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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2016-08-03 03:29:30
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Ahriman are demons

http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Bestiary
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By Lakshmi.Geneyus 2016-08-03 03:30:59
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Tried gigas on D. BRD mule that is not amazing but not tragic was resisted with JA Lullaby. Just normal resist message, so someone with better gear might be able to do it.

They did something to remove my pld's shield and made skillchains. Kind of a long delay to get in, but I'll try to see what else I can figure out before I get frustrated and switch to acroliths.

Edit: ES Sleep was also resisted. Going to try pulling with aoe on PLD to avoid the beeline for the WHM on pull thing.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-08-03 03:31:37
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Defense from VIT is now 1.5:1

14 DEF from 9 VIT
27 DEF from 18 VIT
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By Treizekordero 2016-08-03 03:37:39
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Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Defense from VIT is now 1.5:1

14 DEF from 9 VIT
27 DEF from 18 VIT

Almost what I wanted... I wanted 1 VIT = 2 DEF but 1 VIT = 1.5 DEF is good enough. So the ratio is 2:3 VIT:DEF now.
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By Odin.Brocovich 2016-08-03 03:43:32
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Treizekordero said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Defense from VIT is now 1.5:1

14 DEF from 9 VIT
27 DEF from 18 VIT

Almost what I wanted... I wanted 1 VIT = 2 DEF but 1 VIT = 1.5 DEF is good enough. So the ratio is 2:3 VIT:DEF now.

While this is a nice bonus i don't think it will change alot for melee survivability.
Not online atm but my VIT on melees is around 200 if i remember correctly, so we are looking at 200 more def + most dangerous AOEs are magic based anyways.
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By Pantafernando 2016-08-03 03:46:41
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Omg, 8 pages in so little time, guess this update has shocking news.
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By Bahamut.Godbringer 2016-08-03 03:47:06
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Anyone found out which craft makes the new Animator?
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By Boshi 2016-08-03 03:47:32
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+2 Alluvian stones added to rewards 200/ea
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By Treizekordero 2016-08-03 03:54:51
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Odin.Brocovich said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Defense from VIT is now 1.5:1

14 DEF from 9 VIT
27 DEF from 18 VIT

Almost what I wanted... I wanted 1 VIT = 2 DEF but 1 VIT = 1.5 DEF is good enough. So the ratio is 2:3 VIT:DEF now.

While this is a nice bonus i don't think it will change alot for melee survivability.
Not online atm but my VIT on melees is around 200 if i remember correctly, so we are looking at 200 more def + most dangerous AOEs are magic based anyways.

Yeah but it's a nice start I'm sure we'll see more changes in September.
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2016-08-03 04:02:02
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So was there new music added to ambuscade?
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By Phoenix.Brixy 2016-08-03 04:16:05
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You only have to kill the big Acrolith. The fight automatically ends after he goes down. Main Acrolith can use Mighty Strikes. It caught me off guard and one shot me with some tp move. Not sure which move, battlemod just said "special attack" but it looks like it spams Dire Straight so maybe that was it?

2 min fight on VD with PUP tank, DNC, WAR, GEO, WHM, SMN. Seems simple enough
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-08-03 04:17:57
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Was literally just coming in to say that.

He seems to take less damage when his adds are out, but we're still testing to confirm. Entirely possible WAR will be nice for Tomahawk yet again.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-08-03 04:24:39
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Successfully cleared this month's D Intense with RUN BLU BRD SMN GEO WHM. Nothing was very threatening aside from one move the boss does which is AoE damage, Silence, knockback and depletes MP to 0. Counterable with high values of Refresh or forcing your WHM and GEO to buy a Vile Elixir/+1 for every fight (lol). Testing the range on that, but it might be over 20'. Also testing if Scherzo/EA was even needed.

Tuning up our strategy a bit before trying VD.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-03 04:27:01
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Odin.Brocovich said: »
Treizekordero said: »
Odin.Llewelyn said: »
Defense from VIT is now 1.5:1

14 DEF from 9 VIT
27 DEF from 18 VIT

Almost what I wanted... I wanted 1 VIT = 2 DEF but 1 VIT = 1.5 DEF is good enough. So the ratio is 2:3 VIT:DEF now.

While this is a nice bonus i don't think it will change alot for melee survivability.
Not online atm but my VIT on melees is around 200 if i remember correctly, so we are looking at 200 more def + most dangerous AOEs are magic based anyways.

This is also the same update they are lowering the damage from aoe moves and spells

This definitely helps melee survive easier which opens up a vast more jobs currently not seeing much play.

Vit increase for defense for players.

Evasion lowered for high level monsters.

Lowering the dmg of enemy mobs aoe abilities and magic

This is a quality of life win for the entire ffxi player base
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-08-03 04:33:17
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If I ever want to take that extra little bit of extra damage I will consider unsing the new set.
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By Pantafernando 2016-08-03 04:45:43
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I just did a small test with Apex Crabs using check commands:

Acc 934 - high evasion
Acc 1040 - no hints
Acc 1078 - low evasion

Wikia says with low evasion message, youre at least at 80% hit rate, with 1% hit rate every 2 acc, you need 1108 to reach 95% hit rate on apex crabs.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-03 04:49:37
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Can't wait to do more NM now
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-08-03 04:58:17
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Can't wait to see how Indi-Barrier and Gallant's Roll work now, with the new DEF values from VIT :D

In before 4k def.
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By Pantafernando 2016-08-03 05:07:13
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Can't wait to see how Indi-Barrier and Gallant's Roll work now, with the new DEF values from VIT :D

In before 4k def.

Arent they just a direct increase in defense?

Before update it was 2 vit for 1 defense, now its 1.5 so we should have like more 100 def than before. Its like just a def food. I dont see that much difference, its just a small boost imo.
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By Asura.Krystela 2016-08-03 05:08:23
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Might just be me, but good luck getting back on if you D/C.
The Playonline part is having serious issues right now, cant get back on at all.
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By Odin.Brocovich 2016-08-03 05:35:20
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Pantafernando said: »
Before update it was 2 vit for 1 defense, now its 1.5 so we should have like more 100 def than before.

before it was 2 VIT for 1 def,
now it is 1 VIT for 1.5 def (or 2 VIT for 3 def)
with ~100 base VIT +~100 from gear you get ~200 more def
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2016-08-03 05:36:32
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Pantafernando said: »
I just did a small test with Apex Crabs using check commands:

Acc 934 - high evasion
Acc 1040 - no hints
Acc 1078 - low evasion

Wikia says with low evasion message, youre at least at 80% hit rate, with 1% hit rate every 2 acc, you need 1108 to reach 95% hit rate on apex crabs.

You needed about 1225 on them before, so that is quite a drop. 1108 is literally my low acc set with Polearm on WAR.

What interests me here is that evasion will actually drop more the higher the level of the mob, assuming the formula for their evasion was changed. 135 mobs will be less than 1300 for most I can think of, 140-145s will still be all over the place, but on the high end we won't see more than 1700. 150s should be 1750-1800. While that is still high, we already know that's a number we can hit. Will be interesting to see if this changes anything.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-08-03 05:41:13
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Golly Gosh this OST is great.
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By Pantafernando 2016-08-03 05:52:05
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Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia said: »
Pantafernando said: »
I just did a small test with Apex Crabs using check commands:

Acc 934 - high evasion
Acc 1040 - no hints
Acc 1078 - low evasion

Wikia says with low evasion message, youre at least at 80% hit rate, with 1% hit rate every 2 acc, you need 1108 to reach 95% hit rate on apex crabs.

You needed about 1225 on them before, so that is quite a drop. 1108 is literally my low acc set with Polearm on WAR.

What interests me here is that evasion will actually drop more the higher the level of the mob, assuming the formula for their evasion was changed. 135 mobs will be less than 1300 for most I can think of, 140-145s will still be all over the place, but on the high end we won't see more than 1700. 150s should be 1750-1800. While that is still high, we already know that's a number we can hit. Will be interesting to see if this changes anything.

Just wanted to alert that the test was just what i could do before going to work, and there was just one apex crab before reive so im not sure if that crab was 128, 129 or 130. Jeanpaul noticed that the difference between them can be as large as 50 eva.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/47586/apex-camps/
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2016-08-03 09:44:01
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Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »
The elitism in this thread makes me want to puke.

Have you ever met a returnee? Perhaps a new player, or one that hasn't quite got the hang of how things work on certain mobs. Maybe even *gasp* a more casual player... You get the idea.

You (in the general sense) were once new. You had to have help to get where you are. I doubt that you had to pay for it, so why is it that you insult those who, like you once did, need assistance?

I help people all the time, because guess what, FFXI isn't a competition. It's a PvE environment, so really, who gives a damn?

The new gear looks interesting, and I for one will be willing to help people that want it,I or help with abjurations if they can supply the pop items.

tl;dr don't be a *** to people who are like you were

Thanks for this. As someone who sees returnees, it's crazy how anyone can expect them to get the gears they are suggesting. Those who claim it is stupidly easy and will take 2 hours have groups of friends or multiple accounts. Returning players have nothing, they don't even have ways of making gil. These players struggle to do Dynamis and Salvage solo .. yet they are expected to beat ilvl NMs?

There's one guy on my server who does Ambuscade and is one of the gimpiest players I've seen in a while. It's like .. they started the game, got to 99, and jumped into Very Difficult Ambuscade. Tried to get them to do other basic things like Skirmish and get their reforged .. but nooo, they have to set up Very Difficult Ambuscades as party leader. At least they are persistant, otherwise they would have nothing but some cheap level 99 gear.

I got this person in my party once. It took us 9-10 minutes per kill (they were on THF and missed constantly). So I replaced them and we got it down to 3-5 minutes. And people expect returnees to do Escha and Reisenjima with ease??? They probably don't even have their nation missions done to enter these zones!

I've been helping a few players with Cloud Of Darkness. Hell, til they've done that there's no point in them doing anything more. That's a good marker, if you can get past that then I would say you have sufficient experience and equipment to challenge Escha stuff. But on Reisenjima NM, you would be very lucky to make a pick up party. I still need that damn Golden Kist NM, but no one wants to do it. I've asked my Vagary LS members if they want to help out .. but most of them have done it and only want T3+

So all this elitism is incredibly annoying. Server population is just one obstacle. Then you need to find the right people, with the right jobs, who can actually listen and have some idea of what to do. Those who are in endgame linkshells with several friends, you are EXTREMELY lucky to have that. Those linkshells who I see get Aeonic after Aeonic are EXTREMELY lucky that you not only have the time, but you are on a server which has decent enough players to go through that repeatedly. Come to Cerberus where no *** wants to do anything ever. Then you might begin to see why these casual players don't just go out and get Escha/Reisen gear in 2 hours.
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By Bahamut.Eorphere 2016-08-03 09:44:33
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Has anyone done the new quest? I assume it is a continuation of the RoE quests for those who have done all coalitions, etc. Can anyone confirm?
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By Asura.Azriel 2016-08-03 09:54:22
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Because chatting in MMOs is not trendy anymore.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2016-08-03 09:57:12
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New Ambuscade music - http://wilddragonchase.com/FFXI/music085.mp3

BG Crafting Thread - https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/128982-New-Recipes-August-3rd-2016-Update
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