I'd really like to actually see discussions happen, if that wasn't clear, by the way.
Yes, even discussions about some of the drivel that Lordgrim posts. Is it any worse than the right-wing trollbait that ChaosX digs up? We've lately reached a point where fonewear is adding to discussions and that leaves me slightly frightened.
I don't feel like digging into Lordgrim's latest "Here's a video from an unreliable source" news, but if the police are literally murdering people... we should be bothered by that, right?
I'd like to see some real discussions too. For starters, we'd have to see each other as actual human beings instead of projections of stereotypes. After that, we'd have to learn how to discourse civilly without name-calling and/or over-emotional responses. After that we'd have to make a significant attempt to see things from the other side's perspective instead of immediately judging the view as stupid and scoffing at it. So, yeah. I guess it's possible... in theory.
As far as the police murdering people goes, I have a hard time really coming to grips with what is actually happening. Humans like things in neat little packages that they can blame it on. "Racism" is one that comes to mind. There are a large number of factors that come into play, many of which are a part of what we'd call the "root cause". You won't get a full analysis of those by the media, because they insist on keeping it simple and stupid so that people can relate, which ultimately results in low-information judgment. I don't know enough to actually make a judgment on it, nor does a vast majority of our population, but they do anyway because it fits their agenda. Yay politics.
So basically none of that is going to happen ! It was mentioned earlier by no one really discusses anything. 99.9% of everything that is posted is an opinion, and emotional response, a link to some website no one is going to read etc. To have a discussion you have to ask questions. Open ended questions.
that is posted is an opinion, and emotional response,
I've got news for you.
Everyone who complains about emotional responses is -- in fact -- providing an emotional response.
(Nearly) all people have emotions. And the very few that don't because of psychological disorders are likely not posting here.
Emotions are an immutable part of who we are and everyone who says that their post is logical and thought-out and clearly not an emotional response is merely providing an emotional response in their own way.
It was actully a pretty big deal and a lot of articles were written on it as people took to the streets to protest.
infowars.com finally broke the story though. So, to flower head, it never was covered until his conspiracy theory website covers it.
Your wrong again i knew it was old news they had it dated if you could bother to read. But I never seen it before and wanted to share because as the thread title says mainstream never shows much air time unless it's to cause racial tension to divide this country so we can't unite and make this country better.
It was actully a pretty big deal and a lot of articles were written on it as people took to the streets to protest.
infowars.com finally broke the story though. So, to flower head, it never was covered until his conspiracy theory website covers it.
Your wrong again i knew it was old news they had it dated if you could bother to read. But I never seen it before and wanted to share because as the thread title says mainstream never shows much air time unless it's to cause racial tension to divide this country so we can't unite and make this country better.
You never seen it before because you don't pay attention to the media, only conspiracy theory websites.
It was actully a pretty big deal and a lot of articles were written on it as people took to the streets to protest.
infowars.com finally broke the story though. So, to flower head, it never was covered until his conspiracy theory website covers it.
Your wrong again i knew it was old news they had it dated if you could bother to read. But I never seen it before and wanted to share because as the thread title says mainstream never shows much air time unless it's to cause racial tension to divide this country so we can't unite and make this country better.
Not a conspiracy when it's a fact. Your saying that homeless man did not die saying it's a Conspiracy and that infowars.com does not indeed post facts mainstream does not hardly ever give anytime. It's ok I know your a trendy and I am fine if you think everything is ok. I'm just giving you fair warning.
Not a conspiracy when it's a fact. Your saying that homeless man did not die saying it's a Conspiracy and that infowars.com does not indeed post facts mainstream does not hardly ever give anytime. It's ok I know your a trendy and I am fine if you think everything is ok. I'm just giving you fair warning.
Not a conspiracy when it's a fact. Your saying that homeless man did not die saying it's a Conspiracy and that infowars.com does not indeed post facts mainstream does not hardly ever give anytime. It's ok I know your a trendy and I am fine if you think everything is ok. I'm just giving you fair warning.
You are saying that mainstream media never covered it, Kara proved you wrong, you are still going by the notion that only lolinfowars covers "facts"
Seriously, open your eyes or get checked into a mental institution. Either change your problem or seek help to get your problem changed. Either way, do it, before the voices in your head tells you to blow up a federal reserve, you domestic terrorist.
Unless he's an immediate physical risk to himself or others, there's really not room. Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes.
Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes.
I'm trying to think of why this would be a problem. We might even get a boost in the economy from all the mental institutions we'd have to build and staff. Win-win!
Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes.
I'm trying to think of why this would be a problem. We might even get a boost in the economy from all the mental institutions we'd have to build and staff. Win-win!
You'd suffer economically - not enough trained people would be hired, and the people being locked up are the ones spending money.
I know you're an optimist, or being optimistic in this situation, but stupid people drive the economy... particularly the extremely stupid.
Otherwise we'd be checking in delusional idealogues from all the various political and religious extremes.
I'm trying to think of why this would be a problem. We might even get a boost in the economy from all the mental institutions we'd have to build and staff. Win-win!
You'd suffer economically - not enough trained people would be hired, and the people being locked up are the ones spending money.
I know you're an optimist, or being optimistic in this situation, but stupid people drive the economy... particularly the extremely stupid.
In this particular situation I was being completely facetious. I know that would never fly.
You can add one more item to the list of things that will potentially get you killed by police: illegal camping.
New Mexico police are standing by their decision to shoot and kill 38-year-old homeless man James M. Boyd, who last Sunday made the ill-fated decision to shack up in the Sandia foothills due east of Albuquerque.
“Boyd was arguing with police for more [than] three hours last Sunday in the foothills after officers went to talk to him about illegally camping in open space,” reports KRQE.
But police soon grew weary of attempting to peacefully resolve the issue with the transient, who was approached as he was sleeping, and resorted instead to lobbing a flash-bang grenade, then firing a cascade of bullets as the man turned to escape, dispatching the supposed threat within a matter of seconds.
The Albuquerque Journal picks up the story:
The shots come after a confrontation in which the man, identified as 38-year-old James Boyd, tells police he’s going to walk down the mountain with them.
“Don’t change up the agreement,” Boyd says. “I’m going to try to walk with you.”
He tells officers he’s not a murderer.
Boyd picks up his belongings and appears ready to walk down toward officers. An officer fires a flash-bang device, which disorients Boyd.
Boyd appears to pull out knives in both hands as an officer with a dog approaches him. He makes a threatening motion toward the officer, then starts to turn around away from police.
That’s when shots ring out, and Boyd hits the ground. Blood can be seen on the rocks behind him.
After being rendered motionless, and even though the man can be heard moaning, “Please don’t hurt me,” and, “I can’t move,” APD officers proceed to fire beanbag rounds at Boyd, and sic their canine on him before stepping on his hand to make him release two small knives prior to handcuffing him.
“He died from his wounds in the hospital a day later,” reports The Daily Caller.
Police are convinced they were justified in killing Boyd and said they relied on various non-lethal methods before they opened fire with live ammo.
“Do I believe it was justified shooting? Yes, if you follow case law, ‘Garner versus Tennessee’, there was directed threat to an officer,” APD police chief Gordon Eden commented, citing a Supreme Court case which ruled that police can shoot a fleeing suspect who they believe “poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”
Meanwhile, APD’s release of helmet cam footage of the incident, which they say clearly shows Boyd posed a significant threat, is instead being regarded as a clear indication that the man was murdered in cold blood for a non-violent offense.
“I’m shocked. I’ve never seen a murder captured on videotape before,” attorney Joe Kennedy told KRQE. “This is… I’ve never seen anything quite like this.”
“There was another way to approach this whole situation that didn’t have to result in someone dying,” Peter Simonson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico, said. “We need a trustworthy investigation of incidents like this.”
Simonson says Boyd’s case should be considered in the Department of Justice investigation of Albuquerque PD for its use of force tactics.
Police are still waiting on a medical investigator to determine Boyd’s precise cause of death. In the meantime, the officers who opened fire on Boyd are on leave.
May 2nd 2015
Mainstream Media Vaccine Propaganda Exposed ScienceMag.org
The vaccine debate makes its way through your television set. Disney, who owns Marvel, and coincidentally was ground zero for the measles outbreak, has been weaving vaccine propaganda into their stories. This is termed ‘behavior placement’ in which subtle messages are woven into shows. It should be noted that watching television instantly switches a viewer’s brainwaves into the alpha state (relaxation, suggestibility etc.).
