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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 14:13:18
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 14:14:41
before the voices in your head tells you to blow up a federal reserve
Inversely, Lordgrim, if you do have this, definitely call someone and tell them. 210-225-6741
This is the number you should call if you feel like blowing something up.
How is John B. Wear gonna help? What?
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-04-30 14:22:46
Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes. I'm trying to think of why this would be a problem. We might even get a boost in the economy from all the mental institutions we'd have to build and staff. Win-win! We used to have quite a lot more mental asylums. The patient abuse is kind of galling. I may find someone like Lordgrim or Rush Limbaugh distasteful, but that doesn't mean I wish them harm.
Ok, maybe I wish a little harm on Rush. But not some random internet poster.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 14:29:19
Ok, maybe I wish a little harm on Rush. But not some random internet poster.
Relax, he'll do it to himself with all those rx drugs of which he's such a fan.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 14:30:00
We used to have quite a lot more mental asylums. The patient abuse is kind of galling.
I'd like to think that we do better now and could use a lot more facilities for people who need them and aren't getting help. Not to cross-thread, but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 14:35:43
but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers... Problem is, where are you going to find the trained workers?
We already have a medical profession retention problem, due to a certain bill and regulations you probably don't want to hear about. Now you are asking for trained professionals where (almost) nobody wants to enter in the field?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-04-30 14:42:08
but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers... Problem is, where are you going to find the trained workers?
We already have a medical profession retention problem, due to a certain bill and regulations you probably don't want to hear about. Now you are asking for trained professionals where (almost) nobody wants to enter in the field? Outsource baby outsource!
Get those telepresence robots in there, guided by the cheapest people you can find on Mechanical Turk!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-04-30 14:43:41
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers... Problem is, where are you going to find the trained workers?
We already have a medical profession retention problem, due to a certain bill and regulations you probably don't want to hear about. Now you are asking for trained professionals where (almost) nobody wants to enter in the field? Just like how no one with dignity wants to be a cop, even the ones that choose to wear a badge just for the paycheck like the Baltimore Six. Or how no one with dignity wants to be a janitor, so the company hires an illegal to fill the job because the illegal WILL do it regardless just for a source of income... But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 14:46:07
But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it?
The problem is no one fitting wants the job, so they give it to whoever will take that level of pay. So you get sub-par service, but the price is right!
Which is, apparently, the American way these days.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 14:47:33
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers... Problem is, where are you going to find the trained workers?
We already have a medical profession retention problem, due to a certain bill and regulations you probably don't want to hear about. Now you are asking for trained professionals where (almost) nobody wants to enter in the field? Just like how no one with dignity wants to be a cop, even the ones that choose to wear a badge just for the paycheck like the Baltimore Six. Or how no one with dignity wants to be a janitor, so the company hires an illegal to fill the job because the illegal WILL do it regardless just for a source of income... So much hate in this post of yours. But seriously, can you prove that companies are hiring illegals to do janitorial work where immigration has no clue? Love for you to do so.
But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it? Which shows that there are people out there willing to do janitorial work....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 14:49:16
But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it?
The problem is no one fitting wants the job, so they give it to whoever will take that level of pay. So you get sub-par service, but the price is right!
Which is, apparently, the American way these days. I didn't know scrubbing toilets and changing paper towels is a trade skill...
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »How would you like to scrub toilets for a living? Most so-called "Americans", who consider themselves "better than the job-stealing illegals" wouldn't even do it, or consider doing it, feeling it's a position beneath them. And yet, they do it anyway.
By Bloodrose 2015-04-30 14:54:18
But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it?
The problem is no one fitting wants the job, so they give it to whoever will take that level of pay. So you get sub-par service, but the price is right!
Which is, apparently, the American way these days. I didn't know scrubbing toilets and changing paper towels is a trade skill...
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »How would you like to scrub toilets for a living? Most so-called "Americans", who consider themselves "better than the job-stealing illegals" wouldn't even do it, or consider doing it, feeling it's a position beneath them. And yet, they do it anyway.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-30 14:54:55
I didn't know scrubbing toilets and changing paper towels is a trade skill...
He also mentioned police officers, and we were discussing medical professionals as well. Not just MD/PhD/DOs, but also nurses, nursing support staff, the whole works.
Not so much about janitors, they're another story entirely.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-04-30 14:56:15
We already have a medical profession retention problem Can you cite that for me? I have a LOT of family and friends who work in a wide variety of medical fields and what I mostly hear is that no one wants to hire a nurse or physical therapist with 30 years of experience because then they'd have to, y'know, pay them commensurate to their experience.
As for the question of trying to make more institutions... it's not even a payscale issue, although that does have an impact. Cops, physicians/nurses, teachers, and a few other professions (TSA employees, for instance) are put into positions of extreme power over the lives of other people and corruption is very hard to avoid/resist. Those problems quickly become entrenched, especially since they can provide the appearance of short-term benefit, and the whole thing rots from the inside out.
I don't actually have a solution, either. How can you neuter a social worker's influence such that they can keep a dangerous person locked up but not have the ability to exploit that? The relationship many psychologists have with their long-term patients is frequently exploitative and they're supposed to be trained explicitly against that. It might be time to get cracking on viable AI. It's just too hard to trust humans with all our glands and hormones and emotions.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-04-30 15:01:30
I didn't know scrubbing toilets and changing paper towels is a trade skill... I used to do janitorial work in a psych hospital. The actual skills of the job weren't particularly demanding, but the requirements were big. I needed to be meticulous about cleaning everything because it was a hospital, which is another word for "incubator" or "petri dish." I needed to be able to remain nonplussed around people with varying levels of psychological illness, to say nothing of physical illness and disability. Since I was popular with the patients, I had to employ a host of skills and knowledge that would never have been mentioned in the job posting, mostly to keep them at arm's-length.
Just because a job is simple on paper doesn't mean it's easy in practice. And, honestly, unless you're cleaning the toilets in a college dorm, scrubbing one clean is not really that onerous a task. I remember once going into my dorm's bathroom and seeing it literally covered in ***and blood. I didn't go back in that bathroom for several days, instead using another one or just pissing in my sink. I don't envy the hazmat team that had to clean that up.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-04-30 15:29:16
before the voices in your head tells you to blow up a federal reserve
Inversely, Lordgrim, if you do have this, definitely call someone and tell them. 210-225-6741
This is the number you should call if you feel like blowing something up.
How is John B. Wear gonna help? What?
Sorry, tad late in my response. My job occasionally requires me to do actual work... I'll have to complain to someone about that.
Anyway:
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 16:59:21
before the voices in your head tells you to blow up a federal reserve
Inversely, Lordgrim, if you do have this, definitely call someone and tell them. 210-225-6741
This is the number you should call if you feel like blowing something up.
How is John B. Wear gonna help? What?
Sorry, tad late in my response. My job occasionally requires me to do actual work... I'll have to complain to someone about that.
Anyway:
 Hmmm...
Well, at least 2 of the search results came in correctly, I don't know who the *** John B. Wear is though lol.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-04-30 17:02:02
Can you cite that for me? Sure
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-30 17:02:16
Johny B. is your worst nightmare.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-04-30 17:27:53
Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes. I'm trying to think of why this would be a problem. We might even get a boost in the economy from all the mental institutions we'd have to build and staff. Win-win! But St. Ronald the President freed the loonies!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-04-30 17:31:24
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »but if we could maybe convert some of these prisons into rehab, vocational, and psychological care centers with trained workers... Problem is, where are you going to find the trained workers?
We already have a medical profession retention problem, due to a certain bill and regulations you probably don't want to hear about. Now you are asking for trained professionals where (almost) nobody wants to enter in the field? Just like how no one with dignity wants to be a cop, even the ones that choose to wear a badge just for the paycheck like the Baltimore Six. Or how no one with dignity wants to be a janitor, so the company hires an illegal to fill the job because the illegal WILL do it regardless just for a source of income... But wait, if no-one wants the job, aren't wages supposed to increase to the point that people are willing to perform it? What do you think we have here in the USA, free market capitalism or something?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-04-30 21:52:43
No we have Corporations and a Central Bank out of line thinking they can overstep the american peoples authority over them through congress thats the whole point of a constitutional republic to be for and by the people not for and by corporations and central banks. Thats not the case anymore when Congress itself allows free trade deals to get passed through to further destroy Americas economy or mindlessly printing currency with no value saying it has value through DEBT. We live under the illusion that Countries like Russia, Iran are a threat when we can't realize the root of the problem is in our own country. Banks and Corporations should not be rulers but servants to the citizens of a nation. Here is something NBC or ABC or FoX or CNN will not cover.
ALL WARS ARE BANKERS WARS
Now presenting one of the greatest essays ever assembled about the true purpose of War over the last 250 years. Written by Michael Rivero, this film will truly change your views on how our banking system uses War to affect our daily lives.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-04-30 21:59:57
Can you cite that for me? SureInteresting. So the crux is a.) more old people means we need more healthcare professionals and b.) getting people to actually enter the profession would involve making the job not suck.
Answers to making the job not suck? Pay people better, don't expect them to work 60+ hour workweeks, encourage a work environment that is no more stressful than the nature of the job makes it. Oh, and hiring more people to achieve most of those effects.
That sounds like virtually every industry in the country right now, to be honest. The reason there aren't more plumbers isn't because there's a lack of plumbing jobs nor that occasionally dealing with a septic tank is a serious deal-breaker, it's that the payscale is still remarkably shitty at the bottom of the food chain and no one is willing to pay commensurate with experience or reverse many of the layoffs that were made in 2008-2009. It's almost like channeling most of the money in the country into the pockets of less than 1% of the population has a negative effect on every aspect of the economy. So weird. Money works best when it's not being spent, right?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-04-30 23:01:46
Now presenting one of the greatest essays ever assembled about the true purpose of War over the last 250 years. Written by Michael Rivero, this film will truly change your views on how our banking system uses War to affect our daily lives.
It's too bad that your reputation is such that the only people who will actually watch that video are the ones who already agree with you.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-04-30 23:11:25
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UFO TV?
UFOTV
ufotv.com/ said: World's largest selection of exotic science and suppressed history DVDs and Videos.
Uh huh
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-04-30 23:39:37
Wow, I'm not sure how I missed that. The video that's going to change our views... is from UFO TV? I just, I don't even... you know?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-05-01 07:40:17
Answers to making the job not suck? Pay people better, don't expect them to work 60+ hour workweeks, encourage a work environment that is no more stressful than the nature of the job makes it. Oh, and hiring more people to achieve most of those effects. You obviously do not know how much a healthcare professional is paid, do you?
Only people who really work more than 40 hours a week are the licensed professionals, and they are paid very well for their services. But I'm sure you will say that they all get paid less than minimum wage and not provide evidence to support it, other than a friend of a friend of a homie of an ex-boyfriend said so.
Also, another main reason why people aren't getting hired in the medical profession is, guess what, there are not that many people actually learning the skills to do it! How are you going to hire people when nobody is qualified to do it?
That sounds like virtually every industry in the country right now, to be honest. You are right, not enough skilled people to fill the professional jobs out there, but I'm sure it's the Republicans/Bush's fault for the deadbeats not, you know, getting an education. You have to work for a degree, it isn't handed to you on a silver platter like public education is....
Police Execute Homeless Man For Camping
March 24, 2014
Albuquerque New Mexico Journal
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Quote: You can add one more item to the list of things that will potentially get you killed by police: illegal camping.
New Mexico police are standing by their decision to shoot and kill 38-year-old homeless man James M. Boyd, who last Sunday made the ill-fated decision to shack up in the Sandia foothills due east of Albuquerque.
“Boyd was arguing with police for more [than] three hours last Sunday in the foothills after officers went to talk to him about illegally camping in open space,” reports KRQE.
But police soon grew weary of attempting to peacefully resolve the issue with the transient, who was approached as he was sleeping, and resorted instead to lobbing a flash-bang grenade, then firing a cascade of bullets as the man turned to escape, dispatching the supposed threat within a matter of seconds.
The Albuquerque Journal picks up the story:
The shots come after a confrontation in which the man, identified as 38-year-old James Boyd, tells police he’s going to walk down the mountain with them.
“Don’t change up the agreement,” Boyd says. “I’m going to try to walk with you.”
He tells officers he’s not a murderer.
Boyd picks up his belongings and appears ready to walk down toward officers. An officer fires a flash-bang device, which disorients Boyd.
Boyd appears to pull out knives in both hands as an officer with a dog approaches him. He makes a threatening motion toward the officer, then starts to turn around away from police.
That’s when shots ring out, and Boyd hits the ground. Blood can be seen on the rocks behind him.
After being rendered motionless, and even though the man can be heard moaning, “Please don’t hurt me,” and, “I can’t move,” APD officers proceed to fire beanbag rounds at Boyd, and sic their canine on him before stepping on his hand to make him release two small knives prior to handcuffing him.
“He died from his wounds in the hospital a day later,” reports The Daily Caller.
Police are convinced they were justified in killing Boyd and said they relied on various non-lethal methods before they opened fire with live ammo.
“Do I believe it was justified shooting? Yes, if you follow case law, ‘Garner versus Tennessee’, there was directed threat to an officer,” APD police chief Gordon Eden commented, citing a Supreme Court case which ruled that police can shoot a fleeing suspect who they believe “poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”
Meanwhile, APD’s release of helmet cam footage of the incident, which they say clearly shows Boyd posed a significant threat, is instead being regarded as a clear indication that the man was murdered in cold blood for a non-violent offense.
“I’m shocked. I’ve never seen a murder captured on videotape before,” attorney Joe Kennedy told KRQE. “This is… I’ve never seen anything quite like this.”
“There was another way to approach this whole situation that didn’t have to result in someone dying,” Peter Simonson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico, said. “We need a trustworthy investigation of incidents like this.”
Simonson says Boyd’s case should be considered in the Department of Justice investigation of Albuquerque PD for its use of force tactics.
Police are still waiting on a medical investigator to determine Boyd’s precise cause of death. In the meantime, the officers who opened fire on Boyd are on leave.
May 2nd 2015
Mainstream Media Vaccine Propaganda Exposed
ScienceMag.org
NBC'S LAW & ORDER: VACCINE AGENDA MOUTHPIECE
NBC'S LAW & ORDER
NETFLIX’S DAREDEVIL PUSHES MEASLES VACCINE
DAREDEVIL PUSHES MEASLES VACCINE
The vaccine debate makes its way through your television set. Disney, who owns Marvel, and coincidentally was ground zero for the measles outbreak, has been weaving vaccine propaganda into their stories. This is termed ‘behavior placement’ in which subtle messages are woven into shows. It should be noted that watching television instantly switches a viewer’s brainwaves into the alpha state (relaxation, suggestibility etc.). YouTube Video Placeholder
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