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FL Bill Would Imprison TSs for Using Bathrooms
By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:32:59
How exactly if this law is passed would this be enforced ? Is there a restroom assistant in public bathrooms to check this ?
I highly doubt a misdemeanor crime would result in a year in prison...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-02-06 22:35:16
Bathrooms are segregated by gender. That's how it has been and how is should (and will) stay. We don't do genital checks at the doors. Saying it doesn't target trans individuals is retardedly dense as they're the only group realistically affected by it. It's legislation meant to embarrass people back into the margins of society, and I'm not surprised to see support from the same group of people who carry a perpetual chip on their shoulder for the trans community.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-06 22:35:34
How exactly if this law is passed would this be enforced ? Is there a restroom assistant in public bathrooms to check this ?
Yeah. They actually have someone willing to do it for free already. I can't remember the name, but I think it was "William Clinton" or something like that.
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By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:37:12
I try to avoid public restrooms. You know what goes on in them...people like to pee on the seats...
By Jetackuu 2015-02-06 22:38:29
Bathrooms are segregated by gender. That's how it has been and how is should (and will) stay. We don't do genital checks at the doors. Saying it doesn't target trans individuals is retardedly dense as they're the only group realistically affected by it. It's legislation meant to embarrass people back into the margins of society, and I'm not surprised to see support from the same group of people who carry a perpetual chip on their shoulder for the trans community. I don't know about you and in Cali but over here it's separated by sex.
I'm all for ending bathroom segregation by sex, as I stated earlier.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-06 22:39:12
Besides the source article being Slate, I seriously cannot believe that this bill was even brought into legislation....
and yet....
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-06 22:40:53
This seems like way too much hassle for something that will only take a few minutes (unless you've been eating too much red meat).
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:40:54
Where should we stick Florida, that would actually accept it?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-06 22:41:32
Where should we stick Florida, that would actually accept it? The Kingdom of Lordgrim.
By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:41:49
Where should we stick Florida, that would actually accept it?
Winnipeg.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-06 22:42:37
Slap it on top of Israel.
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:42:39
Eh, Winnipeg already lost the Jets, we don't need to traumatize them anymore.
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By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:43:10
Slap it on top of Israel. saw this, and instantly thought:
"America's wang just slapped Israel"
By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:43:25
Slap it on top of Israel.
It would fit in the Gaza strip just bend it a bit !
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:43:59
Florida Curvature Syndrome.
Oh wait, it's already limp.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-06 22:44:51
Slap it on top of Israel.
It would fit in the Gaza strip just bend it a bit ! Got to tuck it in a little, but it should fit.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-06 22:45:22
Florida Curvature Syndrome.
Oh wait, it's already limp. Just like Hillary's.
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By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:45:26
Slap it on top of Israel.
It would fit in the Gaza strip just bend it a bit ! Got to tuck it in a little, but it should fit.
That's how I enter the women's restroom. Always cleaner in there !
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:48:56
Florida Curvature Syndrome.
Oh wait, it's already limp. Just like Hillary's. I thought she squared hers away in a box.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-06 22:50:16
Florida Curvature Syndrome.
Oh wait, it's already limp. Just like Hillary's. I thought she squared hers away in a box. Naw, she likes to pull it out every time Bill is in the room and there's hot women around.
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:51:02
Wouldn't that just drive him to the hot women instead?
I mean, a hot box gets all sweaty and nasty. And smells like rancid beef curtains.
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By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:51:37
At this point Bill would have to have an IV full of Viagra just to get through the day.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-06 22:52:24
Wouldn't that just drive him to the hot women instead?
I mean, a hot box gets all sweaty and nasty. And smells like rancid beef curtains. But then she can't slap Bill with it....
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:52:33
I heard he drinks Viagra smoothies.
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By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:53:24
That is the secret that will ruin Hillary's presidential bid. Breaking news Hillary was caught in a men's bathroom in Florida !
By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:54:11
I heard he drinks Viagra smoothies.
I do to I call them Tuesday's
By Bloodrose 2015-02-06 22:54:52
we need 1,000 vagina jokes before this reaches page 9.
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By fonewear 2015-02-06 22:55:32
we need 1,000 vagina jokes before this reaches page 9.
I don't know that will be pretty "hard" to do !
My bad I read that as Viagra not vagina.
Just run clips of Sarah Silverman or some other feminist comics all they do is vagina this vagina that.
Anyways vagina jokes aren't funny. Period.
By Zackan 2015-02-07 00:07:49
" There true gender"
Oh hell.. here we go..
All I will Say is.. Go Florida, thank you for not following in my States Footsteps(California)
Florida you are known for some dumb things, but on this one. Thumbs up.
That is all I'm glad your irrational fears are assuaged by junk legislation.
Irrational fears? What am I afraid of? either let all Males enter Female restrooms and vice versa.. or only let Males enter Male Restrooms.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-07 00:12:59
Besides the source article being Slate, I seriously cannot believe that this bill was even brought into legislation....
and yet....
 You confuse me more and more every day.
Anyhow, does this really matter to anyone? Anyone whatsoever?
I spend a lot of time surrounded by other gay men, meaning that having a sex-segregated bathroom is a "bonus" rather than detriment to seeing other people's genitals. And most of these guys are theater performers, too, so we've all long since burned off any shame we have. During breaks at rehearsals and the like, a good line of 20 men can rush to the bathroom to relieve our bladders (side note: and unlike the line outside the women's room, ours moves expeditiously). Even in places that don't have partitions between the urinals, even knowing that many of us are attracted to, dating, or have slept with other members, I've never seen anyone sneaking an illicit peak, much less an overt ogle. And that's pretty much the best chance anyone will have to see another person's genitals without their permission.
Consider a transgender person. Unless we're talking about someone who is FtM and so jacked up on testosterone that he really needs to swing whatever he has between his legs, that person is most likely to go into a stall. That's 100% the case in the women's room unless girly-urinals have been installed in the half a decade since I last saw the inside of a woman's restroom, and there's no men's room in the country that lacks for stalls. I know plenty of bio-men who have a list of reasons to use a stall beyond needing to defecate.
Who is seriously affected by this situation? The only conclusion I can draw, since this bill was yet another product largely made and imposed by heterosexual men, is that straight men are either so desperate for pussy that they can smell it through walls or that straight men have really bought into that "feminist" nonsense claiming all men are rapists. And there's the inherent misogyny of assuming a biologically-male person in the women's room, even if she's had her todger surgically inverted and her testes removed, is somehow a danger to all the women locked in their individual stalls.
Someone provide me some logic here. Someone at least tell me you had a circle jerk in the boys' room in middle school or something so we can at least pretend there's some remote basis for this.
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Quote: Gay marriage has been legal in Florida for a month now, and at this point, even the state’s hardcore conservatives seem increasingly resigned to the fact that marriage equality is here to stay. Accordingly, Florida’s more bigoted legislators have decided to turn their ire toward another maligned, disfavored minority—trans people—by proposing one of the most viciously sadistic, hypocritical bills the legislature has ever considered.
The basic purpose of the bill is quite simple: to forbid trans people from using the public bathroom that matches their true gender. According to the bill’s text, any trans person who enters a “single-sex public facility” that doesn’t match their “biological sex” is guilty of a first-degree misdemeanor. A “single-sex public facility” includes bathrooms “maintained by an owner of public accommodations, a school, or a place of employment”—basically, any public bathroom in the entire state. Any trans person who violates the act could be sentenced to one year in prison.
It gets much, much worse. Any non-trans person who discovers a trans person using a bathroom that doesn’t align with their “biological sex” would be permitted to sue that trans person under the act. (If sued successfully, the trans person would have to pay their accuser’s attorney fees.) And, in a final turn of the screw, an “owner of public accommodations, a school, or a place of employment” who allows a trans person to use the bathroom of their true gender is liable for a civil suit. In other words, if a store owner does not actively prevent trans people from using her bathrooms, she can be sued by other customers. And of course, if the trans-friendly store owner is found to have allowed a trans person to use the bathroom, she’ll not only have to pay damages to disgruntled customers—she’ll also have to pay their attorney’s fees.
The obvious intent of this bill is to humiliate trans people by opening them up to criminal and civil liability merely for performing the most basic of bodily functions. Trans people already face harassment, discrimination, and sometimes violence while attempting to use the bathroom. This bill would effectively give anti-trans harassers the state’s blessing, while providing them a new avenue through which to shame trans Floridians—the court system. Many trans people are already anxious about using public bathrooms; some are afraid to leave their homes given the risk of verbal and physical abuse they face in public facilities. With this bill, the state would effectively legalize anti-trans harassment, sending a resounding message to trans people that they are not welcome in public life.
But perhaps the galling component of the bill is its astonishing interference into private businesses. For years, conservatives have been complaining that LGBT non-discrimination ordinances impede the liberty of business owners. These businesses, conservatives argue, should have the freedom to conduct their affairs however they so choose—even if that means kicking out gay customers who want to buy their products. With the tables turned, however, Florida’s right-wing legislators have changed their tune, arguing that private business owners should be forbidden from letting trans customers use their bathrooms. This intrusion into the autonomy of businesses is as hideously hypocritical as it is unsurprising. Most conservatives are only willing to defend business owners’ rights so long as they’re exercising their right to discriminate against LGBTQ people. When businesses wish to tolerate LGBTQ customers, conservatives have no problem passing a law restricting their liberty.
It is probably too soon to tell whether Florida’s bill will pass—though given this legislature’s track record, any bill designed to demean a sexual minority has fair odds of becoming law. Either way, the mere existence of such a mean-spirited bill sends a blunt message to the state’s trans community that they are not welcome here. It was probably inevitable that, once the marriage equality debate settled down, those who dedicate their lives to promoting hatred would set their sights on trans people. But the maliciousness and celerity with which Florida’s legislators have zeroed in on the trans community suggests the next battle for LGBTQ rights will be a brutal one.
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