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By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 15:57:27
Oh, didn't realize there was a double standard(but I should have assumed as much), ok Altima and KN can be *** to everyone, and not backup anything they say and are our supreme overlords. Everyone else, even if you have the most elegant posts, with sources, you just get called a hypocrit and your opinions are throw out. check
Except for the only time we call people hypocrites is when they are acting the part. Then, never fails the next two pages ensue because they don't understand what being a hypocrite means. Lastly, Altima and KN are blamed for being supreme overlords because people nitpick and insult their way out of being called a hypocrite. This sounds oddly like you. Can you not introspect either?
Pretty sure hypocrites arent people that you think are wrong for just "reasons".
Im very much a hypocritical passive aggressive person: but i havent once said anything that could be misconstrued or even construed as hypocrisy in this specific thread.
Which leads to:
Oh, didn't realize there was a double standard(but I should have assumed as much), ok Altima and KN can be *** to everyone, and not backup anything they say and are our supreme overlords. Everyone else, even if you have the most elegant posts, with sources, you just get called a hypocrit and your opinions are throw out. check I may have accidentally'd a trap in there.Oops
Please show me when I ever called you a hypocrite. You like to take posts not directed at you and make them about you when no need exists.
Quote: Just figured out why all liberals are hypocrites. They think it means condescending or belittling. Explains A LOT!
Pretty sure that was at least passively directed at me. God damn ability to comprehend and piece together things :(
Quote: Also! Please point out me being a hypocrite since you think this. Quote: This sounds oddly like you. Can you not introspect either? I may have accidentally'd a trap in there.Oops
It was only directed at you if you wanted it to be, and I only asked for one of me being hypercritical not a single post full.
But that would require actual work and a lot of it since I actually try my best to not be a hypocrite.
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 15:59:03
Oh wait, you didn't use "nice" right! It means to belittle somebody!
Also, you didn't use "backpedal" right either! It means to condense!
Your post is all wrong! Now you're grasping at straws~
Also, explaining the meaning of ones statement when someone decides to make a point to it is not "Backpedaling" :) Wait, you honestly did not see the sarcasm in my post? It was so obvious even Stevie Wonder could have seen it.
Oh, didn't realize there was a double standard(but I should have assumed as much), ok Altima and KN can be *** to everyone, and not backup anything they say and are our supreme overlords. Everyone else, even if you have the most elegant posts, with sources, you just get called a hypocrit and your opinions are throw out. check Show anywhere in the past 3 or so pages of an "elegant post, with sources" at all. Heck, show one where Jassik, Vic, yourself, Enu, or Pleebo fits that description in this entire thread.
I guess you will just say all of them, because you do no wrong and are perfect in every way possible... I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense...
But thats like...so 4 pages ago?
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. But thatd take a while. Also, 2-4 pages ago.
Im just being lazy today really.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-31 16:01:24
because people nitpick and insult their way out of being called a hypocrite.
It was so obvious even Stevie Wonder could have seen it.
You could not be more right, Altima
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 16:02:59
because people nitpick and insult their way out of being called a hypocrite.
It was so obvious even Stevie Wonder could have seen it.
You could not be more right, Altima So, new definition of being a hypocrite is to be sarcastic now?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 16:06:38
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-31 16:07:22
For someone that has read so many bills you sure don't seem to know what words mean. That explains a lot
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 16:08:30
Keep grasping those straws.
Pretty soon, you will find something else to try to attack and fail miserably at....
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By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 16:13:25
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also. Pretty sure mine isnt an opinion, i would just have to scour the internet for losses in funding in sectors that arent related to the manufacture and distribution of oil (Of which there are many, seeing as how even state schools are struggling to stay open right now and how many hospitals and clinics have actually closed. But thats more variable data id have to go find and for you to dismiss on sight. So id just rather remain lazy atm. And if you want to proclaim "Hypocrisy" at that, i actually click the links you post and analyze the graphs you post. So you cant quite call any of that.)
Still scouring the last few pages of this thread for altima being hypocritical. I say he hides it well behind sarcasm and fallacies that its a little hard to "tell".
it was 4 D to 3 R with 1 3
http://www.politico.com/2014-election/results/map/senate/louisiana/#.VKR1jivF-QE
By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 16:19:43
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also. Pretty sure mine isnt an opinion, i would just have to scour the internet for losses in funding in sectors that arent related to the manufacture and distribution of oil (Of which there are many, seeing as how even state schools are struggling to stay open right now and how many hospitals and clinics have actually closed. But thats more variable data id have to go find and for you to dismiss on sight. So id just rather remain lazy atm. And if you want to proclaim "Hypocrisy" at that, i actually click the links you post and analyze the graphs you post. So you cant quite call any of that.)
Still scouring the last few pages of this thread for altima being hypocritical. I say he hides it well behind sarcasm and fallacies that its a little hard to "tell".
So in your opinion, your opinion isn't opinion.. cute.
Keep scouring, I'm not even gonna limit it to this thread use the whole damn P&R section. Unlike the hypocritical liberal posters on this site I'm aware of all the positions I take and opinions I give. Hell, I'll even give you a hint to make your search easier still! Click on my name and just start reading every post I've ever made.. If you're lucky you might find something from a few years ago or more that my opinion has changed on and then you will have me! I doubt it though my opinion doesn't change often and when it does its not in the hypocritical way.
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By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 16:25:29
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also. Pretty sure mine isnt an opinion, i would just have to scour the internet for losses in funding in sectors that arent related to the manufacture and distribution of oil (Of which there are many, seeing as how even state schools are struggling to stay open right now and how many hospitals and clinics have actually closed. But thats more variable data id have to go find and for you to dismiss on sight. So id just rather remain lazy atm. And if you want to proclaim "Hypocrisy" at that, i actually click the links you post and analyze the graphs you post. So you cant quite call any of that.)
Still scouring the last few pages of this thread for altima being hypocritical. I say he hides it well behind sarcasm and fallacies that its a little hard to "tell".
So in your opinion, your opinion isn't opinion.. cute.
Keep scouring, I'm not even gonna limit it to this thread use the whole damn P&R section. Unlike the hypocritical liberal posters on this site I'm aware of all the positions I take and opinions I give. Ive personally called you on a few of your hypocrisy posts in other threads. I know about those.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-31 16:25:45
I love it, you yell "hypocrite" like a kid with Tourette syndrome, I point out an example, and I get the flippant response back. I have such a big smile on my face right now.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 16:26:26
I stand corrected. 1 Republican and 3 liberal/democrats weren't considered a huge priority in the reporting during election day, so they were not included, as they were not really going to get elected at all.
Point still stands, LA laws are LA laws, and have been like this for many years. No point in bitching about it when it isn't advantageous to you in one election.
By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 16:29:50
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also. Pretty sure mine isnt an opinion, i would just have to scour the internet for losses in funding in sectors that arent related to the manufacture and distribution of oil (Of which there are many, seeing as how even state schools are struggling to stay open right now and how many hospitals and clinics have actually closed. But thats more variable data id have to go find and for you to dismiss on sight. So id just rather remain lazy atm. And if you want to proclaim "Hypocrisy" at that, i actually click the links you post and analyze the graphs you post. So you cant quite call any of that.)
Still scouring the last few pages of this thread for altima being hypocritical. I say he hides it well behind sarcasm and fallacies that its a little hard to "tell".
So in your opinion, your opinion isn't opinion.. cute.
Keep scouring, I'm not even gonna limit it to this thread use the whole damn P&R section. Unlike the hypocritical liberal posters on this site I'm aware of all the positions I take and opinions I give. Ive personally called you on a few of your hypocrisy posts in other threads. I know about those.
Now your just posting pure B.S. post them. Just don't say "Oh well I know I've done it in the past" That's a horrible cop out lie.
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By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 16:51:45
I could provide sources where mary landrieu won the election on the first run if louisiana didnt have this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE 50% or runoff nonsense... How many liberals/democrats were running in that race vs. how many Republicans? Oh, I guess that's allowed if there's only one liberal/democrat running vs. 2 or more Republicans that may split the vote around.
Never mind that most states only have 1 Republican vs. 1 liberal/democrat vs. 1 "Other Party" vs. 1 "Different Party" vs. 1 "Independent" rule. I guess that doesn't matter to you if a state's laws are different from your state, as long as you get your way...
Could even quantify the damage Jindal has done to Louisiana since he got elected. I could quantify all the damage Obama has done to each individual state since he got elected also, but I'm sure you would dismiss that as an opinion, like yours would be dismissed also. Pretty sure mine isnt an opinion, i would just have to scour the internet for losses in funding in sectors that arent related to the manufacture and distribution of oil (Of which there are many, seeing as how even state schools are struggling to stay open right now and how many hospitals and clinics have actually closed. But thats more variable data id have to go find and for you to dismiss on sight. So id just rather remain lazy atm. And if you want to proclaim "Hypocrisy" at that, i actually click the links you post and analyze the graphs you post. So you cant quite call any of that.)
Still scouring the last few pages of this thread for altima being hypocritical. I say he hides it well behind sarcasm and fallacies that its a little hard to "tell".
So in your opinion, your opinion isn't opinion.. cute.
Keep scouring, I'm not even gonna limit it to this thread use the whole damn P&R section. Unlike the hypocritical liberal posters on this site I'm aware of all the positions I take and opinions I give. Ive personally called you on a few of your hypocrisy posts in other threads. I know about those.
Now your just posting pure B.S. post them. Just don't say "Oh well I know I've done it in the past" That's a horrible cop out lie.
Good ole P&R, Jet never backing up his mouth and Pleebo being Pleebo..
What exactly am I "trying"? They can still ultimately be responsible but the supposed links seem flimsy. I'm awaiting more specific information.

This is contextually hypocritical. Please hold, still sifting.
behaviorally hypocritical.
The left side of the forum seems to have backed themselves into a corner stall. All they got left is insults yet again. Guess everyone's spelling and grammar have been up to par so far.
You make alot of posts :/
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 17:00:45
How again is that hypocritical on Altima's part again?
He showed Pleebo being hypocritical in his posts (yet again). Is it hypocritical to point out hypocrisy? If you think so, then aren't you, in fact, a hypocrite for pointing out Altima pointing out Pleebo's hypocrisy?
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 17:02:47
How again is that hypocritical on Altima's part again?
He showed Pleebo being hypocritical in his posts (yet again). Is it hypocritical to point out hypocrisy? If you think so, then aren't you, in fact, a hypocrite for pointing out Altima pointing out Pleebo's hypocrisy?
hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
synonyms: dissimulation, false virtue, cant, posturing, affectation, speciousness, empty talk, insincerity, falseness, deceit, dishonesty, mendacity, pretense, duplicity; More
Youre using a strawman :(
pretty sure i saw some reason for that first one to be contextually hypocritical. second one is hypocritical because he literally does what we say we do, but claims the higher ground since we are "liberals".
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-31 17:03:16
He showed Pleebo being hypocritical in his posts (yet again) What exactly is the hypocrisy there?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-31 17:04:39
How again is it pretense to show how hypocritical a person is? There are no moral standards or beliefs being shown by the accuser but by the accused.
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By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 17:09:02
Its gonna be a long night for you Enuyasha.
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 17:10:20
Its gonna be a long night for you Enuyasha. it is...thats sorta why i gave up after finding those two.
Edit: not that those two are the ONLY two i could find, i just had to sift through pages of threads and got really uninterested really fast.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-31 17:10:53
The left side of the forum seems to have backed themselves into a corner stall. All they got left is insults yet again. Guess everyone's spelling and grammar have been up to par so far. This is actually a fairly representative sample.
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By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 17:19:47
The left side of the forum seems to have backed themselves into a corner stall. All they got left is insults yet again. Guess everyone's spelling and grammar have been up to par so far. This is actually a fairly representative sample.
Except that it accurately defines the left side of the forum. So it is not hypocritical. Its gonna be a long night for you Enuyasha. it is...thats sorta why i gave up after finding those two.
Edit: not that those two are the ONLY two i could find, i just had to sift through pages of threads and got really uninterested really fast.
You didn't find anything actually hypocritical only things that point out how hypocritical the left side of this forum is.
So I guess in your mind and in the mind of every liberal on this site.
You could keep looking if you like, but after looking though a lot of my posts we both know you are not gonna find anything.
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 17:22:04
The left side of the forum seems to have backed themselves into a corner stall. All they got left is insults yet again. Guess everyone's spelling and grammar have been up to par so far. This is actually a fairly representative sample.
Except that it accurately defines the left side of the forum. So it is not hypocritical. Its gonna be a long night for you Enuyasha. it is...thats sorta why i gave up after finding those two.
Edit: not that those two are the ONLY two i could find, i just had to sift through pages of threads and got really uninterested really fast.
You didn't find anything actually hypocritical only things that point out how hypocritical the left side of this forum is.
So I guess in your mind and in the mind of every liberal on this site.
 Im sure that i could find things using the actual definition of hypocrisy. Which is the criteria i used to find those two.
Like, the actual meaning of hypocrisy.
Also, your representation of the left leaning posters on this particular forum is an opinon, which youve berated me about how i think my so called opinion isnt an opinion on this page.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-31 17:23:20
> was trying to define Jassiks type of word usage. Couldnt decide whether he was belittling him or condescending. He mightve been doing both.
I wasn't specifically trying to do either... call it forcefully dismissive.
Quote: ZOMG, you totally got him! Except, he's didn't say anything about being a partisan hack. At least fone is occasionally funny with his non-sequiturs...
Congrats, at least mine was an oversight from Android Swype, not an incredibly loose grasp of English.
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 17:24:17
> was trying to define Jassiks type of word usage. Couldnt decide whether he was belittling him or condescending. He mightve been doing both.
I wasn't specifically trying to do either... call it forcefully dismissive.
ZOMG, you totally got him! Except, he's didn't say anything about being a partisan hack. At least fone is occasionally funny with his non-sequiturs...
Congrats, at least mine was an oversight from Android Swype, not an incredibly loose grasp of English. OH, i read it that way. Oh well.
derp: why did it not quote?
By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 17:24:49
The left side of the forum seems to have backed themselves into a corner stall. All they got left is insults yet again. Guess everyone's spelling and grammar have been up to par so far. This is actually a fairly representative sample.
Except that it accurately defines the left side of the forum. So it is not hypocritical. Its gonna be a long night for you Enuyasha. it is...thats sorta why i gave up after finding those two.
Edit: not that those two are the ONLY two i could find, i just had to sift through pages of threads and got really uninterested really fast.
You didn't find anything actually hypocritical only things that point out how hypocritical the left side of this forum is.
So I guess in your mind and in the mind of every liberal on this site.
 Im sure that i could find things using the actual definition of hypocrisy. Which is the criteria i used to find those two.
Like, the actual meaning of hypocrisy.
If you're so sure just do it and stop giving wrong examples.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-31 17:26:52
Except that it accurately defines the left side of the forum. So it is not hypocritical. You are not exempt from said definition. Ergo, hypocrisy. Ta-dah!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-31 17:28:54
> was trying to define Jassiks type of word usage. Couldnt decide whether he was belittling him or condescending. He mightve been doing both.
I wasn't specifically trying to do either... call it forcefully dismissive.
ZOMG, you totally got him! Except, he's didn't say anything about being a partisan hack. At least fone is occasionally funny with his non-sequiturs...
Congrats, at least mine was an oversight from Android Swype, not an incredibly loose grasp of English. OH, i read it that way. Oh well.
derp: why did it not quote?
My mistake, bud.
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By Altimaomega 2014-12-31 17:39:00
See everyone does know what being a hypocrite means. It only took challenging someone to find mine "OMG I pointed out SPELLING!" for them to realize it. The fact of the matter is you people are hypocritical on far more things than just pointing out spelling and grammar mistakes. Which is the stupidest thing ever to do on an internet forum.
So from now on when I call you liberals a hypocrite I expect you all to not play the "That's not being a hypocrite" card. Because now you have confessed that you do actually understand what it means.
By Enuyasha 2014-12-31 17:42:24
See everyone does know what being a hypocrite means. It only took challenging someone to find mine "OMG I pointed out SPELLING!" for them to realize it. The fact of the matter is you people are hypocritical on far more things than just pointing out spelling and grammar mistakes. Which is the stupidest thing ever to do on an internet forum.
So from now on when I call you liberals a hypocrite I expect you all to not play the "That's not being a hypocrite" card. Because now you have confessed that you do actually understand what it means. We understand what it means, its you who doesnt.
We sit here every thread and have this same conversation :(
Obama threatens to veto bills passed by Congress, now that he can't use Reid to stop bills in the Senate
Quote: Warning from President Barack Obama to congressional Republicans: I have a veto pen and, come January, I won't be afraid to use it.
Since taking office in 2009, Obama has only vetoed legislation twice, both in fairly minor circumstances. But with Republicans set to take full control of Congress next year, Obama is losing his last bulwark against a barrage of bills he doesn't like: the Senate.
"I haven't used the veto pen very often since I've been in office," Obama said in an NPR interview airing Monday. "Now, I suspect, there are going to be some times where I've got to pull that pen out."
He added: "I'm going to defend gains that we've made in health care. I'm going to defend gains that we've made on environment and clean air and clean water."
Obama's notice to the GOP came as he sought to set the tone for a year in which Congress and the president are on a near-certain collision course. Buoyed by decisive gains in last month's midterm elections, Republicans are itching to use their newfound Senate majority to derail Obama's plans on immigration, climate change and health care, to name a few.
To overturn Obama's veto, Republicans would need the votes of two-thirds of the House and Senate. Their majorities in both chambers are not that large, so they would still need to persuade some Democrats to defy the president.
But Obama said he was hopeful that at least on some issues, that won't be necessary, because there's overlap between his interests and those of congressional Republicans. On that point, at least, he's in agreement with incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
"Bipartisan jobs bills will see the light of day and will make it to the President's desk, and he'll have to make decisions about ideology versus creating jobs for the middle class," McConnell said in response to Obama's comments. "There's a lot we can get done together if the president puts his famous pen to use signing bills rather than vetoing legislation his liberal allies don't like."
Potential areas for cooperation include tax reform and global trade deals — both issues where Obama and Republicans see at least partially eye to eye. Conversely, the likeliest points of friction surround Environmental Protection Agency regulations, the Keystone XL pipeline and Obama's unilateral steps on immigration, which let millions of people in the U.S. illegally avoid deportation and get work permits.
In the interview, recorded before Obama left Washington earlier this month for his annual Hawaii vacation, Obama also offered his most specific diagnosis to date of why Democrats fared so poorly in the midterms. He said he was "obviously frustrated" with the results.
"I think we had a great record for members of Congress to run on and I don't think we — myself and the Democratic Party — made as good of a case as we should have," Obama said. "And you know, as a consequence, we had really low voter turnout, and the results were bad."
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