.

FFXIV has this as well and what you will find that unless you have people helping you, you will end up in a shout group trying to kill something. You may fail or you may win and then if you win you have to roll against several other people. It can be a very frustrating experience.

You may not want to Merc, but if you don't have to merc and you don't have friends then you have to go down Path A and that involves dealing with people ect.

Afania isn't saying this is the way it should be but he is mentioning that is the way things are.

I mean what does everyone want? Free gear? For everything to be soloable? For people to nice and courtesy? The first two would ruin the game and the latter is impossible.

Also why does everyone want to make Mercing look terrible? Do you get mad when Chefs cook your food at a restaurant? I mean you can cook the meal yourself right? But it is much more convenient to have it made and brought to your table. Most people want Gear so they can participate in events that require said gear and feel useful. Some people don't play this game to acquire gear but rather to fight the mobs and have fun that way.

When I get a piece of equipment, I want to achieve it the real way. Having a chef cook you something for a price is not achieving. It's more like paying someone to fill in for you in a marathon .. then you take the trophy at the end and celebrate like you did it yourself.

Anyone have info on the new vol.2 fight? Or is there a thread about it?

...I'm sorry but, whatever is going on about elitism in this thread, I don't want to crawl through it... so I'll just ask about ^. <_<;

You farmed the money to buy the piece didn't you? If I got and buy a Pixie Hairpin +1 I am still going to be just as excited as if I got it from a random loot box. If anything farming the money is much more rewarding than hoping a slot machine spits out the right piece for you.

Unless you are buying the gil you are always earning the piece of equipment.

Sorry for the double, put seperate topic:


http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/48624/ambuscade-findings/13/

You can find some information there. Otherwise you may find some digging through the info here.

Buying equipment from the AH is completely different. I do not feel a sense of achievement from buying a piece of gear. The only gear in the game that I feel a sense of that is Rare/EX gear. It's nice to get a piece of gear that sells on AH for free, it saves you some farming time, but it certainly is not an achievement. Farming enough gil to buy all the Alexandrites/Beitetsus by yourself (like I did for six months) for an Afterglow Mythic is an achievement. And there was all the other quests to do as well.

You may also function entirely different than others though. Doesn't matter how you see it though, unless people are buying gil, they are earning their gear whether or not they merc or not. It is definitely a viable option to obtain some of the gear you want.

When I get a piece of equipment, I want to achieve it the real way. Having a chef cook you something for a price is not achieving. It's more like paying someone to fill in for you in a marathon .. then you take the trophy at the end and celebrate like you did it yourself.

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It's always been an option. But for players to tell other players 'just make gil and merc it!' is wrong. They should be educating and helping them reach a level where they can contribute to a party which can spam the content they want, to get the equipment the real way. We are supposed to come together and help each other .. but those who merc only really care about themselves and small group of friends.

I made a Vagary LS because someone was offering clears for a stupid amount of money. If I didn't make the LS over a year ago, I wonder how many players would have forked over their gil instead of learning the game and their jobs. Many strangers have come and gone over the past year, and it's great because those I helped have moved on to better things. And I get some nice /waves from people when they see me. Helping others for free is way better than offering millions of gil for an item.

I am actually very to fortunate to be in a LS very similar to yours and I can agree 100% that the experience if far better on either end of the spectrum. I also used to Merc runs in FFXIV for players who couldn't find groups. I remember several runs the players asked to join and I put them in our teamspeak and walked them through the fights while getting them the win. That was a great experience too.

I agree with you that it shouldn't be the only advice given, but it is still advice that can be given and should be given as sometimes it will be a lot less stressful and easier.

They might not want to form relationships

Why the Merc hate? You don't have to use it but for those on a tight time schedule its great! Some people have time to devote to game due to lack of progression in real life, others have a very active real life. Neither is better, just different and if your happy both are fine.

However, a regular person (benefit to society) will sleep 8 hrs + work 8 hrs + travel time and lunch to said work 2 hr + eating/showering morning and night 2 hrs. That's 20 hrs right there, meaning with a perfect day you will be left with 4 hrs of 'free' time. For those that have an active life this means time with family/friends/house work/etc etc. Most people should have another hobby than just living in basement and ffxing.

You can see why a merc is important to said people I hope? It is hard to get a shout party going to try for gear, will spend 30 mins easily to get said party up and running. If the party kills and doesnt wipe (the rare factor) you will need to probably kill a good 20 times the same mob to get people the gear they want. Most fights for said groups will take 10 mins-15mins for kill/prep/getKI time. Thats 5 hrs of kills, or better said WAY MORE TIME THAN THEY HAVE.

However said person could go do salave+dyna+salavage in a 3 hr block and run out with around 4mil minimum. They just saved 2 hrs, then they can sit 30 mins and let a person merc them something and pay 3mil-4mil on avg for it. With this approach they are being the most effective and productive they can be. What a smart person :D

Other benefit is this, while they sit for merc, they can do housework/cook/clean this is killing 2 birds with one stone :D again what a smart person! Not to mention they dont have to ditch a party 30 mins in and create a bad rep for themseleves because X-thing happened during middle of run and they have to GTG!

Everyone has different time to devote, I play much more than avg, because I do not hold a fulltime job atm (college student). This doesnt mean I am a jerk to those that do, I understand people have real life and realistically they are probably wiser to limit ffxi time than me, but oh well I enjoy how I waste my time.

There are some players who are really lonely and have more gil than sense. They might not want to form relationships, so they find the nearest merc and get the gear they want. I get that, that's fine if they want to do it. But like you said, shouldn't we be helping these players for free if we can? With the servers dwindling like they are, finding quality players is only going to get more difficult. Would the linkshells who offer merc services rather get some gil? Or train someone so if a spot opens up for them in the future they can jump in and actually know what to do because you told them how?

Again, being a merc for someone isn't like you're commiting murder in broad daylight. For those who are 1) lonely or 2) have very limited time, I totally see why they would merc. I never disputed that. The only thing I disputed was players who encourage others to merc (when they have the time and ability not to) over actually helping them for free. I wonder how many would choose to help someone over taking their gil. That's what I'm looking for here .. how many care to help strangers over lining their pockets.